Kill6BillionDemons II: The Successor's coming will be followed by 108 burning threads

[mystic1110]

Rydiro's point being is that she wanted to preserve her vanity and her power warped circumstances and reality so that she could.

[sihnfahl]

Rydiro's point being is that she wanted to preserve her vanity and her power warped circumstances and reality so that she could.

Oh, I got that, but is it him she's obeying, or her subconscious self?

She warped reality, resulting in him turning into a tree that provides her fruit that keeps her looking young, in exchange for the regular murder of young women.

If her subconscious warped reality to turn him into the tree, and to make said fruit, would it not then be her subconscious that also put in the murder part?

[mystic1110]

A lot of the power in this universe seems like self-actualization; you are trapped by your power. Whether that power comes from your Id or your Ego, depends on the person. So yeah - I can buy the interpretation that Mottom's subconscious fear combined with her innate power warped causality to create the circumstances that she finds herself stuck in. A prison of her own making. As to why the circumstances are so brutal instead of just life everlasting - I think it makes sense given that the circumstances where created through fear. The fear of losing her youth and beauty and the fear of her husband. I simply think, like all good horror stories, that fear warped the expression of her power to create this worst case scenario. Then the scenario compounds itself on that fear and guilt of keeping that fear alive. The only freedom would be a good therapist .

[sihnfahl]

What's sad is that Mottom knows ....

And instead, grasps at someone who can wield the Power but isn't playing the Game.

[Rydiro]

If her subconscious warped reality to turn him into the tree, and to make said fruit, would it not then be her subconscious that also put in the murder part?

Good question. Probably hard to answer, from the things we know. Abbadon said immortality isn't an easy feat, since (human) soul flames tend to deteriorate. Perhaps squeezing out other soul flames (like devils do) is the easiest path to practical immortality. Perhaps one that Hastet was already walking (increased, brutal, literal? appetite for young women).
Most other demiurges seem to kill people personally and regularly too.

EDIT: Looking at the things Mottom did, she didnt care about the Murder part. As soon as the tree blew up she went: "There are other paths to immortality, i will find them." Implying she never bothered to do so before. So murdering some pretties, who could challenge her best looks is totally okay for her.

[Rydiro]

New comic. Wherein Allison meets Zaid.

I hope we get to see that Zaid was a confused teen like Allison was when they were together. And that he is actually kind of a decent person.

[Eldan]

Huh. I didn't have the impression they were in enough of a relationship to warrant tearful public hugging, but who knows.

[Ibrinar]

They being the last remnants of their homeworld to each other probably is enough by itself.

[Dragonus45]

New comic. Wherein Allison meets Zaid.

I hope we get to see that Zaid was a confused teen like Allison was when they were together. And that he is actually kind of a decent person.

That's already the feeling I was getting, so it would make sense.

[lord_khaine]

Yeah. Why the heck should be not be a decent person?

[Dragonus45]

Yeah. Why the heck should be not be a decent person?

Well he is male, so one assumes something will turn out to be wrong with him before things finish shaking out just from that alone.

[Olinser]

Yeah. Why the heck should be not be a decent person?

We have seen very little of Zaid, so a lot of people are basing their opinions of him from what little we have seen - namely, him pressuring an obviously uncomfortable Allison into sex, and the unanimous opinion of her house sisters that he was, in their words, 'such a creep'.

It's a bit thin, obviously, but then again we're pretty certain to get some more character info on him.

[Olinser]

Huh. I didn't have the impression they were in enough of a relationship to warrant tearful public hugging, but who knows.

Their relationship? No.

But Zaid isn't a person to Allison so much as he is a GOAL. He represents the entire objective she's been training and struggling towards for pretty much the entire story so far, so at least on her part, tearful hugging is warranted, as he represents the successful completion of the mission she's basically dedicated her life towards for the past couple years.

[Spacewolf]

We have seen very little of Zaid, so a lot of people are basing their opinions of him from what little we have seen - namely, him pressuring an obviously uncomfortable Allison into sex, and the unanimous opinion of her house sisters that he was, in their words, 'such a creep'.

It's a bit thin, obviously, but then again we're pretty certain to get some more character info on him.

Pretty sure that's been retconned as well. Which could be why there's a split with some seeing the old version first and some people coming in and seeing him differently.

[Eldan]

The version currently on the site still seems to be what I read back when, and there's definitely some amount of pressure there and she seems much less comfortable with the entire thing than he is.

