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    Default Re: OOTS death pool (thread #4)

    Quote Originally Posted by kinglinus1 View Post
    A million Quatloo's that every character in the comic dies next comic. (1162)
    Does that include characters that are already dead, like Roy's father?

    (Can we bet on characters that are already dead? Notionally there are ways for them to "die" in the sense that their soul could be destroyed or somesuch.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kinglinus1 View Post
    A million Quatloo's that every character in the comic dies next comic. (1162)
    Sorry, bets must be on individual characters!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquillion View Post
    Does that include characters that are already dead, like Roy's father?

    (Can we bet on characters that are already dead? Notionally there are ways for them to "die" in the sense that their soul could be destroyed or somesuch.)
    Well, you certainly can bet on characters that are already dead -- it's been done before. (There's a joke bet on Miko...) I don't think "soul being destroyed counts as a death" is in the rules right now but, well, I'd count it, and I could add it if people think it really needs to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniffnoy View Post
    Sorry, bets must be on individual characters!
    Alright than.

    A million Quatloos that Roy dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that Durkan dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that Elan dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that Haley dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that Belkar dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that V dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that Xykon dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that Redcloak dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that tMitD dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that Hel dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that Thor dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that Odin dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that O-Chul dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that Lien dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that Hinjo dies next comic
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    Quote Originally Posted by kinglinus1 View Post
    Alright than.

    A million Quatloos that Roy dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that Durkan dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that Elan dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that Haley dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that Belkar dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that V dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that Xykon dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that Redcloak dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that tMitD dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that Hel dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that Thor dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that Odin dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that O-Chul dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that Lien dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that Hinjo dies next comic
    A million Quatloos that Miko dies next comic
    You can only bet on one character at a time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniffnoy View Post
    You can only bet on one character at a time.
    God so many rules, fine, I bet an infinite amount of quatloos that Rich Burlew dies before the next book is finished, happy now?
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    Default Re: OOTS death pool (thread #4)

    Is Rich a character in his own comic? I vaguely recall him appearing at one point, but I can't recall where - perhaps the aside when he cut his thumb?

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    Yup, the appearances thread list it as his sole appearance: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0864.html

    I think I have to rule that in-comic-Rich isn't a significant enough character to qualify for an exception to the "at least 10 appearances" rule, sorry.
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    Default Re: OOTS death pool (thread #4)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sniffnoy View Post
    Yup, the appearances thread list it as his sole appearance: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0864.html

    I think I have to rule that in-comic-Rich isn't a significant enough character to qualify for an exception to the "at least 10 appearances" rule, sorry.
    Oh my god! It's like you don't want me to bet in your betting pool.


    You know what? Fine.


    I will bet every single possesion I have ever owned that you die before the next comic comes out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kinglinus1 View Post
    Oh my god! It's like you don't want me to bet in your betting pool.


    You know what? Fine.


    I will bet every single possesion I have ever owned that you die before the next comic comes out!
    You can only bet points, kinglinus! And Sniffnoy isn't a character in the comic at all!

    kinglinus, this is not 'nam, this is the OOTS Death Pool. There are rules.
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    You can only bet points, kinglinus! And Sniffnoy isn't a character in the comic at all!

    kinglinus, this is not 'nam, this is the OOTS Death Pool. There are rules.
    Merlin's beard, you all are lawful neutral. I could actually read the rules, but Sniffnoy was already bumping for visibility, and this is more fun.

    I bet -30 points that Roy overthrows Persia in the next 13 comics.
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    Persia isn't a character in the comic!

    I'm not sure there's a specific rule against negative bets, but generally speaking bets have to be framed in "bet on character X" - you can't just bet on them "for the next comic", since you're not allowed to change your bet until they or someone else dies. Also, you don't lose your bet if you get it wrong, so you wouldn't gain anything from eg. a negative bet on Elan.

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    Fine, I bet π-30^2 points.
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    Welp, nobody bet on Kandro, but (to my surprise) he has enough appearances to count! So, nobody gets points, but bets may now be changed.
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    It looks (as of #1167) like we're starting the sequence where Durkon will be heading to the council chamber and break the ceiling to let sunlight in and destroy all the vampires. Now I have to decide which of the remaining four vampires will die first, to maximize my points. Sandy is damaged here and is in the way of the fighters, but he also seems tough.

    I change my bet to the vampire dwarf with blue curly hair and blue robe, whose unholy symbol has a yellow outline, aka Curly, who has speaking role in #1157. She's had enough apparences according to the counting thread.
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    OK, so, for the longest time, I thought that Tarquin's death would be announced kind of offhandedly, as if he were a minor character in a Shakespeare play.

    Now, I'm pretty much convinced that he won't even get that much closure. Call me impatient, but we're nearing the end of the story. It doesn't look like there will be an opportunity for that to be announced offhand.

    I'm changing my vote to Sigdi Thundershield, aka Durkon's mother. She has the advantage of being a character who probably wouldn't want to be resurrected.

