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2008-12-14, 02:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Reasonability of Limited Wish, Wish, and Miracle options
What's reasonable and what's not reasonable about potential uses of limited wish, wish, and miracle?
For example, one of my questions on the FAQ thread:
Can you limited wish for a second contingency spell that works as another contingency on you (I know it would probably be up to the DM, I'm asking if it's reasonable)?
I.e. I cast contingency spell of bull's strength.
I limited wish for another contingency spell that would stack with my previous one, of bear's endurance. (listed spells may not be the ones used in the spells)
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2008-12-14, 02:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Sep 2008
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- The great state of denial
Re: Reasonability of Limited Wish, Wish, and Miracle options
If I DM'd that, I would give you a crafted contingency as the second one, meaning you'd have it, but have an increased EXP cost for the one use item involved.
Me: I'd get the paladin to help, but we might end up with a kid that believes in fairy tales.
DM: aye, and it's not like she's been saved by a mysterious little girl and a band of real live puppets from a bad man and worse step-sister to go live with the faries in the happy land.
Me: Yeah, a knight in shining armour might just bring her over the edge.
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2008-12-14, 02:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jul 2008
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Re: Reasonability of Limited Wish, Wish, and Miracle options
Contingency has no XP cost. The whole point of trying this is to prevent having to use "Contingent Spell" which takes XP.
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2008-12-14, 02:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Sep 2008
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- The great state of denial
Re: Reasonability of Limited Wish, Wish, and Miracle options
A crafted contingency is an item, and wishing for items has a cost. It's in complete arcane. I would not allow a player to wish for extra contingencies without attaining that item, as limited and full wish can emulate spells. Anything above emulation should try to fit into any of the other listed categories, and if that doesn't work the DM should be able to twist the wording if the effect is too great, and multiple contingencies can be.
Me: I'd get the paladin to help, but we might end up with a kid that believes in fairy tales.
DM: aye, and it's not like she's been saved by a mysterious little girl and a band of real live puppets from a bad man and worse step-sister to go live with the faries in the happy land.
Me: Yeah, a knight in shining armour might just bring her over the edge.
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2008-12-14, 02:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Mar 2007
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- Oregon, USA
Re: Reasonability of Limited Wish, Wish, and Miracle options
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2008-12-14, 02:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jul 2008
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