New Sonic trailer, with updated design

[Kareeah_Indaga]

It's not like there's anything else to see, anyway.

This is my reaction too. The trailers didn't wow me, but it might be a good enough excuse to get out of the house for a bit. As long as I don't regret seeing it afterwards, it'll be a win.

[Kato]

It was perfectly fine, which I guess is close to perfection for a video game movie.
Sadly, I think this might have been the first movie in a long time I've seen in German because nobody's airing a kids movie in English here..
But I hardly minded. Was it perfect? No. But it was entertaining enough for 90 minutes and Mr Carrey got me nostalgic more than Sonic did, to be honest. I could still list a bunch of problems but for a kids movie and a video game movie I won't complain.

(not sure how I'd compare it to the obvious (?) genre rival Detective Pikachu but going with my gut I'd say they are about on par)

[Lemmy]

Watched it this weekend.

Turned out to be pretty entertaining. Not amazing, but fun enough for me to enjoy my time.
And it looks like it'll make a hefty chunk of money... Who would have imagined that listening to your audience would be more profitable than antagonizing and gaslighting them, huh?

Oh, right... EVERYONE. EVERYONE KNEW THAT. But apparently Hollywood has to learn this basic lesson again... And sadly, they aren't the only ones...

[MCerberus]

Oh, right... EVERYONE. EVERYONE KNEW THAT. But apparently Hollywood has to learn this basic lesson again... And sadly, they aren't the only ones...

Scott.
Pilgrim.

There's a ton of old baggage about properties with strong geek-culture attachment that comes straight from that movie's failure. It reviewed well with both audiences and critics, nobody saw it, then it was a big piracy target when it hit video.

[Lemmy]

Scott.
Pilgrim.

There's a ton of old baggage about properties with strong geek-culture attachment that comes straight from that movie's failure. It reviewed well with both audiences and critics, nobody saw it, then it was a big piracy target when it hit video.

I think that was more a case of Scott Pilgrim being a relatively unknown franchise. It was popular, but not as popular as they thought, IMHO. I know plenty of geeks who barely knew anything about the series at the time (myself included).

I still maintain that trying to listen and please your audience will far more often than not be much more profitable than antagonizing, gas-lighting and slandering them. Turns out, people don't like that, and are less than eager to spend their hard-earned money to be lectured by multi-billionaire corporations and out-of-touch celebrities and cry-bullies.

But, hey... They can keep trying. I'm perfectly fine keeping my money in my wallet. And I'm clearly not alone in that.

[Kareeah_Indaga]

I still maintain that trying to listen and please your audience will far more often than not be much more profitable than antagonizing, gas-lighting and slandering them. Turns out, people don't like that, and are less than eager to spend their hard-earned money to be lectured by multi-billionaire corporations and out-of-touch celebrities and cry-bullies.

Second this. This is part of why I swore off ESO for the year.

[Fyraltari]

Second this. This is part of why I swore off ESO for the year.

Elder Scrolls Online?

[Peelee]

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So it was way better than I expected (which was a very low bar, to be fair), but there were two issues I had pretty much the entire time. The first being that characters seemed to have audience knowledge throughout; for example, Robotnik never showed any credentials, but the sheriff believed him 100%, despite Robotnik starting off by lying about who he was.
Or Tom knowing Robotnik's name, despite (I believe) him never hearing it. Things like that.

Then there was the hanging chad of Tom being openly labelled as a terrorist, with a national broadcast, and then not being recognized as such by anyone but his sister-in-law and the government or media never revoking said status.

[Kato]

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So it was way better than I expected (which was a very low bar, to be fair), but there were two issues I had pretty much the entire time. The first being that characters seemed to have audience knowledge throughout; for example, Robotnik never showed any credentials, but the sheriff believed him 100%, despite Robotnik starting off by lying about who he was.
Or Tom knowing Robotnik's name, despite (I believe) him never hearing it. Things like that.

Then there was the hanging chad of Tom being openly labelled as a terrorist, with a national broadcast, and then not being recognized as such by anyone but his sister-in-law and the government or media never revoking said status.

I didn't notice the first thing, maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention. But yes, the second was a big issue.
Putting aside whether they want to keep this kind of secret or start a(n inter)national manhunt, nobody recognizing him was extremely weird, even if it was only a short time.
I guess they might have revoked it after the finale, though, but not sure how well that would work.

