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    Default So we've had batman, and we've had joker...

    How would you build others (robin, batgirl, and the other major villains)?

    and let's please try to avoid locking the thread.

    [edit]I was referring to Grayson for rabin, but if you want to take into account all of them, go for it.
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    Gordon: Paladin. Doesn't really do much but is there to be the LG guy.

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    Robin: Rogue or Sorcerer

    Batgirl: Swordsage

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    Robin: Actually, a monk would almost work here...

    1. Batman makes his stuff. Robin-Monk gains use of wands and such through Bat-Wizard's master crafting skills.
    2. Robin uses a staff, unarmed strikes, and shuriken-boomerang-things. So do monks.
    3. Monks move fast and are supposed to be supremely agile martial artists. Robin learned from the best... and is now one of the top martial artists in Gotham, alongside previous Robins and Batman.
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    3. Monks move fast and are supposed to be supremely agile martial artists. Robin learned from the best... and is now one of the top martial artists in Gotham, alongside previous Robins and Batman.
    Clarification needed: Which Robin is the OP talking about?

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    Superman: LG Warlock. Eldritch Blast from eyes with Hellrime Blast+Eldritch Cone added to create Super breath, 24/7 flight, and he could even take hideous blow to handicap himself so he doesn't kill people with every attack.

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    Gordon: Paladin. Doesn't really do much but is there to be the LG guy.
    Ooh, I rather like Paladin for Gordon. The "Big Ears" type Paladin, not the "Miko" type.
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    I'd put him as a ranger(or scout)/barbarian, probably PrCing into frenzied berzerker. Didn't someone made an X-Men thread once?

    If we go the JLA route, we have Batman. Superman would be a gestalt, like warblade/swordsage/paladin, with huge racial bonuses.
    The marian manhunter would be a shape-shifter race, with similar build to superman.
    The flash would be that super-running monk

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    The flash would be that super-running monk
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    Actually, for Batman, I always saw as a Sorcerer. Batman has more options, Superman has more raw power, but not as flexable.

    Superman uses what he has to solve every problem. Batman tailors every solution to exactly fit every problem.

    On a side note, the Mods may allow me to try and get some feedback from my Joker build next week, with a stern admonition to avoid the excess baggage, depending on how the wind blows, so to speak. If anyone has any decent suggestions, you may PM them to me so I can get them applied when I try again.

    And really, for Robin, I always saw him as a Rogue/Thief Acrobat. He's not like superhumanly fast, but he is extremely agile. Also, UMD is a class skill for Rogues, unlike monks. Definately has Skill Mastery, anyways.

    Harley Quinn... I see her as a CE Swordsage (unarmed variant) with a lot of shadow hand, setting sun, and tiger claw maneuvers. Maybe Rogue because she tends to use a lot of toys herself. Warlock maybe? Taking the skill-boosting feats?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShneekeyTheLost View Post
    Actually, for Batman, I always saw as a Sorcerer. Batman has more options, Superman has more raw power, but not as flexable.
    Now I'm confused. Are you calling Sorcerers, with their limited amount of Spells known, more flexible than wizards?

    I know where you're going with the spontaneous spellcasting, but still...
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    Batman:Gestalt Wizard//Swordsage/Warblade with Leadership and an Artificer Cohort.
    Robin: Depends on which Robin. He goes from Batman's conscience(Crusader) to a weaker but more agile him(SS) to a good-guy mook(Monk)
    Batgirl: Warblade. Eventually retrains as a Diviner.

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    Green Lantern:Definitely a Psionic char

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    Two-Face:Not sure, but a lot of luck feats
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    Clarification needed: Which Robin is the OP talking about?
    Grayson, but if you want to take into account all three feel free to.
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    This is all very confusing, since we have a dual standard going here for Batman.

    Anyone who thinks Wizard is actually the best way to represent the Batman is crazy. Logic Ninja's famous Guide didn't even try to claim that. Rather, it was drawing an analogy between the attitude of a proper Wizard and the attitude of Batman.

    So which are we going for in this thread? Actually representing superheroes with D&D classes, or just drawing analogies to their outlooks and styles?

