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    Ogre in the Playground
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    Welcome to Diplomacy: Subterfuge!

    It is the end of the 19th century, and the leaders have gone into seclusion. From their secret headquarters messeges fly, but nobody can be sure of who is saying what. Only the most clever will be able to determine who is who without revealing their own identity. But watch out for pretenders...those with their own agendas who hope to disrupt any alliances that might somehow be forged.

    The rules of this game are simple. Aside from ensuring the proper orders are submitted to me, there are no rules. You can say what you want to whoever you want, and you can post any comments you wish to the main thread. I strongly advise you don't give away which country you are without carefull consideration, as that can give other players an advantage over you.

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    Ogre in the Playground
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    I'm here and ready to go.

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    Check. I'm ready to start.

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    Checking in for command.
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    Here 'guv and ready to play

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    I do say I am quite present and ready to begin my march to victory.
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    Bugbear in the Playground
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    Hmm. I've never played France before.

    England, what say you about the demilitarization of the Channel?

    Also, this headline just in from Zurich:

    Standoff Expected in Black Sea
    Rumanian Separatists Revolt;
    Russian Influence Suspected;
    Obstinate Sultan Condemns Interference
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    Ogre in the Playground
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    Hmm, looks like we're just waiting for the Tunisians and/or the Portuguese to check in and we're ready to go.
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    Ready to go sir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalirren View Post
    Hmm. I've never played France before.

    England, what say you about the demilitarization of the Channel?
    Uh-huh, and I suppose you'll also want me to stay out of the mid-Atlantic and the North Sea too? I don't think so. Belgium and Holland are our sworn friends. The crown may not be able to save the Spanish from your greedy fingers, but Belgium and Holland will never be yours. Even if it mean stationing our own troops there to defend them. Even if it means giving Denmark to Germany for appeasement.
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    Ogre in the Playground
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    Alrighty, looks like we're ready to go, and some of you have gotten started. Excellent!

    I want to go at a fairly brisk pace, so I'll set the first orders due Thursday, Nov 13th, at 23:00 est. After that, seasons will be 3 days (i.e. Fall 1901 orders will be due Sunday night) and build turns 24 hours.

    Any questions or concerns with these times?
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    I'd point out that the earliest either of you could make a move on either belgium or holland would be spring of next year, but that france would be unable to reach holland if england should decide to take it.

    Incidentally, unless you plan to convoy your forces England, I suggest you send an army to ocupy the south, you have an exposed flank there.

    France, you might want to pay atention to Burgandy, unless you have no problems with the Germans, it is an area of weakness.

    Ladies, Gentlemen, the clock is in fact ticking.
    Last edited by Aergoth; 2008-11-09 at 03:49 PM.

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    ...what? that's not true. A Par->Bur->Bel would be F01. So would F Bre->Pic/Eng-> Bel, but that would mean I would have to do something silly with the fleet at Brest. Much rather stick my grubby, smelly, fatty French fingers into Iberia.

    Which is why I asked for the English Channel DMZ in the first place, England: but if you want to -force- me to send my fleet to the Channel I may have no choice but to oblige you. Are you telling me that you would rather risk the time lost and encourage the Czarina's ambitions in Scandinavia?

    I really don't know what you're talking about, Aergoth. You must be Turkey. Only Turkey can get away with that degree of not making sense.
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    And I don't know what you guys are doing pretending to be France and England. It turns out I'm both of them, actually. I'm also Italy, Germany, Austria, Russia, and Turkey.
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    Checking in! Just got back from Tacoma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moody the Wise View Post
    And I don't know what you guys are doing pretending to be France and England. It turns out I'm both of them, actually. I'm also Italy, Germany, Austria, Russia, and Turkey.
    Strange, considering all of you (excepting Moody) are masquerading as false nations.

