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2021-04-13, 09:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
Technically speaking, any event that has occurred is an event that will occur, from an atemporal perspective.
Much of the timey-wimey stuff in terms of changing the past depends on whether GG is a causal or acausal system universe. Put another way, is the time stream fixed with all events happening as predetermined, or can the past be changed by present and future actions? The not-quite-totally-canon Twitter adventures of Othar suggest that the GG universe is acausal, in that Othar being sent back in time with foreknowledge has altered the chain of events.
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2021-04-13, 10:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
May you get EXACTLY what you wish for.
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2021-04-13, 10:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
Warning: This posting may contain wit, wisdom, pathos, irony, satire, sarcasm and puns. And traces of nut.
"The main skill of a good ruler seems to be not preventing the conflagrations but rather keeping them contained enough they rate more as campfires." Rogar Demonblud
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2021-04-13, 11:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
May you get EXACTLY what you wish for.
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2021-04-13, 06:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
Re: the Dreen's (lack of) speed, in the print-novel version of that scene...
Spoiler
..the Dreen isn't really trying to catch Agatha at all. It just wants to make sure that Agatha and Tweedle end up together, which eliminates certain sub-optimal future timelines from happening. Though of course the text doesn't say what a Dreen considers to be bad.
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2021-04-13, 11:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
If I had to guess,
Spoiler: Guessthe Dreen wanted to ensure that Agatha and Tweedle were together to get them both out of the time stop, making it so Agatha can be free of it sooner and so Gil's priorities shift accordingly. Presumably this would all be to get the time stop to end sooner?An explanation of why MitD being any larger than Huge is implausible.
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2021-04-13, 11:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
SpoilerSo, Klaus did travel through a mirror.
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2021-04-13, 11:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
(I've missed a day or so, so I can't tell if this comic is early or late. Spoilering in case it hasn't been up 24 hours.)
Spoiler: current comicKlaus "did" something for the Dreen. Bets on it being the Time Stop? Now I wonder how it works in the Dreen's favour...I'm pretty much the opposite of concise. If I fail to get to the point, please ask me and I'm happy to (attempt to) clarify.
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2021-04-14, 12:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
We already had a brief glimpse of him doing that. The Dreen info is all new.
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2021-04-14, 07:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
May you get EXACTLY what you wish for.
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2021-04-14, 07:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
My guess is that what Klaus will do for the Dreen involves the Mechanicsburg Time Stop, and perhaps Klaus will aid the Dreen against the Something Very Bad that is approaching Mechanicsburg. At any rate, however powerful a Dreen may be, they are not at the power level where mortals are irrelevant to them.
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2021-04-14, 08:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
Or tangentially connected. Klaus broke it, it got fixed by someone else (he's at the center of the Time Stop, after all), presumably Agatha after all her adventures.
But what was learned helped Klaus do something for the Dreen ... perhaps allowing them to return to the Higher Dimensions?May you get EXACTLY what you wish for.
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2021-04-14, 08:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
Yesterday i was wondering:
When the Dreen told Agatha "you will come with us" during the siege on mechanigsburg
- why did the Dreen disappear immediatly afterwards?
- how far into the future do they see?
- is it really "the" future they see (in the end everthing fits together like a puzzle, all douglas-adams-like), or is it a set of different futures, and they can take influence? Maybe similar to Griffin from men in black 3?
We can now answer one of these questions: far. very far.
Well, whatever it is: now i am very certain that they did mean: "come with us to our home dimension".
If i had to make a wild guess: that home dimension *could* be similar to that of the Geisterdamen.
Maybe the other is trouble over there as well?
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i am surprised nobody seems to have proposed
- "Topologically similar"
- "Somewhat less dangerous"
as thread titles :-)Last edited by f00bar; 2021-04-14 at 08:29 AM.
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2021-04-14, 08:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
Because the ultimate aim of getting Agatha out of Mechanicsburg before the time stop was achieved. She's instrumental in ending the time stop, presumably, so it's imperative that she not be caught in it.
how far into the future do they see?
is it really "the" future they see (in the end everthing fits together like a puzzle, all douglas-adams-like), or is it a set of different futures, and they can take influence?
Maybe the other is trouble over there as well?May you get EXACTLY what you wish for.
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2021-04-14, 09:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
This puts Klaus's rise to power into some new context.
Like, it's certainly still impressive work on his part, going from a single spark with a baby and the clothes on his back, ruler of a destroyed minor house, best known as the comic-relief to the Heterodyne Boys to the ruler of most of Europa.
But if he had a pair of indestructible cosmic entities with him from the start, it certainly would have helped get his empire started.
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2021-04-14, 10:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
I like how Klaus' attitude on returning to find Dreen waiting for him is not just "taken aback" but also "protect the baby".
I'm pretty much the opposite of concise. If I fail to get to the point, please ask me and I'm happy to (attempt to) clarify.
