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2020-07-29, 12:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
I don't know how to use a sextant (well, I know the theory, which as per usual is not reality) but I did learn to use a backstaff at a summer camp one year. And I was the only one to get our latitude within a hundred miles of what it actually was.
Navigation skill challenges should really be more of a thing in RPGs.
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2020-07-29, 12:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
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2020-07-29, 12:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
I dunno, cosplaying as a king may have given him some insight.
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2020-07-29, 12:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-07-29, 02:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
Sadly, bonuses aren't applicable to a skill that can't be used untrained :P
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2020-07-29, 04:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
I am not sure there is any more evidence to suggest Spot 0 compared to Roy's 'Spot Low'
Belkar Bitterleaf a
Skills:Spot 0
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2020-07-29, 08:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
That can be just the +2 bonus on Spot checks if Belkar has humans as favored enemy. Belkar is a level 14 ranger, so he gets three favored enemies for free. We don't quite know what his favored enemies are, but I think Humanoid (reptilian) and Humanoid (human) are among it, and the first post claims that #957 ninth panel means that Undead is the third and that a certain interview with Rich means that Humanoid (human) is indeed one of them. If humans are one of his favored enemy, then he gets +2 on Spot checks against that human former prisoner in #435, and the human probably does not know whether the good eye is from being in Belkar's favored enemy subclass or from Spot ranks.
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2020-07-29, 09:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
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2020-07-29, 09:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
Detect Poison disagrees with you.
You can determine the exact type of poison with a DC 20 Wisdom check. A character with the Craft (alchemy) skill may try a DC 20 Craft (alchemy) check if the Wisdom check fails, or may try the Craft (alchemy) check prior to the Wisdom check.
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2020-07-29, 01:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
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2020-07-29, 02:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
So since Knock gives you the ability to open a locked door if you don't have a key, ordinary thieves can't pick the lock. Got it.
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2020-07-29, 05:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
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2020-07-29, 05:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
It isn't - one can find traps without the find traps spell, you merely don't get the bonus (and it does help those who are not rogues).
But that doesn't really matter, we will take your point as such given that Belkar did detect the poison and identify it should we assume he has an item of Detect Poison and has ranks in Craft: Alchemy.
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2020-07-29, 05:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
This doesn't actually disprove my statement. The default is that you can't find a trap with a Search DC higher than 20. The find traps spell overrides this. The fact that being a rogue also overrides this doesn't change the default, so my argument holds.
Or you could say that he successfully read the label on the bottle. I'll admit I don't know what if any rules would govern such a feat, but we do know Belkar is literate.I made a webcomic, featuring absurdity, terrible art, and alleged morals.
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2020-07-29, 06:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
Don't like Find Traps there is also atonement which allows you to change alignments - which you can do anyway.
Or you could say that he successfully read the label on the bottle. I'll admit I don't know what if any rules would govern such a feat, but we do know Belkar is literate.
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2020-07-29, 06:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
Ordinarily, alignment changes take time. Atonement lets you change your alignment "drastically, suddenly, and definitively." The spell lets you do something you ordinarily can't do.
Yeah, I don't think that Belkar is using any D&D rules when he recognizes that poison, because none of the rules I'm aware of really fit the scene.Last edited by InvisibleBison; 2020-07-29 at 06:38 PM.
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2020-07-29, 06:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
The spell specifically says:
Note: Normally, changing alignment is up to the player. This use of atonement simply offers a believable way for a character to change his or her alignment drastically, suddenly, and definitively.
Yeah, I don't think that Belkar is using any D&D rules when he recognizes that poison, because none of the rules I'm aware of really fit the scene.
But if you want to a more technical answer backed by the SRD.
Profession: Alchemist - for 'an aptitude in a vocation requiring a broader range of less specific* knowledge' or 'and how to handle common problems' which identifying poison likely falls under for an alchemist.
*less specific in this case meaning less specific then a Craft skill.
Edit: Or the aforementioned Detect Poison item and the Craft: Aclhemy skill.Last edited by dancrilis; 2020-07-29 at 06:57 PM.
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2020-07-29, 07:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
How could Roy identify a greatsword? To the best of my knowledge, there are no rules for identifying greatswords.
