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"Then if you don't mind..." She smiles at Natalia, Mithril, Kurt and Alder and inclines her head.
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Mithril went toward the door waiting for Alder to show her where to go.
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Natali nods and makes her way to the door. She's quiet for the moment, her mind turned inward.
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Kurt leaves with a troubled expression on his face, though not at being asked to leave. Something else said in there is making his forehead crease like that.
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The rest of the party departs, Alder shutting the door behind them. If the elder son has any resentment about his mother's request, he doesn't show it. Rhenner finds himself alone in the room with his mother, who looks him up and down across her inflated stomach.
"I used to think you had trouble trusting people," she observes drily. "After- well, after what happened when you were twelve..." she trails off diplomatically. "You didn't trust me, and you didn't trust your father. Your brothers-" she scoffs a bit. It seems a bit of her mask has been dropped now that the two of them are alone- a rare but not unprecedented occurrence. (Though part of him has always wondered whether this, too, was a calculated move to gain his trust).
"But you grew older, and you seemed to have no trouble placing your trust in the Church. And so much the better for you." She smiles slightly, seeming genuinely proud. "But now you say... what was it... it 'turned out you'd been wrong.'"
"So what is it about those three you travel with, that makes you trust them? Are they really so deserving of it? So much more so than I am?"Last edited by Admiral; 2015-09-01 at 08:37 PM.
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"I have found that trust is best placed... partially", Rhenner replies, the cynic in charge of the voice controls again, "One can trust people deeply in one matter, and not much at all in another. Complete trust I put to no one, not even my god, which I suppose makes me a lousy priest, though He does not seem to mind." The cleric taps his holy symbol contemplatively. "It... has been long since I last saw you, or anyone I might call family, though I do realize this is only my own fault." He looks away.
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Once they're outside, Natalia looks at her friends. Now that it's done, what just happened seems slightly surreal.
"So...now what? Didn't think Rhenner..." she trails off, not really sure how to put her thoughts into words. So until she can, Natalia lowers her voice so alder can't hear. "Horde fights here for reason. Think she knows why. Might...be...like our search."My webcomic!
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"Perhaps..." she replies. "It's unfortunate, you'd likely find it a learning experience. I'm sure you've had many exciting adventures in your travels, especially with that charming god you follow, but you'd be surprised the challenges that raising a family can present." She scratches her head. "For instance, imagine you were deciding whether to trust one of your children with something, as well as trusting his choice in comrades. But your child has not, historically, given you much reason to trust him. How would you handle it, with all your wisdom?" She gives every appearance of speaking entirely in hypotheticals.
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Rhenner smiles wryly. Fine, lets play this game then.
"I would say that depends on what he needs to be trusted with now, in comparison to those things he has not been up to before. Partial trust can also be employed when dealing with family, it can even be necessary. There was something said in this room earlier, that family could always be trusted. Whether this was as an honest opinion, or the phrase happened to be convenient for some other reason, I can't say." He looks out of the window. "Anyway, after travelling the continent and meeting many people and heard their tales and whatnot, I dare to claim this is no absolute truth, but a pleasant saying those who are either fortunate or foolish like to say. For there are many for whom it would be very stupid to think so. However," he turns back to Elynwena, "I have also come to believe that for even greater a number, it is not a lie. It would seem, that most often people care deeply for those they have grown up with, to whom they apply this word 'family' to, and would go to great lengths to keep them safe. The half-elf shrugs. "What one's own family is like can't unfortunately be known for sure in advance, before there comes a time when it is tested. Still... I think not believing in them can cause damage already in itself." He looks slightly sorry again.Alamryn Kven, a druid who tries very hard not to be useless.
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"I believe what was said," she replies with a wry smile to match, "was 'almost always.'"
He looks out of the window. "Anyway, after travelling the continent and meeting many people and heard their tales and whatnot, I dare to claim this is no absolute truth, but a pleasant saying those who are either fortunate or foolish like to say. For there are many for whom it would be very stupid to think so. However," he turns back to Elynwena, "I have also come to believe that for even greater a number, it is not a lie. It would seem, that most often people care deeply for those they have grown up with, to whom they apply this word 'family' to, and would go to great lengths to keep them safe. The half-elf shrugs. "What one's own family is like can't unfortunately be known for sure in advance, before there comes a time when it is tested. Still... I think not believing in them can cause damage already in itself." He looks slightly sorry again.