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2021-04-14, 10:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-04-14, 11:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-04-14, 11:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-04-14, 11:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
I record all the suggestions I am given, so if you want to propose one or more then go ahead. There is no time limit, and (within reason) no limit to the number of titles you can propose. However the thread title chosen tends to be one of the ones put forward towards the end of the thread.
It is noted in the novels that he lets that go on because he thinks it is hilarious. Very few people with any sense (and some sparks) are under any illusion that he is not very, very dangerous.Warning: This posting may contain wit, wisdom, pathos, irony, satire, sarcasm and puns. And traces of nut.
"The main skill of a good ruler seems to be not preventing the conflagrations but rather keeping them contained enough they rate more as campfires." Rogar Demonblud
"Hold on just a d*** second. UK has spam callers that try to get you to buy conservatories?!? Even y'alls spammers are higher class than ours!" Peelee
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2021-04-14, 05:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
It's also very handy if your foe underestimates you. As noted, very few will these days but when the Baron started his climb to power I'm sure there were quite a few who were caught by surprise by the intelligent ruthlessness of "The Heterodyne Boys comic-relief"!
A time dam that goes BOOM when it unstops. Yes. That's what we saw happen to Vole isn't it? I don't want to imagine what would happen to the whole city in that scenario. Gil managed to keep it under better control with Tarvek, while curing his poison too, but to do that with a whole city?
And I'm just going to go ahead and nominate "Oh! You're surprised! How charming!" as the next thread title.Last edited by Zazu Yen; 2021-04-14 at 05:29 PM.
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2021-04-14, 06:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
This is entirely tangential, but I just noticed that the Baron's grumpy-face-sword is apparently Skifandrian in origin...
Which, in retrospect, makes enough sense that I can't believe I was slightly surprised by it. Face-stuff seems to be important somehow to Skifandrians (cf. Zeetha's gear and... headpiece... thing).
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2021-04-14, 09:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
Eh i wouldn't put too much stock in the Dreen giving Klaus too much future incite. Afterall when he wasn't sure how to deal with Agatha and was still working out the mystery of the time windows he didn't seem to consult them on any of it. I think its very likely the Dreen would be very picky about what information they share with him. Heck they might even be picky about what kind of aid and service they would provide the Baron.
I'd say the Dreen would only make up a very tiny fraction for his rise to power. Klaus had dozens if not hundreds of Sparks and powerful families he would have needed to subjugate. One or two unstoppable units would be useful, but subjugating an entire continent requires a massive army. Really his biggest advantage would have likely came from his reputation as one of the heterodyne boys party members. Any common person looking for a hero to stop the wars would be quick to follow to him.
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2021-04-15, 06:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
I imagine Gil saying "I sure picked a bad week to stop drinking..."
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2021-04-15, 07:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
Well, naturally. They'd not give him any information that would go down a path that would result in problems.
Any common person looking for a hero to stop the wars would be quick to follow to him.May you get EXACTLY what you wish for.
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2021-04-15, 07:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
If the Heterodyne boys are 10 on a 1-10 scale sparks, and Klaus is a 9.5, he's still overshadowed ... until he isn't.
Agatha is an 11.This ... is my signature finishing move!
"It's never good when you make a fiend cringe" - MadGrady
According to some online quiz, I'm a 6th level TN Wizard. They didn't give me full XP for all the monsters I've defeated while daydreaming.
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2021-04-15, 08:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
Being a strong spark is one thing. The key difference between the Heterodyne Boys and Klaus is something else. The boys were charismatic heroes: they personally dealt with all the problems they encountered, persuaded people to play nice and moved on - they never gave much thought to any kind of structural stability of Europa. They did not even care much about running Mechanicsburg as far as we can tell. Klaus thinks a lot more about the grand scale and long term outcomes. He realized that a single traveling hero is not exactly capable of bringing peace to the continent. Ruling everything with an iron fist might not be a nice solution but it is a solution and his key rule of "Do not make me come to you." gives much autonomy to everyone under his rule.
In a war it doesn't matter who's right, only who's left.
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2021-04-15, 09:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
They were Affable Charismatic - people looked to them because, despite being sparks, they were approachable and human. And they were Good sparks, not accidentally (or deliberately) creating things that should not exist.
Klaus is charismatic in a different way. He draws people to him because he's a Strong Ruler. He provided stability in a world needing stability. He maintains stability in a world that just came out of an unstable time. He keeps Bad Sparks controlled in his territory.May you get EXACTLY what you wish for.
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2021-04-15, 09:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
Warning: This posting may contain wit, wisdom, pathos, irony, satire, sarcasm and puns. And traces of nut.
"The main skill of a good ruler seems to be not preventing the conflagrations but rather keeping them contained enough they rate more as campfires." Rogar Demonblud
"Hold on just a d*** second. UK has spam callers that try to get you to buy conservatories?!? Even y'alls spammers are higher class than ours!" Peelee
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2021-04-16, 02:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
So this cat affected Krosp badly enough to suppress his appetite? No wonder they're interested in hearing about it now!