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2008-11-05, 04:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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[3.5] Any good prestige classes for a Conjurer?
So, i'll start Expedition to Castle Greyhawk. We'll start at lvl 9, and I'm creating a Conjurer.
Anyway, I'm looking for prestige classes. So far, I'm stuck with the Alienist or the Master Specialist. Any suggestions?
PS. Also, if you can recommend me some good spells for a "summoner" type, besides those found in the Complete Mage book, please let me know...Sneaky lying worshipper of Lord of the Seventh and proud member of the Baatezu Lovers Club! Why don't you join?
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2008-11-05, 04:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Any good prestige classes for a Conjurer?
Malconvoker is pretty awesome. Of those two, better choice is Master Specialist, IMHO.
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2008-11-05, 04:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Any good prestige classes for a Conjurer?
Oh, how little love there is for a Summoner. I don't have many books (just the first four Completes beyond core), and the only thing I've found is Alienist. It almost seems like the best way to play a summoner is to be a Cleric. At least then you have Thaumaturgist as another option. I'd love to see what the playgrounders come up with.
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2008-11-05, 04:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Any good prestige classes for a Conjurer?
Alienists sucks. Go Master Specialist or Malconvoker
EDIT: Also, check here and you might get some ideasLast edited by Random NPC; 2008-11-05 at 04:52 PM.
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2008-11-05, 05:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Any good prestige classes for a Conjurer?
I'm going to quote a friend (Roger by name) who gave me some truly excellent advice by email when I asked a similar question:
Originally Posted by Roger
I also recommend checking out the three best wizard guides ever (with a nod to our own LogicNinja for what I view as the best one):
The Logic Ninja's Guide to Wizards: Being Batman: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18500
Conjurer's Guide: http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=918686
Treantmonk's Guide to Wizards: Being a God: http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=956548
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2008-11-05, 07:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Any good prestige classes for a Conjurer?
Its actually not too hard to get into any of the other straight casting PrCs either. Divine Oracle2/Loremaster3-5 is a pretty good investment of 5-7 levels, netting you "evasion", and your choice of bonus to hit, bonus to fort saves, or a couple of other things after you nab the free feat to make up for the loss of Skill Focus:Knowledge Religion needed to get into both PrCs.
Initiate of the 7fold Veils is also reachable if you don't ban Abjuration. Not super easy, but doable.
Fatespinner is likewise a decent 4 level investment, costing you 0 feats, only a couple skill points. The reroll can save lives, and the fate points are handy when you REALLY want to Finger of Death someone to death.
1 level dip in Mindbender is also not bad. Getting SU telepathy has numerous uses, the least of which is the qualification to take the feat Mindsight from Lords of Madness that allows you to see inteligent beings as light sources.
Archmage 2-3 can be a decent investment, although this comes late in progression.
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2008-11-05, 07:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Any good prestige classes for a Conjurer?
I'm going to forty-second Malconvoker. Too awesome not to play.
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2008-11-05, 07:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Any good prestige classes for a Conjurer?
Malconvoker is definitely awesome fun.
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2008-11-05, 07:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Any good prestige classes for a Conjurer?
I'd go Wizard 3/ Master Specialist 3/ Mindbender 1/ Thaumaturgist 5/ Malconvoker, using Arcane Disciple (CD) to get Lesser Planar Ally. Make Evocation and Enchantment prohibited, maybe even go Focused Specialist (CM) and also ban Necromancy. For Arcane Disciple pick the Lust domain to still be able to get Charm Person for Mindbender. You'll be able to telepathically order your summoned minions around, so no need to worry about language barriers. Get the feat Mindsight (LoM) if possible, it gives you something similar Blindsense with regards to anything that has an Int score out to the range of your Telepathy, which also automatically reveals their creature type and Int score.
Use either the PHB2 Wizard variant to trade your Familiar for an unbeatable you-can't-hit-me ability a few times/day, or the Rapid Summoning variant from UA. Since both of those require you to give up your familiar, see if you can get the feat Obtain Familiar, giving up two familiars to get both of those. I'd also go for the Fighter feat Wizard variant from UA, to get something like Improved Initiative in place of Scribe Scroll.
When you get your Planar Cohort pick a Ghaele Eladrin, it will be more powerful than anyone else in the party for quite a few levels. Use Orb spells, Acid Breath, Web, Glitterdust, Black Tentacles, and Cloud effects for offense along with Summon Monsters. The Summon Undead spells (LM, HoH, SC) are also quite nice for some extra meat shield zombies or nasty full-attacker skeletons, usually best when you summon multiple creatures from a lower-level list such as Owlbear Skeletons or Ogre Zombies.
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2008-11-05, 08:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Any good prestige classes for a Conjurer?
I'm surprised no one has suggested Incantatrix...
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2008-11-05, 08:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Any good prestige classes for a Conjurer?
Archmage isn't a bad choice for most wizards.
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2008-11-05, 09:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Any good prestige classes for a Conjurer?
Malconvoker. Always Malconvoker.
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2008-11-06, 05:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Any good prestige classes for a Conjurer?
Thank you all! and specially thanks to Swiftest that guide will be very, very useful on today's D&D session.
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2008-11-07, 06:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Any good prestige classes for a Conjurer?
The build mentioned above that uses arcane disciple to get into both thaumaturgist and malconvoker is probably the one i would go for. Dunno if i personally would go master specialist, I usually dont like ditching schools.
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sorry, i had to :) dont know if its rules legal (can summons be occularized?) but it sure would be funny :)