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    Default Chameleon for other types of magic

    Ok, if Chameleons had aspects for other types of magic, what would they look like?

    Martial maneuvers?
    Psionics?
    Incarnum?
    True naming?
    Binding?
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    Default Re: Chameleon for other types of magic

    A quick fix at least for truenaming and binding would be to use the bonus feat to pick up "Bind Vestige" or "Minor Utterance", but you'd have to find a way to get 6 ranks of truename skill.

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    A Red Mage version on the wizards boards added a psionic focus: http://forums.gleemax.com/wotc_archi...x.php/t-778804. I seem to remember someone there or here adding a martial focus that granted more maneuvers than you'd get with just a martial study feat.
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    Factotum with the truenameing skill into Chameleon would solve the problems with taking Minor Utterance.
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    Default Re: Chameleon for other types of magic

    Here's a snapshot of my base class Chameleon's maneuver progression from 6-15, slightly modified for use with the 10-level PrC:

    {table=head]Level|Maneuvers Known|Maneuvers Readied|Stances Known
    1|7|4|1
    2|7|4|1
    3|8|4|2
    4|9|4|2
    5|9|5|2
    6|10|5|3
    7|11|5|3
    8|11|5|3
    9|12|5|3
    10|13|6|4[/table]

    Pretty poor progression, huh? Well, he has access to every discipline, so... poor progression it is.



    EDIT: I don't think you should give psionics to the Chameleon. Chameleons do not gain any kind of innate supernatural powers from the class; everything they do is a learned skill. I'm pretty sure that all psionic abilities depend on an innate power (much like a Sorcerer's magic), but I don't know everything about psionics. Can anyone find a source contradicting this? I'd kind of like to put psionics into the Chameleon, but part of the class's theme is that you've only learned to use these abilities; you haven't been born with a wide variety of magical gifts or anything like that.
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    • Chameleon Base Class [3.5]/[PF]: A versatile, morphic class that mimics one basic party role (warrior, caster, sneak, etc) at a time. If you find yourself getting bored of any class you play too long, the Chameleon is for you!
    • Warlock Power Sources [3.5]: Making Hellfire Warlock part of the base class and providing other similar options for Warlocks whose powers don't come from devils.

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