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2020-05-03, 08:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Crazy Idea Mafia
The game will start when all players have claimed their role or at 14:00 GMT 05/05/2020, whichever comes sooner.
Townie role info, for fakeclaiming purposes in case you don't already have a town role in your PM:
You are a member of the Town faction, and may not speak privately with anyone.
You have no factional abilities. Vote!
You win the game when all other factions except for the SURVIVOR are eliminated, or nothing can prevent this from happening.
AvatarVecna, Cult Roleblocker, died day 1
Valmark, Mafia Universal Backup, died night 3
Logic, Undefined, died night 0.
Xihirli, Mafia Jack of All Trades, died day 4
Snowblaze, Survivor Seer, died night 1
Elenna, Werewolf Strongman, died night 4
gac3, Alien Universal Backup, died night 1
Apogee1, Alien Mindslaver, died night 3
Duck999, Alien Vigilante, died night 3
flat_footed, Werewolf Spy
Smasher0404, Werewolf Doctor, died night 2
BasketOfPuppies, Werewolf Secret Agent
JoyWonderLove, Werewolf Secret Agent
bc56, Alien Researcher, died day 3
Kgato503, Cult Doctor, died night 2
trtl, Alien Mindslaver, endgamed
Logan1996, Werewolf Roleblocker
Lord Athos, Mafia Strongman, died night 4
CaomhinTheCape, Town Watcher turned Cult Stalker, endgamed
Aventine, Cult Secret Agent, died night 3
DukeGod, Serial Killer Tracker, died day 2Last edited by Unavenger; 2020-05-21 at 12:21 PM.
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2020-05-04, 05:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Crazy Idea Mafia
Are we allowed to post in here yet? And if so, what are the tie rules?
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Werewolf games won: 28
Werewolf games lost: 19
Games as town: 29.5
Games as neutral: 6.5
Games as wolf: 11
Games narrated: 2
Deaths: 31
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2020-05-04, 05:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Crazy Idea Mafia
Your discards are supposed to be revealed, by me, at the same time. You are supposed to wait until the game starts to start posting. A lot of other stuff was supposed to happen. Can we please just wait a moment for the last players to be done discarding?
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2020-05-05, 08:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Crazy Idea Mafia
AvatarVecna discarded Alien Innocent-Looking
Valmark discarded Town Protective
Xihirli discarded Town Tracking
Snowblaze discarded Town Roleblocking
Elenna discarded Town Jack of All Trades
gac3 discarded Town Investigative
Apogee1 discarded Town Jack of All Trades
Duck999 discarded Mafia Investigative
flat_footed discarded Town Tracking
Smasher0404 discarded Town Tracking
BasketOfPuppies discarded Town Jack of All Trades
JoyWonderLove discarded Town Investigative
bc56 discarded Mafia Innocent-Looking
Kgato503 discarded Mafia Roleblocking
trtl discarded Town Tracking
Logan1996 discarded Town Investigative
Lord Athos discarded Town Protective
CaomhinTheCape discarded Cultist Protective
Aventine discarded Werewolf Investigative
DukeGod discarded Town Protective
Logic discarded Town Roleblocking, Cultist Universal Backup and Town Tracking.
Logic died last night. He was killed by analysis paralysis. Logic's role was undefined.
DAY 1 START
Day 1 will end in 48 hours. The player with the most votes will die. In case of a tie, whoever reached the most votes first will die.
You may vote for NO LYNCH. NO LYNCH works the same way as a vote for a player when resolving ties.
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2020-05-05, 08:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Crazy Idea Mafia
AvatarVecna, rest assured this vote is not at all random. (Partly because of last game, partly so Valmark has to self-vote. Yes, I’m evil. But not in the sense that lynching me is a good move.)Last edited by Snowblaze; 2020-05-06 at 01:11 AM.
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Werewolf games won: 28
Werewolf games lost: 19
Games as town: 29.5
Games as neutral: 6.5
Games as wolf: 11
Games narrated: 2
Deaths: 31
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2020-05-05, 09:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Crazy Idea Mafia
Discarding a Protection role is thinking (or at least publicly presenting as thinking) that you want the game to be over quickly - fewer protection powers flying around means fewer blocked nightkills. Shorter games with fewer protection powers are in service of non-town factions who have to fight an uphill battle, even if they don't have a faction NK. FoS on Valmark, Lord Athos,
CaoimhinTheCape, and DukeGod.