She scratches her cheek before smiling. "How helpful it must be, to have an all seeing god on your side. The great frustration of this war is that we don't even know what we're fighting about!" she laughs. "If only I had been a cleric. I were wondering what the next step would be, someone would just tell me. Here-" she continues, waving her hand to suggest concocting a hypothetical. "Perhaps last week, I'd see an angel- no, a bit fanciful. Perhaps six days ago I'd hear... a whisper, in my ear, telling me how to stop the raids. It could just me, 'If you want the orcs and giants to stop attacking, just ask the Provost at the Institute of Llenovia, for she knows what they are after.'" She shrugs. "Something like that. Wouldn't that be helpful?"
She looks at him as if expecting him to answer before breaking into another laugh. "Ah, but I would probably just think I was going mad. So perhaps I'd check with the mayors of Tenvull and Orden, and they'd heard the same exact thing. How useful that would be." She waves her hand. "But I'm just having a little fun, Rhenner. I know your god doesn't whisper in your ear." She smiles pleasantly. "So then where could such a voice ever come from?"
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"And who might you all be?" comes a voice from the stairs. Another person has appeared on the landing, a tall and muscular elf, wearing a brown set of robes- appearing perhaps a few years older than Rhenner. The insignia of the Firm marks his hand.
"Ah," says Alder, nodding his head in greeting and turning to the party. "This is Lander, my stepbrother. Lander, these are friends of Rhenner- you may remember him, if your memory reaches very far. These are Kurt, Mithril, and Natalia- Natalia was just bemoaning the fact that my siblings and I exist."Thanks to CoffeeIncluded for the avatar of Shiny, from the Eldgar campaign:
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Natalia sticks out a hand in greeting, but it lowers at his second comment. Not that she wasn't expecting something like it, but still. "Hey!" she says, hurt. "Wasn't bemoaning."
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"Ah, pardon me," Alder replies slyly. "You were merely surprised. Isn't it funny how no one is surprised by their own existence? They are only surprised, and often concerned, when life happens to others."
Lander rolls his eyes good-naturedly at Alder's comments. "Don't mind him," he adds. "I myself don't owe my existence to Elynwena, if that's what you mean. Though I do owe my home to her."Thanks to CoffeeIncluded for the avatar of Shiny, from the Eldgar campaign:
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Natalia opens her mouth to respond, but after a moment closes it again. It can be hard enough responding to Rhenner sometimes as it is.
Lander rolls his eyes good-naturedly at Alder's comments. "Don't mind him," he adds. "I myself don't owe my existence to Elynwena, if that's what you mean. Though I do owe my home to her."
"You a Mage?" she asks, awkwardly, pointing at his robes. But he has the mark of the Firm, not the Institute. Another pause. "You built wall?"Last edited by CoffeeIncluded; 2015-09-09 at 07:59 AM.
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The shock is painfully obvious on Rhenner's face and he struggles to reply. "...Where... indeed." His mouth feels dry. "And the problem with such voices... would be that one can never know what... they are truly after..." His voice trails away and he takes a few steps to the side, to be able to lean slightly on the wall. He finds it difficult to look at his mother and his gaze wanders randomly. He has an odd sensation, as if he was not really present in the room anymore.
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"So again..." his mother finishes, "it all comes down to trust." She seems casual enough, but Rhenner can tell her eyes were focused intently on his reaction, which did not go unnoticed.
"What would you do, if you heard such a thing? Give it what it wants, if it is in your power? Be it a god or a demon, that may be the wisest choice." She shrugs. "Would you tell anyone, trust that they may have the power to use such knowledge better than you could?"
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...Can we draw a chart of the family? I think it would useful for me.Spoiler
Sorry to lead to confusion! As said in the first post he was mentioned in, Lander is an elven stepbrother, not a half-brother- an (already born) son of the elf Elynwena married.
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"Most people can be expected to mourn a lost sibling," Alder observes drily. "Why don't we equally mourn those who never existed? If you truly love your children, isn't it logical to want more?" Natalioa still can't tell if he's sincere or making fun of her. "And the whole world's just full of children," Alder stretches out his arms, "if you know where to look."
"You a Mage?" she asks, awkwardly, pointing at his robes. But he has the mark of the Firm, not the Institute. Another pause. "You built wall?"
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That one comment hurt, a little barb in Natalia's chest that Alder probably didn't even know he put there. "And if can't care for children there?" she asks, a little sharper than she should.
"That's right," Lander replies, stretching as he stands. "I was a stonemason in Cardonne, for twenty years. Neeson- that's my husband- was the real brains of this operation, though; he's an architect. And Alder can always be counted on to sit back, drink berrywine, and tell us we're doing it wrong."
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Sorry, didn't mean to give the wrong impression. I imagine robes as something you'd see in a fantasy setting, not just on mages. But I'm not very knowledgeable about fashion.
"You said husband," she says, carefully. "so you his husband too? And means same thing as humans?"
