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    Ettin in the Playground
     
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    Default Immunity to Fear and being Lawful

    Has anyone else noticed that Immunity to Fear (at least as a class feature or other permanent non-magical effect) appears to be the sole property of those of Lawful alignment?

    Sure you can blanket effect immunity to mind-affecting with the Undead or Construct type or gain bonuses against fear or gain specific immunity/bonuses (like against a dragons Frightful Presence) and not be Lawful, but I can't seem to be able to find a non-lawful Immunity to Fear.

    Does anyone know of a way to gain Immunity to Fear and not be Lawful (at any stage)?

    edit: I only want Immunity to Fear by the way. Immunity to Mind-affecting is an option, but it's one I'll only take if there's no other way....
    Last edited by JellyPooga; 2008-11-30 at 10:15 AM.
    I apologise if I come across daft. I'm a bit like that. I also like a good argument, so please don't take offence if I'm somewhat...forthright.

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    Default Re: Immunity to Fear and being Lawful

    Can't help you with finding non-lawful immunity to fear, but I can tell you that it's one of the game's sacred cows. Back in 2e when I started playing, lawful NPCs got bonuses to morale checks while chaotic NPCs got penalties. The idea was that lawful personalities believe in something beyond their personal welfare and are therefore more likely to commit to a fight even in the face of imminent death.

    Unless your DM buys into that load, you could simply ask him to house rule away the lawful requirement of your favored method of gaining fear immunity.

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    Well, the Non-lawful only Bard gets inspire courage, which is conceptually similar, and gives bonuses against fear.

    (Also, what are your available sources...)

    Greater Heroism Spells.
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    Default Re: Immunity to Fear and being Lawful

    Holy Liberator in Complete Warrior is immune to [Compulsion] and fear at level 3, I do believe. Requires a Chaotic Good alignment.

    There are probably a couple of Dragon related features that grant immunity to fear. I'll take a look in Dragon Magic in a sec, but I don't have Races of the Dragon or the Draconomicon.
    EDIT: Nope, only Dragonfire Adept4 gives you immunity to the Frightening Presence of dragons, no total immunity though.

    Occult Slayer and Illithid Slayer both gain complete immunity to [Mind Affecting] which would include all fear effects.

    Not a class features, but Hero's Feast grants total immunity to fear effects for 12 hours. 6th level Cleric spell, but availabile by other means (such as Cornicopia of the Needful (Yollonda Relic).
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    AILHAY THULUCAY! AILHAY THULUCAY! AILHAY THULUCAY!
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    Default Re: Immunity to Fear and being Lawful

    Leviathan Hunter from Stormwrack. Immunity to Fear as the 5th level capstone ability. (The class is awesome, by the way.)

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    Default Re: Immunity to Fear and being Lawful

    Quote Originally Posted by Keld Denar View Post
    Holy Liberator in Complete Warrior is immune to [Compulsion] and fear at level 3, I do believe. Requires a Chaotic Good alignment.
    No immunity to fear, just Compulsion (IIRC)

    There are probably a couple of Dragon related features that grant immunity to fear. I'll take a look in Dragon Magic in a sec, but I don't have Races of the Dragon or the Draconomicon.
    I unfortunately don't have Dragon Mag access and the only immunity to feat RotD an Draconomnicon give are vs Frightful Presence.

    Occult Slayer and Illithid Slayer both gain complete immunity to [Mind Affecting] which would include all fear effects.
    yeah, Occult Slayer is my back-up blanket Immunity to Mind-Affecting, but as I say...it's back up
    I apologise if I come across daft. I'm a bit like that. I also like a good argument, so please don't take offence if I'm somewhat...forthright.

    Please be aware; when it comes to 5ed D&D, I own Core (1st printing) and SCAG only. All my opinions and rulings are based solely on those, unless otherwise stated. I reserve the right of ignorance of errata or any other source.

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    Default Re: Immunity to Fear and being Lawful

    ...Quick Search on crystalkeep comes up

    Black flame zealot, PrC, Complete Divine.
    Hammer of Moradin, PrC, Players Guide to Faerun
    Lion of Talsid, PrC, Book of Exalted Deeds
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    Quote Originally Posted by JellyPooga View Post
    I unfortunately don't have Dragon Mag access and the only immunity to feat RotD an Draconomnicon give are vs Frightful Presence.
    Not the Dragon Magazines, the book, Dragon Magic. And no, there really isn't anything in there.
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    AILHAY THULUCAY! AILHAY THULUCAY! AILHAY THULUCAY!
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    A beholder’s favorite foods include small live mammals, exotic mushrooms and other fungi, gnomes, beef, pork, colorful leafy vegetables, leaves, flower petals, insects, and birds.

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    Default Re: Immunity to Fear and being Lawful

    Possessing the Dream domain gives you Immunity to Fear.
    There is the feat Fearless.

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    Dragonslayer 1...

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    ...If you need immunity to being lawful, there's always protection from law...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keld Denar View Post
    Holy Liberator in Complete Warrior is immune to [Compulsion] and fear at level 3, I do believe. Requires a Chaotic Good alignment.
    Actually that's in Complete Divine IIRC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vael View Post
    Possessing the Dream domain gives you Immunity to Fear.
    There is the feat Fearless.
    You can pick up any Domain ability with the Planar Touchstone feat, linking to the Catalogues of Enlightenment. Requires 8 ranks of Knowledge: the Planes, though.

    Undead are also usually immune to fear. Necropolitan template might work? Also, Lolth-Touched template grants immunity to fear... only +1 LA.

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    Default Re: Immunity to Fear and being Lawful

    A 6th level binder is immune to fear as long as he has a vestige bound at the time. With Improved Binding, you can bind Agares at 5th level, One of his granted powers is an immunity to fear. With Binders, you need only be lawful if you're going into KotSS PrC

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    While I can understand why lawful class ideas might be more likely to produce fear immunity (cold, calculating, distant) I don't think that it ought to be a monopoly.
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    Default Re: Immunity to Fear and being Lawful

    Quote Originally Posted by jcsw View Post
    Lion of Talsid, PrC, Book of Exalted Deeds
    This happens to be my very favorite PrC. You can find it here: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20031004b

    You have to be Nuetral good to enter, and you have to have an animal companion as a class feature, and be able to cast summon nature's ally II, so druid or ranger unless you can find some other way to get those. But it give you this at level 1:

    Quote Originally Posted by srd
    Lion's Courage (Ex): A lion of Talisid is immune to fear (magical or otherwise) and gains a +4 sacred bonus on Will saves against other mind-affecting spells and effects.
    Plus full spellcasting, 3/4 BAB, good fort and will, haste 1 round per class level per day, a holy word-like Su ability, scent, POUNCE, and improves your animal companion. Come to think of it, it's probably just a wee bit overpowered, lol. Fun though.

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