(oh wait, looks like somebody forgot to put "signal your sarcasm clearly" in big bold letters on this page of my script)Last edited by AvatarVecna; 2020-05-06 at 08:43 AM.
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2020-05-05, 09:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Crazy Idea Mafia
I just noticed no-one discarded a Killing role...
...how many people will die night one?I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 28
Werewolf games lost: 19
Games as town: 29.5
Games as neutral: 6.5
Games as wolf: 11
Games narrated: 2
Deaths: 31
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2020-05-05, 09:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Crazy Idea Mafia
Let's go for
gac3.Last edited by Lord Athos; 2020-05-07 at 09:00 AM.
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2020-05-05, 09:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Crazy Idea Mafia
Hi all! This is my first game here so I probably have some learning to do. I've played a fair amount of ftf mafia though so I hope I've got some useful contributions.
I was very impressed with this logic, but anyone who discards a roleblock role similarly wants the game to be shorter, right? More night actions resolving, more deaths result. So Snowblaze and Kgato...
Oh, andSnowblazeposted first, showing an eagerness to precede with the game, and therefore desire for night, and for kills.
(Day one is the day with these initially arbitrary votes right? Only ever have played with night one coming before daytime)Last edited by Apogee1; 2020-05-06 at 09:42 PM. Reason: vote strikethrough
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2020-05-05, 09:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Crazy Idea Mafia
I'm gonna hold off on being super-concerned until after I see how N1 goes. There's also potentially a lot of voiders and baners flying around, and just cuz the killing roles didn't get discarded doesn't mean those powers necessarily got picked, it just means there a little bit more likely to have been picked.
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2020-05-05, 09:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Crazy Idea Mafia
AvatarVecnaas revenge for all those QTs.
Could be that we only started out with one or two killing cards? Maybe? IDK, out of 63 cards and 8 abilities I'd expect at least three or four...
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Although I guess some people could have gotten a killing card and taken the faction from it and not the ability. Also, it seems like the mafia, wolf, and cult killing roles don't actually add a kill, they just boost the factional kill? So three factional kills plus any town or alien vig kills... still feels like a lot, even with protective roles.
Also, wow, that's a lot of town discards. I'm not really surprised, but still. Granted, some people might have gotten two town cards. (I doubt anyone would have three town cards since Unavenger said everyone should have a decent choice)Last edited by Elenna; 2020-05-06 at 09:32 PM.
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2020-05-05, 09:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Crazy Idea Mafia
Hello! I discarded a roleblock role because I think your power being "stop others from using their power" is kind of boring. There are much more fun powers and roles out there.
Also, I posted first because I wanted to make sure I got to the thread before Valmark so he couldn't get away with not self-voting.
@Elenna, to be pedantic the cultists don't have a factional kill, they have a conversion. But it's still three, because you forgot the Serial Killer. If there is a Serial Killer.I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 28
Werewolf games lost: 19
Games as town: 29.5
Games as neutral: 6.5
Games as wolf: 11
Games narrated: 2
Deaths: 31
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2020-05-05, 09:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Crazy Idea Mafia
I know this is day 1, so you don't really have to have good reasoning behind your vote (I certainly don't), but also days are going to be 48 hours long regardless of when people vote...
(also in a game where everyone has some role, and a role they were able to (partly) pick themselves, there's probably some eagerness for night regardless of what your role/faction is)I'm Chaotic Good! Ish!
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2020-05-05, 09:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Crazy Idea Mafia
Without getting too bogged down in numbers, based on the rough ratios of faction cards Unavenger posted in the sign-up (and assuming the custom deck is similar in comp, which it may or may not be) thread we would expect about 24% of players to be dealt 3 town if it was truly random. If it was fudged away from 3 town, I think the majority of people would have 2 town with those ratios.
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2020-05-05, 09:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Crazy Idea Mafia
Unavenger, could we get the original recruitment post in a spoiler in the OP? Makes it easier to quote when the whim strikes me.
Also I might be missing it in that rule-post, but can people talk at night publicly?
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2020-05-05, 10:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-05-05, 10:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Crazy Idea Mafia
I feel like making a list of discards sorted by faction and role:
1 Alien discard (AvatarVecna)
1 Cultist discard (CaoimhinTheCape)
1 Werewolf discard (Aventine)
3 Mafia discards (Duck999, bc56, kgato503)
14 Town discards (everyone else)
No Survivor discard, no Serial Killer discard. Although to be fair I would expect those roles to be kept.