Belkar identified a poison in a poison bottled labelled with the symbol of poison. If there were some unknown liquid in a cup, sure, alchemy check or spell or whatever. But a bottle with skull and crossbones on the label? Nobody would need to make a roll for that at my table.Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
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2020-07-29, 07:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
My argument has never been that if a spell lets you do it then it's impossible to do without magic. My argument is that if a spell lets you do it then it's ordinarily impossible to do without magic. And indeed, the rules for changing alignment in the DMG say that alignment changes should normally be gradual - completely in accordance with my thesis.
Okay, so do you think that Belkar, who for most of his life would be best described as a peripatetic serial killer, at some point decided to take some ranks in Profession (alchemist)? That strikes me as too absurd to be true.I made a webcomic, featuring absurdity, terrible art, and alleged morals.
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2020-07-29, 07:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
I will point out that most of my post that kicked this off was on spot checks and I said 'also there is possibly a case for him having Craft: Alchemy' highlighted for clarity, which I still think there is a case for.
But on the bottle there was a symbol of poison but the interactions - to me at least - were not 'whoa random poison' and more 'whoa very high end poison' essentially if it is the first then fine poison symbol untrained Knowledge: What The Hell He's Talking About check, but if it is the latter then it seems like some skill would be suitable.
I suppose it could be part of his 'Profession: gourmet chef' training but I don't know if I would let profession stretch like that.
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2020-07-29, 07:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
I wasn't calling anyone out in particular so much as the debate in general.
Also, this is just a headcanon, but I choose to believe he could tell how nice a poison it was because of how nice the bottle was, due to his Profession: Gourmet Chef skill letting him identify nice bottles.Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
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2020-07-29, 07:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
I wasn't intended to sound offended if it came across that way (frankly I have been concerned that some of this might have been verging into off topic areas on DnD rules rather then what characters should have) - its just I have posted a number of things on this trend recently(ish) and most of them have not warrented a comment (at least one of which made it into the character sheets), this is the first thing I can remember recently where there has been any sort of pushback ... which I find weird (not bad just weird).
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2020-07-29, 08:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
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2020-07-29, 08:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-07-29, 09:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
Sure, but last I checked (and it's entirely possible that things have since changed), the study of poisons is a significant segment of alchemy. My understanding of the 3.x skill system is that studying any portion of a skill extensively generally gives you ranks in that skill as a whole, even if your field of interest is in fact narrower than that. Roy, for instance, would likely get ranks in Knowledge (architecture and engineering) even if he had studied bridges exclusively.
It's not a perfect system, obviously, but it's not entirely unrealistic either. It's difficult to study most fields without gaining some knowledge of related subjects.
Besides - and again, I haven't looked into it enough to actually take a firm position on whether Belkar has ranks in Profession (alchemist) - I don't think anyone is arguing that Belkar has anything close to max ranks in the skill. If he has any, it's probably something like 4.Number of Character Appearances VII - To Absent Friends
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2020-07-30, 01:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
Craft(Alchemy) needs you to be a spellcaster right? Belkar technically has spells, he just can’t use them because his Wisdom is too low.
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2020-07-30, 05:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
Craft (alchemy) does not require a character to be a spellcaster, but all of the example items given for the skill can only be made by a spellcaster, so it's probably a questionable choice of skill for someone who cannot cast.
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2020-07-31, 08:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
Should she have Knowledge: Nature (knows dogs can't eat chocolate) and Knowledge: Local (No Ranks) (doesn't know humans can't shoot lightning), panel 11 for both.
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2020-07-31, 12:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
Belkar probably has ranks in a section that lets him know more about poisons for murderin' sake. If Alchemy is the best one, then he probably has a rank or two there. The "Roy could have ranks in Architecture even if he's only researched bridges" argument holds up pretty well.
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2020-07-31, 01:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
I just noticed that Xykon has Shapechange added to his spell list. If this is so, that makes four 9th level spells (after Energy Drain, Meteor Swarm, and Soul Bind), and the normal maximum for Sorcerers is three 9th level spells, so can we list him as having taken Spell Knowledge, and does that have implications for his minimum level? Does this confirm Xykon as 24+? Or is there another way for him to have an extra 9th level spell?