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    The Exarch is going to die. Like, soon. I will wager half a ball of yarn.
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    The Exarch, who was once Gontor, is dead! Points have been awarded! Bets may be changed!
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    Yep, Gontor as a vampire is destroyed in #1174. Several people bet on him. The other two vampires are still undead, but not for long I think. I hope they won't just get destroyed off panel, with their body never seen.
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    Risky bet because it may not be confirmed onscreen for awhile, if at all, but for at least ten strips from #1174, I'll vote on The Frontarchess (The vampire at the Godsmoot who became High Priestess on a technicality when Durkon needed to teleport out but Hel still required her High Priestess to be present for her vote to count.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlawedParadigm View Post
    Risky bet because it may not be confirmed onscreen for awhile, if at all, but for at least ten strips from #1174, I'll vote on The Frontarchess (The vampire at the Godsmoot who became High Priestess on a technicality when Durkon needed to teleport out but Hel still required her High Priestess to be present for her vote to count.)
    The appearances thread lists her as having only 2 appearances; I suspect I probably shouldn't allow that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniffnoy View Post
    The appearances thread lists her as having only 2 appearances; I suspect I probably shouldn't allow that...
    Does Curly have ten yet, then? (The fleeing vampire in #1175)
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    Sniffnoy: I'll need a judgement from you here. In #1175 last panel, Hel says “I still have one left.” Does this mean that we've learned about the death of Sandy (the unnamed vampire) in this strip? If so, that would be the death of another significant character, you'd have to award points, and people could change bets again.

    Also, I think the Giant Death Worm had 9 apperances so far, so if he died here, that'd be two short of counting.

    FlawedParadigm: yes, in fact I've already betted on her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlawedParadigm View Post
    Does Curly have ten yet, then? (The fleeing vampire in #1175)
    Yup, that's a legal bet for sure. Will go record it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b_jonas View Post
    Sniffnoy: I'll need a judgement from you here. In #1175 last panel, Hel says “I still have one left.” Does this mean that we've learned about the death of Sandy (the unnamed vampire) in this strip? If so, that would be the death of another significant character, you'd have to award points, and people could change bets again.

    Also, I think the Giant Death Worm had 9 apperances so far, so if he died here, that'd be two short of counting.

    FlawedParadigm: yes, in fact I've already betted on her.
    Oh, geez, hoo boy. Good question, good catch; I didn't even think of this. Honestly, I'm kind of wondering if I should have counted deaths back at #1122 (or #1123 or whatever), where it seems to have been implied that they killed all the remaining vampires present except the few shown still alive and the ones who were sent off earlier. Well, it's too late to go back and do that now; fortunately I don't think it would have resulted in any points anyway.

    Anyway, yeah, I'll count this as points for Sandy. Good catch, I don't think I would've caught that on my own.

    OK, bets may now be changed. I'll go update the first post shortly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniffnoy View Post
    if I should have counted deaths back at #1122 (or #1123 or whatever), where it seems to have been implied that they killed all the remaining vampires present except the few shown still alive and the ones who were sent off earlier.
    Weren't each of them shown to be destroyed on screen somehow?

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    Weren't each of them shown to be destroyed on screen somehow?
    A number of them were, but I think there are more that weren't that were implied. I could be wrong about that, though.
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    Question. If a character was turned to stone, and then the statue is shattered to pieces, then would that immediately count as the death of the character, or only later if the comic explicitly confirms that it can't be fixed? In particular, do we know if the the Make Whole spell can fix a broken petrified person in principle, and whether a petrified dwarf is small enough to be in the size limit of that spell? I don't think this is likely to come up in the comic, but it could, so it would be best to decide in advance. Durkon is the third character who's turned to stone (though Celia may not count because she didn't have enough appearances yet when she was petrified.)

    Background: in the ending a certain other fantasy movie that isn't based on D&D, a villain is turned to stone and then broken to small pieces, and I claimed that that just makes way for a sequel because an ally can fix the statue any time and revive him, whereas other viewers claimed that the villain is dead for good and can't be revived. There need not be a definite answer for that movie, but in this case Sniffnoy can at least tell what he would score this thread if that happened in an OotS strip.

    As a bonus question, if we found out that Girard was turned into stone before he died of old age, disguised as a monument on his coffin, and the coffin contained someone else's bones, so that Girard's relatives could revive him in an emergency, then would that mean that he died in the explosion at #899, and would this count as a death during the time of the main comic for the purposes of this thread, so that we could change votes when we learn about this? Girard had more than 10 appearances according to the Wrecan thread.
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    I think I'd count that, yeah. Not sure I want to bother putting that in the "rulings" section in the first post because this is entirely hypothetical so far. Also, hopefully if this were to occur the comic might clarify... although it likely wouldn't do so within the same strip. So, uh, I'd count it but might have to be prepared to revert if the comic made it clear that this is not "dead"? I think that's the best answer I can give.
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    Wow, a second point! Wa hey!

    OK, now I'm really sure there won't be any more deaths before the end of the book (which will end with Team Evil finding the Gate, of course...) So I could just leave it, but then I'll have no bets running at all, and if a random unexpected thing happens, I could lose out!

    So, take a wild shot in the dark - just in case the book ends with them all on the Mechane heading further north, and the cliffhanger is not the Gate, but the Mechane getting attacked by, I dunno, a surprise entry by a new faction of chaotic space monkeys led by Recloak's niece, I'm going to bet upon a known member of the Mechane's crew dieing in the sudden attack. Not Andi or Bandana.... so another visually well known crew member to be killed to provide shock value?

    My new bet is on Felix!
    Geez, what is it with that guy and needing to figure out all the fiddly little details?

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    Re #1180. I think Curly got away. But an adventuring people should have no more than 6 adventurers, so
    I'm changing my bet back to Belkar.
    I can change because I bet on Curly before #1175.
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