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"I... it's..." The words kept running away from him. "I... would not", he finally manages, "not do as it says. But I'm not good at taking orders... from anyone these days. Even if it is to their benefit, in short term anyway, it does sound like the one hearing voices is being used. And they wouldn't even know for what purpose or how. It seems...", it takes a moment to herd the scattered thoughts together again, "I seems to me, that it's doubtful such helpful advice would be given just like that, without any gain to the whisperer. And what that might be, is not shared."
"Maybe... I would tell someone", he replies and starts to rub his forehead with both hands, "Or, not... I don't know, it depends... There is the risk, of sounding mad." He's starting to sound less coherent himself.
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Sorry to lead to confusion! As said in the first post he was mentioned in, Lander is an elven stepbrother, not a half-brother- an (already born) son of the elf Elynwena married.
I know, too many siblings!! I'll try to get a chart up!
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She raises her hands in a shrug. "If you were afraid of sounding mad," she notes, "there are always ways to speak of it, without speaking of it. And only to those you think there is a chance of it being helpful."
She taps her chin. "Now what was it you said you were up to in Woodhelm?"
"Well, you start building walls, and don't stop until you can," Alder replies, seeming unconcerned. "Is this something you're an expert in, now?" he adds slyly. "Childcare?"
She saw part of the palisade when they teleported, and she wants to take a closer look, maybe help. She needs to work on something, set her mind to a problem she knows and knows how to solve. Natalia opens her mouth, starts to say, "Can I..." and then keeps it open. Rhenner said it, and he never commented, but to have Lander himself say it too...
"You said husband," she says, carefully. "so you his husband too? And means same thing as humans?"
He gestures over his shoulder. "If you're interested, you can come take a look at the wall."Last edited by Admiral; 2015-09-10 at 11:23 PM.
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Mithril could help but laugh at the idea of giving Natalia small children. "No, that would be me. Natalia would be more likely to hide, especially once the screaming started. Of course my advantage is that they get rather distracted by simple spells." She smiled at Natalia and squeezed her shoulder. "Go explore the wall. Alder, are their any shrines to the gods nearby?"
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"I would appreciate that, a moment to pray would be good after the day I have had."
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Natalia's not entirely sure what alder means (is he referring to Lander? Unless he knows something she doesn't then she meant unable to care for, not unable to have, and the difference was lost in her Nutspeak) and so she just looks at him until Mithril's comment and shared mental image makes her giggle as well. "No, I just...make rolling playpen, push to you. Older children better, can hold tools."
"Sure, unless humans started using it differently when I wasn't looking," Lander replies.
He gestures over his shoulder. "If you're interested, you can come take a look at the wall."
Because it's not just...husband means they're married, that someone married them, and that nobody has a problem with it. Which means that she and they...this part of them (it's not all of them, but she can't not like girls almost like she can't not tinker, build, feel comfort at metal gears clicking between her fingers and seeing the course of lightning) matters, that it exists.
and now she can explore this wall too, maybe even get to practice her skills again. Natalia wipes her eyes with the back of her hand. "I am, want to look. Thank you."
She smiled at Natalia and squeezed her shoulder. "Go explore the wall. Alder, are their any shrines to the gods nearby?"My webcomic!
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Alder nods and leads Mithril outside, where he points out a small stone temple a few hundred yards away. As she walks towards it, she passes some of the other villagers- some elven, some human, and many mixed- who regard her with mild curiosity.
Mithril enters the temple to find it consists mostly of a single room, empty of any worshippers, with several rows of pews, of a size and layout not dissimilar to the chapel she'd found in Deldon. Instead of stone statues, however, the room is lined with about thirty oil paintings, each depicting one of the gods. The paintings in the collection are of vastly different styles. A depiction of Ehlonna in the woods is soft and impressionistic, while one of Thor is harsh and brazen, and several are so abstract she cannot understand what god they may represent.
At the end of the pews Mithril sees an entrance to a small room that appears to be a studio. Peering inside, she sees an elven woman seated at a stool, turned away from the door, just starting work on a new canvas. The woman wears a brown robe studded with spots of paint, and on her hand Mithril spots the insignia of the Church.
The elf glances over her shoulder and jumps, good naturedly, at Mithril's appearance. "Oh, good afternoon." She raises her eyebrows. Mithril guesses she is likely older than Rhenner's mother, perhaps two centuries. "I haven't seen any new faces here in a while."
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Mithril peered at the canvas. "I have seen many. Though these paintings are new, I am unused to all the gods so close together. It does seem to be a habit on this continent though." Realizing she hadn't introduced herself she bowed. "I am Mithril, follower of Boccob. Your art is very interesting. I was hoping to use your temple to pray for a spell, at least while my companions are busy. There are so many questions Boccob leaves me and rough travel is never suited for contemplation."