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    I just got thrown out of a 7th-level game by the DM, for refusing to heal the party's frenzied berserker right away after she critted me in her frenzy and dropped me from 60 to negatives. [I did get a potion afterward, from the party member that struck me down.] Since then, arguing has pretty much derailed the campaign. Did I do something wrong, and if so, what?

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    This is why all right-thinking DMs ban the Frenzied Berserker. And I don't think you did anything wrong, I think it was a reasonable in-character decision to not help the guy who nearly killed you, though without knowing more about how you refused, I can't be sure.
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    I'd like some more information about that. When did it happen, and when did you refuse to heal her? Was it immediately afterward? I wouldn't think it would be very easy for you to heal her if you're in the negatives! Also, was it in-character for you to refuse that?
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    Considering my character is (or was) quite the accomplished healer (a class level in Radiant Servant of Pelor, even), he's normally ready to volunteer his healing magic. Considering he nearly got killed by the woman who's now demanding healing from him, he kinda put that on hold for a minute in his rage. This is not normally in character for him, but then he usually doesn't almost get teamkilled either.

    EDIT: Apparently, the DM's going to try to continue without me, and simply let another player create a 7th (or possibly 8th; the party apparently leveled) level cleric.
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    Whatever you did, it doesn't sound like a banning offense. Yes, if you had said "I'll never heal you again" that might have been over the line, but unless you were a problem player before, I don't see why you'd get bounced.

    In any case, it might be good to just kill the campaign, start over with fresh characters, and maybe a new DM. If that doesn't work then, I'm sorry to say, it looks like you've lost a gaming group.
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    I would say that was a legitimate in-character decision. Perhaps later your character would regret it and apologize, but at that moment your thought wouldn't be "I am a servant of Pelor, it is my job to heal and aid the rightous" it would be "This Crazy B**h almost KILLED ME!"
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    I did screw up at 1st level, by not being close enough to heal the party bard before he stepped on an explosive tile that nearly killed him. I hung back, thinking the party didn't need my healing spells as they'd taken very little damage. Stupid mistake, I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikethepoor View Post
    I did screw up at 1st level, by not being close enough to heal the party bard before he stepped on an explosive tile that nearly killed him. I hung back, thinking the party didn't need my healing spells as they'd taken very little damage. Stupid mistake, I know.
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    An honest mistake, nothing to get hung up about.
    Unless you're my DM, who thinks I'm useful as a healing battery and nothing more. This belief is only reinforced by the party's main tank, the berserker that nearly killed me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRC View Post
    but at that moment your thought wouldn't be "I am a servant of Pelor, it is my job to heal and aid the rightous" it would be "This Crazy B**h almost KILLED ME!"
    I don't think even a Paladin should fall for thinking that.

    Consider it the "Fall Test." If your character is good, and he does something that a Paladin, within reason, would not fall for attempting, there is no logical reason to ban the character.

    Go ClericZilla. That might change your DM's opinions on Clerics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikethepoor View Post
    Unless you're my DM, who thinks I'm useful as a healing battery and nothing more. This belief is only reinforced by the party's main tank, the berserker that nearly killed me.
    Yeah, when your DM is telling you how to play your character, it's time to either have a chat or leave.

    Particularly if said DM is going to throw a fit when you act against his will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mando Knight View Post
    I don't think even a Paladin should fall for thinking that.

    Consider it the "Fall Test." If your character is good, and he does something that a Paladin, within reason, would not fall for attempting, there is no logical reason to ban the character.

    Go ClericZilla. That might change your DM's opinions on Clerics.
    I was actually planning on something similar, before I got thrown out.

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    You should have asked your DM who was playing your character: you or him?

    Recommended course of action: Ask the DM what he would do if you gave him a medkit as a present and some time later, beat him within an inch of death, then asked for the medkit back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flickerdart View Post
    You should have asked your DM who was playing your character: you or him?

    Recommended course of action: Ask the DM what he would do if you gave him a medkit as a present and some time later, beat him within an inch of death, then asked for the medkit back.
    I tried that line of logic. He didn't care. Supposedly I've always been an awful cleric.

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    And you're playing under this loser why?

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    And you're playing under this loser why?
    I'm not any more. He can burn in the lowest layer of the Abyss as far as I'm concerned.

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    Good - he was an idiot and a jerk, and so were your fellow players for taking advantage of your character like that. Find a new group and you'll be much better off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikethepoor View Post
    I tried that line of logic. He didn't care. Supposedly I've always been an awful cleric.
    I believe the appropriate response is to "accidentally" burn his campaign notes, and then find yourself a new gaming group.

    Seriously, this guy sounds like an 11 on the Tool-O-Meter.

    EDIT: If you can't find a group immediately, might I suggest PbP?

    We have a pretty excellent community of PbPers here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Bookworm View Post
    I believe the appropriate response is to "accidentally" burn his campaign notes, and then find yourself a new gaming group.

    Seriously, this guy sounds like an 11 on the Tool-O-Meter.

    EDIT: If you can't find a group immediately, might I suggest PbP?

    We have a pretty excellent community of PbPers here.
    He's also a rookie, and it's all online, so no notes to burn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikethepoor View Post
    He's also a rookie, and it's all online, so no notes to burn.
    Virus. Set it so it replaces his background with the symbol of Pelor, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikethepoor View Post
    so no notes to burn.
    Blast. I was hoping to recommend various acidic powders...

    Or detcord. That always works. (My university even sponsors a "Blow S#!t Up Day...)

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    (My university even sponsors a "Blow S#!t Up Day...)
    Please tell me where you go.

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    Missouri S&T, formerly known as UMR, and before that, MSM. It's an engineering university, primarily, but also has extensive science and mathematics programs, and also offers MBAs and History and English (I think) majors...

    "Blow S#!t Up" is how they spell the event on the poster...

    It's also got a FLGS that sells OotS books only a few blocks away, and a fencing club.
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    Thanks guys. I'm pretty sure I won't play with this DM again.

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    sounds like the time I was yelled at for threatening not to heal characters after I was forcibly dropped into a dark pit that an entire tower fell into. Oh, and the pit suddenly ended into utter blackness. It was the "halfling yo-yo" situation. Idiots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikethepoor View Post
    I did screw up at 1st level, by not being close enough to heal the party bard before he stepped on an explosive tile that nearly killed him. I hung back, thinking the party didn't need my healing spells as they'd taken very little damage. Stupid mistake, I know.
    Why isn't that the bard's fault for stepping on the tile?
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    Wow. Crappy Online DM. I recommend starting another group and sending all the other people besides the DM invites in a chatroom. Loudly. with the DM present.
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    Why isn't that the bard's fault for stepping on the tile?
    You tell me.

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    You tell me.
    Oh, I think I know. Because Clerics are Rodney Dangerfield. They don't get no respect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeejimbo View Post
    Oh, I think I know. Because Clerics are Rodney Dangerfield. They don't get no respect.
    Indeed. I'm now tempted to shatter this DM in half with an optimized wizard.

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