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    Default Sylph player character?

    I'm trying to work out the LA of a sylph using the savage species system but I've hit a snag

    I can't figure out the ability adjustments for a Sylph from the MMII
    the stats are Str 8, Dex 13, Con 8, Int 15, Wis 16, Cha 17, but I can't figure out what the bases were (and thus the adjustments)
    if someone could figure out the adjustments (or possibly tell/show me how to do it that would be great)

    here's what I have figured out so far in addition
    sylph
    Feature LA
    ability scores ??
    Size -1 (small size)
    NAB --
    Speed +2 (fly, good or better)
    Natural weapons --
    Reach --
    skills and feats --
    spell like abilities +2 (casts as sorcerer higher than HD and has a spell like ability that a character equivalent to CR 5 couldn't cast)

    so, so far it's LA+3 if I'm right, +1 if the stats are superior to normal.
    sylphs also have 3 fey hit die, so do I assume I add this to the total making +7? (or +6 depending)
    am I right in arriving at this conclusion?

    thanks for any help
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    Default Re: Sylph player character?

    The stats are:
    -2 Str, +2 Dex, -2 Con, +4 Int, +6 Wis, +6 Cha.

    They are derived by reducing the stat score by ten, and then if it's not an even number, reduce one.
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    Default Re: Sylph player character?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeggedoff View Post
    so, so far it's LA+3 if I'm right, +1 if the stats are superior to normal.
    It's pretty similar to Pixie, which is a +4.

    sylphs also have 3 fey hit die, so do I assume I add this to the total making +7? (or +6 depending)
    am I right in arriving at this conclusion?

    thanks for any help
    No, you don't add racial HD to LA, but anyone taking the race would need to have the 3 racial HD as part of their ECL.
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    Default Re: Sylph player character?

    Monsters always use the 11, 11, 11, 10, 10, 10 array. Your sylph's stat adjusts are Str -2, Dex +2, Con -2, Int +4, Wis +6, Cha +6, for a total modifier of +14.

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    ah, marvelous. Thanks for all of your help :)
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    Officially, a Sylph has LA +5.
    This can be found in page 10 of the Monster Manual II update to 3.5 pdf document, which can be found on the wizards site here:
    http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/20030718a

    Naturally, that may not stop you from deriving LA as per Savage Species, just putting it here so you know.
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    Default Re: Sylph player character?

    while awesome (because my DM uses official errata over the books) that's horrible crushing because it requires and extra level :)

    thanks for bringing it to my attention, it fills up an extra level I had in my proposed build anyway
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