    (For the record, as for actual representation, I like Batman as a Factotum. Or Factotum//Artificer Gestalt, in versions of Batman that don't feature Fox as prominently as the Christopher Nolan movies. Though I could also be persuaded to see Batman as a Swordsage.)
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    Bane should be a Duskblade or a Psychic Warrior who specializes in burst damage output.

    Granted that's kinda to be expected with duskblades and psychic warriors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draz74 View Post
    This is all very confusing, since we have a dual standard going here for Batman.

    Anyone who thinks Wizard is actually the best way to represent the Batman is crazy. Logic Ninja's famous Guide didn't even try to claim that. Rather, it was drawing an analogy between the attitude of a proper Wizard and the attitude of Batman.

    So which are we going for in this thread? Actually representing superheroes with D&D classes, or just drawing analogies to their outlooks and styles?
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    Iron Man: I'm very tempted to say Artificer, but Warforged Warlock covers the abilities.

    The Riddler: Samurai. Because really, it's a mystery how it made it past playtesting.

    Dr. Strange: Archivist.

    Nick Fury: Urban Ranger, Dread Commando. Several levels of Badass as inherent bonus if played by Samuel L. Jackson.

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    Squirrel Girl: DM's girlfriend.
    More like DM's girlfriend's little sister age 12 who had to be in the game since there was no one else around to babysit her on game night.
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    If Gordon were a paladin, he would instantly be sabotaged and fall since he "worked with people accused of racketeering whom Harvey Dent investigated while he was in the Internal Affairs". Ah those paladin rules... :( Still I agree that it suits him very well.
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    More like DM's girlfriend's little sister age 12 who had to be in the game since there was no one else around to babysit her on game night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kladams707 View Post
    How would you build others (robin, batgirl, and the other major villains)?

    and let's please try to avoid locking the thread.

    [edit]I was referring to Grayson for rabin, but if you want to take into account all of them, go for it.
    To further complicate things, Babs or Cass as Batgirl?

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    What about when Batgirl winds up as Oracle? I'd say either a wizard specializing in Divination, or a Psion.

    And I'd say Squirrel Girl is an epic level druid. She uses natural weapons, has an animal companion (Tippy Toe), can summon massive amounts of animals to do her bidding, talks to animals as well, and is pretty much unbeatable.

    Or a Binder channeling some sort of houseruled in squirrel spirit. I've heard weirder.

    Although she's probably played by someone's little sister. Who likes squirrels. It's a miracle she isn't pony themed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobVosh View Post
    Gordon: Paladin. Doesn't really do much but is there to be the LG guy.
    Gordon is Lawful? I mean, sure, he runs police station, but he also willingly associates with a purely chaotic vigilante to get his work done on a day to day basis. It'd be one thing if batman was an occasional tool, but Gordon uses him constantly. I'd really say he's Neutral Good.

    Still, the Paladin persona does fit him though.

    Oh, and Bane = Barbarian who ALWAYS Power Attacks for Full regardless of scenario and uses that one version of Rage to stay in a constant rage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dairun Cates View Post
    Gordon is Lawful? I mean, sure, he runs police station, but he also willingly associates with a purely chaotic vigilante to get his work done on a day to day basis. It'd be one thing if batman was an occasional tool, but Gordon uses him constantly. I'd really say he's Neutral Good.
    I agree, I think Gordon is NG, not LG. He generally stays within the system, ergo he's generally lawful, but he doesn't hesitate to bend or break rules to get a job done, and he regularly consorts with - and relies on - Batman, definitely a nonlawful move since Batman isn't really legal.

    So, he's not opposed to following rules, but he'll break them when he needs to to get things done. Neutral good.
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    While Albert is a low level fighter (he was in the military after all) multiclassed to cleric (medic experience).

    Is there a butler prestige class? If not there needs to be.
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    While Albert is a low level fighter (he was in the military after all) multiclassed to cleric (medic experience).

    Is there a butler prestige class? If not there needs to be.
    Honestly, he'd probably be Expert, really. Or one or two levels of Warrior then Expert for the rest.

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