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    lol, i wonder if haley will finish her?

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    Poor Crystal.

    I wonder if she'll actually call someone to come kill her?

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    Heh heh. This should be good. Let's hope Haley does get the chance to finish her off.

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    Oh Crystal, you and your 8 brain cells.
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    Hot? she? as if
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    I likeBelkar's new tact.

    Even though I have a feeling it's going to come around and bite him in the arse even moreso than being an outright psychopath did.

    Cheers, Rich.

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    Heh, Good(ish) Belkar is of a lot funnier than Evil Belkar just in the way he percepts good .

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    I think this is actually FAR more cruel than killing her. Huzzah for the Belkster.
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    Great comic

    Aww,we are on one of those time zones ,when the comic is updated really fast
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    I giggled all the way through that. Bravo.

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    *cracks up for like five minutes*
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    Belkar faking character development is awesome.
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    He's seriouse about this fake growth...

    On the other hand, doesn't this make Belkar higher level than Haley? By a lot? Crystal gets to be Haleys level by virtue of Nemisis/Rival, and Bozzak was high enough to sneak attack Haley, but neither of them could even HIT Belkar, even when flanking. In a one on one between Belkar and Crystal, he downplayes her to the point of saying(And getting away with) 'I might beleive you if you'd said "I'm going to temporarily inconvenience you"'(Paraphrased). If she was Haleys level, then Belkar is...?

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    Great comic, the punchline was the best part. Belkar handing over foes to their mortal enemies is just far to fun to watch.
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    Hmm...lying in a pool of blood and at 0hp and still talking smack...would be a shame if Haley did kill her...
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    He's seriouse about this fake growth...

    On the other hand, doesn't this make Belkar higher level than Haley? By a lot? Crystal gets to be Haleys level by virtue of Nemisis/Rival, and Bozzak was high enough to sneak attack Haley, but neither of them could even HIT Belkar, even when flanking. In a one on one between Belkar and Crystal, he downplayes her to the point of saying(And getting away with) 'I might beleive you if you'd said "I'm going to temporarily inconvenience you"'(Paraphrased). If she was Haleys level, then Belkar is...?
    No, it's just that Belkar is a really seasoned warrior, and Haley is just a warrior PLUS overgrown pickpocket. Rogues are good at other things besides combat, so a rogue of level 15 is worse in combat than a ranger / barbarian(? People say he took a level, but all I ever saw was him considering it) at level 15.
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    Belkster showed her, but now looking for mr scruffy?

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    Oh my, that was AWESOME.

    Belkar is winning so many points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zadcap View Post
    He's seriouse about this fake growth...

    On the other hand, doesn't this make Belkar higher level than Haley? By a lot? Crystal gets to be Haleys level by virtue of Nemisis/Rival, and Bozzak was high enough to sneak attack Haley, but neither of them could even HIT Belkar, even when flanking. In a one on one between Belkar and Crystal, he downplayes her to the point of saying(And getting away with) 'I might beleive you if you'd said "I'm going to temporarily inconvenience you"'(Paraphrased). If she was Haleys level, then Belkar is...?
    A seasoned warrior instead of a glorified pickpocket.

    The mistake you're making is thinking that two different classes are equal in melee combat at the same level. They're not; a rogue is strictly inferior to any warrior class, especially when they don't have surprise or a flanker. A ranger/barbarian should demolish a rogue of equal level in straight-up one-on-one melee combat, no questions asked. And that's exactly what happens here.
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    "Nah, I'm gonna go find my cat." That one really just left me giggling.

    and to zadcap: Belkars a combat class, Haley, Bozzak and crystal are all rogue classes. Simple as that.
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    Wow, I open the website, click to read 615, and instantly 616 appears. It's like it was waiting for me to pop the tab.

    Anyway, quite predictable, but hilarious. Thanks, Giant.
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    Beautiful.

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    I love Belkars new fake development. Suits him quite well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zadcap View Post
    He's seriouse about this fake growth...

    On the other hand, doesn't this make Belkar higher level than Haley? By a lot? Crystal gets to be Haleys level by virtue of Nemisis/Rival, and Bozzak was high enough to sneak attack Haley, but neither of them could even HIT Belkar, even when flanking. In a one on one between Belkar and Crystal, he downplayes her to the point of saying(And getting away with) 'I might beleive you if you'd said "I'm going to temporarily inconvenience you"'(Paraphrased). If she was Haleys level, then Belkar is...?
    No rogues have lower attack bonuses, hit points, and likely combat related feats than rangers/barbarians. Belkar is better at combat then her, that's why she's only an incontinence.

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    Wow. Belkar just DEMOLISHED her. Let's see. Crystal moves up and whiffs, then there's what looks like a Full Attack from Belkar, then a Trip, and BOOM, the follow-up attack downs her. That's, what, 1 round?

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    Man, Belkar faking being a team-player is actually meaner than Belkar being a mindless sociopath. Yeouch!

    Still, his new penchant for handing over kills to other people is a pretty cool new shtick for him. Go Belkar!

    Quote Originally Posted by zadcap View Post
    He's seriouse about this fake growth...

    On the other hand, doesn't this make Belkar higher level than Haley? By a lot? Crystal gets to be Haleys level by virtue of Nemisis/Rival, and Bozzak was high enough to sneak attack Haley, but neither of them could even HIT Belkar, even when flanking. In a one on one between Belkar and Crystal, he downplayes her to the point of saying(And getting away with) 'I might beleive you if you'd said "I'm going to temporarily inconvenience you"'(Paraphrased). If she was Haleys level, then Belkar is...?
    Well, I think it be at least in part due to the fact that Haley's whole build is about being an archer. Her preferred role in the fight is up to 30 ft. away from the action where she can fire her bow for Sneak Attack while staying away from the stabbity parts. Flanked between two characters built for melee is a particularly bad place for her to be, while Belkar has literally been built with EXACTLY this kind of situation in mind (surrounding by hostiles and still coming out on top). Granted, he prefers a horde of weaklings, but it seems to work well against one or two heavy-hitters, as well.

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