2 Innocent-Looking (AvatarVecna, bc56)
4 Protective (Valmark, Lord Athos, CaoimhinTheCape, DukeGod)
4 Tracking (Xihirli, flat_footed, smasher0404, trtl)
2 roleblocking (Snowblaze, kgato503)
3 JOAT (Elenna, Apogee1, BasketOfPuppies)
5 Investigative (gac3, Duck999, JoyWonderLove, Logan1996, Aventine)
No Killing discards. Interesting. I'll try and analyse this some time when I can be bothered.I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 28
Werewolf games lost: 19
Games as town: 29.5
Games as neutral: 6.5
Games as wolf: 11
Games narrated: 2
Deaths: 31
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2020-05-05, 10:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Crazy Idea Mafia
I was mostly just playing off of AvatarVecna's (semi-sarcastic?) idea. After all, I did discard JOAT which has both protective and roleblock abilities (albeit limited) so I'm not buying the discard protection cards = evil line too seriously.
Although seeing Snowblaze's recent post, there probably are some interesting results to be drawn from the discards.
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2020-05-05, 10:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Well,
AvatarVecnadiscarded an innocent role, so there's no way they could be innocent, right?
No, I didn't discard an innocent role. I have no idea what you're talking about :PLast edited by bc56; 2020-05-06 at 11:12 PM.
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2020-05-05, 10:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Crazy Idea Mafia
He said that we can! It was after a public question of mine.
"Valmark, why do they want you to vote yourself so much?"
"No idea, probably a secret admirer"
(Not much to say, besides pointing out that one could have gotten better powers depending on opinions. I know I did)Last edited by Valmark; 2020-05-05 at 11:05 AM.
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2020-05-05, 10:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Crazy Idea Mafia
Being a little bit more serious than my previous post about this, I don't see a great deal of value in analyzing discards until we've got a bit more information to actually work with. Like, we lynch somebody today, a few people die in the night, now we have a better idea about card distribution. All we know for sure right now is that Unavenger definitely didn't use the ratio normal Crazy Idea has, since that was quoted in the recruitment specifically to say "but im not using that ratio, im using a custom ratio to fit the exact number of players we get".
There are 7 factions (town/mafia/wolf/alien/cult/serial/survivor) and 8 powers (scry/watch/bane/void/kill/innocent/JOAT/Backup). That's 56 possible combinations people could've ended up with. Realistically speaking, their discard means that one of those possibilities is off the table, for that person specifically, maybe.
(As an example of what I mean by "maybe", suppose somebody draws Town Scry, Wolf Bane, and Wolf Scry. They discard Wolf Scry, and then have their actual role be Wolf Scry anyway. Alternatively, if Logic had decided to be Cult Backup, only to find out nobody else ended up joining the cult, then as soon as he "died", his role would instead switch to that role he discarded.)
Without having a better idea of the ratios between alignments, and the ratios between powers, any analysis based on discards is more or less the kind of divination magic you'd see in a traveling sideshow.
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I could do the innocent-looking announcement right now, have Unavenger immediately say "yes, AV is town innocent", and you'd all move your votes back onto me just in case. I threw away the innocent card because it's useless to me.
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2020-05-05, 10:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Crazy Idea Mafia
Huh, funny enough I was gonna feel a little better about people who discarded evil factions (meaning AV, Duck, bc56, kgato, and Aventine seemed cool).
Yes! Sort of! Until it isn't.
Spoiler: Basically...
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Question on the "Innocent-Looking" role. If it's Town they can claim this as many times as they want, right? So if they claim then survive multiple days, we should have them check in and make sure they weren't turned into Cultists overnight?Last edited by CaoimhinTheCape; 2020-05-07 at 08:28 AM.
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2020-05-05, 10:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Crazy Idea Mafia
Town's also the only one that can publicly claim innocent and have the narrator confirm at all. The others just detect as innocent if scried, but get no public confirmation. This is a solid plan for making sure a long-lasting innocent hasn't been turned. (Although conversely, announcing it like this probably makes them less likely to be turned in the first place? Eh)
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Apogee1welcome to Werewolf Games.
I want to put everyone's mind at ease: None of you have any reason to suspect me, and should not.
That is all.Last edited by Xihirli; 2020-05-06 at 07:29 AM.
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Would I lie to you?
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