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2021-05-11, 09:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Optimization Showcase in the Playground: Fear and Loathing in Celestia
INTRODUCTION
With more than a decade and a half of toying around with 3.5, I’ve accumulated a lot of spare builds and ideas. While I don’t have an active game going right now, I still like to pop open my builds folder and try to refine things. Recently I decided to make a dedicated effort to flesh out some of these builds into full write-ups, and reached out to some friends in the CO community who might be interested in doing the same. In the spirit of Tempest Stormwind’s Weekly Optimization Showcase (imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, right?), I thought I’d showcase the end results here.
The goal is (usually) not to show off any fancy new TO trick, but to showcase effective, playable builds and spur discussion. While each of us has a different build philosophy, in general the intent is to create something that can be played in most groups from level 1 to level 20. Again, the goal is discussion, so feel free to discuss the build, talk about other options, make suggestions or tear it all to shreds. Also, feel free to use anything showcased here in any of your campaigns—and let us know how they work out if you do!
Right now the group consists of myself, the Viscount, Akal Saris, Venger, WhamBamSam, Darrin and daremetoidareyou. (And though this particular build predates him, Zaq also just joined the chat!*) Typically one of us writes up the build concept and possibly a stub, the others share feedback on Discord or in some of the shared documents we have, and together we refine things until we’re happy with the final product.
For this showcase, we’re going to become real holy terrors in Fear and Loathing in Celestia!
*Outdated content alert! Zaq's been in the chat for months now, it just took me THAT long to actually post this. Sigh.
Fear and Loathing in Celestia
There’s nothing scarier than rainbows.
BACKGROUND
Hey, it’s been a while! This is actually something that we’ve had more or less completed since last July, but… well, you know, it turns out we’re all collectively realizing that the passage of time is a fake concept and sometimes it’s hard to get motivated. That’s just how it be sometimes. (For further proof of executive dysfunction, I wrote up this blurb two months ago and somehow got distracted enough to never actually post it.)
On to the build. This one is kind of an odd duck, taking on a wide variety of disparate elements to create something that (hopefully) ends up as a coherent whole. It started as a way to toy with arcane archer’s ability to create absolutely enormous cones. Imbue arrow explicitly allows you to take an area spell and use the bow’s range rather than the spell’s range. That’s always a neat ability, but it’s especially fun when you take into account cones, which extend out to the end of their range. With this, you can make cones large enough to encompass entire armies, and certainly big enough to fully blanket any reasonable D&D combat map with giant area of effect spells.
We could (and did!) use this with some standard damage spells, but that can get boring after a while. Instead, we decided to focus on one of my personal favorite cone spells: fear. Even without much optimization fear is a great save or lose spell with a decent rider on a successful save, and the decent area means it can be an encounter-ender right out of the box. With some optimization, it becomes downright brutal.
That gave us a basic skeleton for the build: fear led us to dread witch, and bards are not only one of the easiest entries for arcane archer, they also are able to enter dread witch by ECL 5. That’s when things got a bit… weird. We started talking about one of dread witch’s less discussed abilities, fearful empowerment, which allows you to add a fear rider to any spell with a visual manifestation. But what about spells that don’t have a visual manifestation? Well, that’s where Spell Thematics comes in: not only do you get a caster level boost on one spell per level, but you also get to add a visual element to every single spell. For some reason I still don’t fully understand, we decided that a fun visual theme for our fear bard would be rainbows, and suddenly we found ourselves building an exalted fear bard firing off 300’ cones of scary rainbows.
Listen, the pandemic has affected us all in strange ways. Just let us have this one.
THE BASICS
- Race: Half-elf. Qualifies for arcane archer without multiclass XP penalties, and opens up the best bard ACF ever written.
- Build Stub: Bard 4/Dread Witch 5/Fighter 1/Arcane Archer 2/Sublime Chord 2/Rainbow Servant 4/Paragnostic Apostle 2
- Alternate class features: Soothing voice, inspire awe, bardic music feat.
- Alignment: Good and nonlawful.