[Peelee]

I didn't notice the first thing, maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention.

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Maybe a better example would be Robotnik seizing the quill immediately and using it as proof that Donut Lord was harboring Sonic. Robotnik, at that point, had a footprint. Why does he see the quill as anything other than an unknown item lying around? He's never seen Sonic at that point. But it's all the proof he needs somehow.

[Fyraltari]

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Maybe a better example would be Robotnik seizing the quill immediately and using it as proof that Donut Lord was harboring Sonic. Robotnik, at that point, had a footprint. Why does he see the quill as anything other than an unknown item lying around? He's never seen Sonic at that point. But it's all the proof he needs somehow.

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Because the quill is very unusual and in close proximity to Sonic’s last position so it is likely that the two are connected. And if they aren’t the only consequence would be to have inconvenienced Tom, which Robotnik won’t lose sleep over.

Also he is very cocky.

[DigoDragon]

Saw the movie over last weekend and laughed a lot more than I expected. Jim Carey really gave it his A game humor.

[Kareeah_Indaga]

Saw it today. Impressions as follows:

1.) I enjoyed it more than I thought I would.
2.) Jim Carrey was not a good fit for Robotnik.
3.) I desperately want to see a crossover between this and Iron Man.

Elder Scrolls Online?

Correct.

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Maybe a better example would be Robotnik seizing the quill immediately and using it as proof that Donut Lord was harboring Sonic. Robotnik, at that point, had a footprint. Why does he see the quill as anything other than an unknown item lying around? He's never seen Sonic at that point. But it's all the proof he needs somehow.

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Maybe I was imagining things, but I thought I saw footprints in the driveway gravel leading up to Donut Lord's house when Robotnik was walking up. Presumably they were Sonic's. And then the quill would have just been obviously out-of-place enough to act as confirmation.

[Fyraltari]

Correct.

I will probably regret asking but what do you mean exactly?

[Traab]

I will probably regret asking but what do you mean exactly?

Im guessing but I assume the devs kept ignoring the customers and changing stuff in terrible ways, ticking off the player base. I still remember the good old days of everquest, when they nerfed monks so hard it spawned literally thousands upon thousands of pages of rage on the class message board. Everything from carefully gathered evidence of exactly how many ways the nerf messed the class up to inventive screaming about how and in what painful time frame they wanted the devs to die. They literally had to create an entire section for monk rage posts on the class forum to contain it all so it wouldnt bury everything else on the message board. I mean, every time a class gets a nerf the class complains about how unfair it is, but this was such a massive backlash I tend to think the devs only kept it in place for as long as they did out of spite and some strange desire to not make it look like they could be forced to backtrack by the players.

[Kareeah_Indaga]

Im guessing but I assume the devs kept ignoring the customers and changing stuff in terrible ways, ticking off the player base.

In general yes. In the interest of not derailing this further please go to the Elder Scrolls thread and I'll answer there.

ON TOPIC...was it just me or were the bad guys at the beginning

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Echidnas?

Because this raises questions about how they're going to do Knuckles.

[DigoDragon]

ON TOPIC...was it just me or were the bad guys at the beginning

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Echidnas?

Because this raises questions about how they're going to do Knuckles.

They seemed

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to be Echidnas to me. Sounds like a good setup to show Knuckles' antagonist side against Sonic.

With Tails at the end looking for Sonic, my guess is there's a small resistance movement fighting back against that tribe back in Sonic's home dimension.

[MCerberus]

They seemed

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to be Echidnas to me. Sounds like a good setup to show Knuckles' antagonist side against Sonic.

With Tails at the end looking for Sonic, my guess is there's a small resistance movement fighting back against that tribe back in Sonic's home dimension.

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I actually hope Jimbotnik is the ultimate threat at the end via Metal Sonic. I think that's the endpoint for the quill anyway. One of the cool things about the (minimalist) story in Sonic 3 was pulling back after the Sonic vs Knuckles fight and seeing the scale of Robotnik's plans.

Plus it would provide closure for Sonic's personal arc to, with his friends, fight the sociopathic embodiment of what other people would do with his powers.
Then for a third movie Carrey would be perfect to play an over-the-edge madman that would either have the ruby from Mania or try and control Chaos. Wait no that last storyline draws too close to introducing Big the Cat.