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    How on earth could I be turkey when moody has claimed to be Turkey?
    Honestly though, Tunasia is MINE! Don't even try taking it.
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    The seizing of Sweden by the Czar, while regrettable, is also inevitable unless the Germans choose to make an intervention. I can do nothing there.

    Norway is England's, as assuredly as Spain could be France's.

    Now, if a demilitarization was to occur at the strait, would that leave us equal? No. The crown might gain control of Denmark, Holland, or Belgium, but France would certainly wreck bloody havoc on Portugal, and further would be able to fend off the Germans as well as possibly taking our Belgium friends as ill-gotten war-spoils. Plainly, the French benefits of a DMZ are vastly greater than English benefits, and therefore not in the crowns best interest. Unless, the French have concessions they wish to offer...
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    The Germans welcome all treaties with our glorious nation.
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    Or you could help me crush the french blight between the jaws of a mighty vicegrip?

    Also, we grieve for the nation of Holand as it is soon to be subsumed by the germans.

    The indpendant nation of Italy recognizes the leader of Germany, and offers him this: Stay away from us!
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    To whom it may concern:

    My master, the glorious Sultan of Turkey, wishes to speak with the Tsar of Russia. If you believe this to be your identity, please contact my liege at once through private channels, where we may continue our negotiations in earnest.
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    The nation of Italy is displeased with the diplomatic overtures of Turkey towards Russia and demands their immediate cessation!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aergoth View Post
    The nation of Italy is displeased with the diplomatic overtures of Turkey towards Russia and demands their immediate cessation!
    The nation of Italy demands nothing ... go back to your gelato.
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    Italy will ally with anyone that will promise us the extinction of the Russian menace!
    Incidentally, gelato is very good. It is a shame you do not have much in Turkey. We will have to introduce it in greater force when we subjugate you.
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    Don't be mean to the russians! Besides, we need your help to kill france while I'll take them down with my mighty english fleet.
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    You know, I've completely lost track of who's claiming to be whom now.

    I do believe that if Turkey and Russia -do- successfully enter negotiations, it is highly likely that England will have to fight to keep Norway in the second year, judging from the difficulty of negotiations so far.

    Also, I count 8 people who have checked in. Someone really -is- playing Switzerland.
    Of the Core classes, Bard is the best. It optimizes the most important resource of them all: play time.

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    Thus we have a false leader in our midst. (Or else someone dropped out.)

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    Well, we do have a Universal President Elect amount us, ready to rescue any abandoned country from anarchy. I suppose that might count as a false leader. Anyone claiming to be this exiled leader?
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    We apparently have the portugese/tunasians with us.
    So, as it stands
    Italy: ME!
    "England": Psionic Dog
    "France": Kailirren
    "Turkey" Moody
    "Germany" Jamin
    "Russia" Sirek Inta
    That leaves Austria and this portugese nation, that I don't remember seeing.
    We have... Nerftren and Daniel M Therefore, assuming all of the mentioned nations are covered (not necessarilly by the parties mentioned) Nerftren and Daniel M are Austria and/or Portugal/Tunisia

    The duly elected representative of the independant nation of Italy frowns on the false leader of Portugal and demands to know where this country is located, and what lands it claims.
    Last edited by Aergoth; 2008-11-10 at 05:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aergoth View Post
    We apparently have the portugese/tunasians with us.
    So, as it stands
    Italy: ME!
    "England": Psionic Dog
    "France": Kailirren
    "Turkey" Moody
    "Germany" Jamin
    "Russia" Sirek Inta
    That leaves Austria and this portugese nation, that I don't remember seeing.
    We have... Nerftren and Daniel M Therefore, assuming all of the mentioned nations are covered (not necessarilly by the parties mentioned) Nerftren and Daniel M are Austria and/or Portugal/Tunisia

    The duly elected representative of the independant nation of Italy frowns on the false leader of Portugal and demands to know where this country is located, and what lands it claims.
    I can tell you that one of those nations above is lying, because I am one of the primary seven nations.

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