[lord_khaine]

Yeah see, thats the bit thats confusing me. The claim about Zack pressuring anyone.
He backs off when she express concern. Waits for Allison to -litterally- say she wants it before continuing.
And still people find stuff to complain about?
Even after learning Allison litterally planned to lose her virginity, just because she wanted to be someone else?
Its her who are using Zach.
Also, its her first time and she is sober. Of course its going to be awkward.

[Rydiro]

Also, its her first time and she is sober. Of course its going to be awkward.

I think it was Zaids first time too (author said it somewhere). He was awkward, because he had no idea either.

[Gildedragon]

it's all that Solomon D wanted, why does he look so pensive then.
did white chain read him too right?

[Narkis]

It's what he SAID he wanted, and it's definitely not in the way he wanted it. Next page is when we find out if it was the truth or if he's just another powerhungry tyrant with an excuse.

[Bobb]

It's what he SAID he wanted, and it's definitely not in the way he wanted it. Next page is when we find out if it was the truth or if he's just another powerhungry tyrant with an excuse.

it's all that Solomon D wanted, why does he look so pensive then.
did white chain read him too right?

No it isn't. Dude doesn't believe in democracy at all.

He SAID he wanted someone to prove their worth by matching him in strength so David could abdicate without the kingdom changing in structure.

[Spacewolf]

Yea SD wanted someone as powerful as his to protect his kingdom after he left, keeping the same power structure he built. To be honest White chain is being ludicrously hopeful here, she should realise the most likely outcome for this is an intergalactic war.

[Gildedragon]

It's what he SAID he wanted, and it's definitely not in the way he wanted it. Next page is when we find out if it was the truth or if he's just another powerhungry tyrant with an excuse.

By holding onto kingship he becomes unable to reach for Royalty

[Dragonus45]

Yea SD wanted someone as powerful as his to protect his kingdom after he left, keeping the same power structure he built. To be honest White chain is being ludicrously hopeful here, she should realise the most likely outcome for this is an intergalactic war.

Ideally Solomon would remain to Shepard the new nation while it transitions to a democracy while doing his best not to enforce himself on its policies this maintaining his absolute protection whole being able to build themselves up as something greater. The reality is just that he could never keep his hands off.

[sihnfahl]

Ideally Solomon would remain to Shepard the new nation while it transitions to a democracy while doing his best not to enforce himself on its policies this maintaining his absolute protection whole being able to build themselves up as something greater. The reality is just that he could never keep his hands off.

He'd be too inclined to meddle, yes; his pride wouldn't have him as a protector, but not a leader.

[Shogo]

Or he agrees to let the people decide for themselves and they decide, "We'd prefer it if Solomon stayed in charge, actually."

[Vahnavoi]

it's all that Solomon D wanted, why does he look so pensive then.
did white chain read him too right?

It's not at all what Salami Dave wanted. He wanted to lose on his own terms. He didn't. His boner for this whole thing is dead as stone.

[BRC]

It's not at all what Salami Dave wanted. He wanted to lose on his own terms. He didn't. His boner for this whole thing is dead as stone.

What he wanted, theoretically, was to find, basically, Salami Dave 2.0. Somebody his equal in physical strength and will who can serve his role as both absolute monarch and Chief Defender of the Celestial Empire, so he could go off and meditate or whatever confident that his empire was maintained exactly as he wanted it.
His Pepperoni Steve as it were.
He didn't think he'd ever FIND pepperoni steve, but he looked anyway.

He's being asked to trust other people, at the very least with the ruling of his empire (I don't know if the system will work if, say, an elected council makes decisions, but the old God-Emperor sits around in case he needs to punch somebody for the good of the empire, and Salami Dave probably couldn't go seek royalty in that case.)

[JavaScribe]

New page.

Solomon David does raise a valid point. White Chain's request may sound simple on paper, but in practice, there's a lot of work to be done, the most important of which would be figuring out how to defend his people against demiurge level threats least they just get devoured by someone worse than he is. Still, maybe it'll give him the nudge he needed to at least get started.

What do you suppose

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Jadis wants?

[Sean Mirrsen]

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Jadis wants?

Judging by that reaction... nothing good.

I mean, those words rarely preclude anything particularly pleasant happening, especially not when shouted, especially not when shouted by someone in a position of power.

[Eldan]

So, the interesting thing to me there is that Solomon doesn't instantly panic when he sees Jadis. In panel five, he is calm. Then, something, presumably Jadis, begins to glow red, and he loses it.

So she's not just about to say something. She's doing something. Which given the colour makes me think of fire and explosions.