Fear and Loathing in Celestia
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There’s certainly a lot going on here, and glancing at the build stub may make it look like it’s a bit of a hodge-podge: archery, casting, diplomancy, fear stacking, blasting, holy word optimization… But once put together, the disparate elements actually all synergize nicely. Early game diplomancy leads quite naturally into mid-game fear and blasting, which in turn develops into a decent high CL holy word spammer for lategame brokenness. Better still, a lot of the build’s abilities and feats impact multiple roles.
What you end up with is a build that starts off strong thanks to the early game silliness of the half-elf bard and finishes with 9th-level spells, imbue arrow for extreme range blasting and gigantic cones of irresistible fear (plus a wide variety of spells to work with it) and high-CL holy words as a no save, just lose that can be fired from hundreds of feet away.
As for the actual build, you’re a smooth talking half-elf with angel wings that uses her bow to fire off 300’ terror rainbows. If that doesn’t grab someone’s attention, nothing will.
VARIANTS
The rainbow aspect doesn’t need to be so heavily emphasized, and there are other ways to get holy word (or its lawful/chaotic/evil equivalent) onto an arcane spell list beyond rainbow servant, so if you don’t feel like playing a goodie two-shoes or want to go with a different theme, you’ve got options. You can also certainly lean much harder into the metamagic side of things, which is never a bad idea for any caster, especially blasters.
SOURCES
- Dread witch: Heroes of Horror
- Bardic music feats: Eberron Campaign Setting
- Inspire awe ACF: Dragon Magic
- Soothing voice ACF: Races of Destiny
- Rainbow Servant: Complete Divine
- Spell thematics: Magic of Faerun
- Paragnostic apostle: Complete Champion
- Sublime chord, Sculpt Spell, Practiced Spellcaster, Arcane Thesis: Complete Arcane
- Purify Spell: Book of Exalted Deeds
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2021-05-11, 09:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Optimization Showcase in the Playground: Fear and Loathing in Celestia
Optimization Showcase in the Playground
Former projects:
Shadowcaster Handbook
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Iron Chef Awards!
Spoiler
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IC LXXV: Alphonse Louise Constant
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2021-05-11, 11:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Optimization Showcase in the Playground: Fear and Loathing in Celestia
... wow. Coming back with quite the dramatic re-entrance, I see!
Excel sheet for 3.5 -- Native support for stacking rules and multiple forms; as lightweight as possible otherwise. (links currently broken, if you want a copy LMK)
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2021-05-12, 08:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Optimization Showcase in the Playground: Fear and Loathing in Celestia
Cool build; love the versatility. And I always love a good fear build.
I'm a little surprised not to see Haunting Melody, since with the fear stacking rules it makes a fantastic no-action-cost rider on Inspire Awe (and a hilarious one on Soothing Melody), but the build is a little starved on both feats and Bardic Music uses.
Also, I love that there's a spell called necrotic skull bomb. What a fantastic name for a band. The fact that it lacks the [Evil] tag is just icing on the humor cake.Last edited by PoeticallyPsyco; 2021-05-12 at 08:25 PM.
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2021-05-13, 06:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Optimization Showcase in the Playground: Fear and Loathing in Celestia
Very nice, Piggy! I particularly appreciate how you guys have used the oft-overlooked part of Spell Thematics that speaks about visual manifestations, and actually got some good mileage out of it. Even though it seems to be pure fluff at first glance. Congrats!
Also, for 9th-level spells for an Arcane Archer, don't forget Apocalypse from the Sky, if you somehow get your hands on a cheap artifact of Good such as angel tears!VC XV, The horsemen are drawing nearer: The Alien and the Omen (part 1 and part 2).
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2021-05-13, 07:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Optimization Showcase in the Playground: Fear and Loathing in Celestia
Rainbows are a great theme, but if you're interested in exploring others, I do have a table for it. https://chartopia.d12dev.com/chart/29203/
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2021-05-13, 07:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Optimization Showcase in the Playground: Fear and Loathing in Celestia
I got "food," which is somehow even more ridiculous as a terror theme than rainbows. I'm impressed.
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2021-05-14, 09:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Optimization Showcase in the Playground: Fear and Loathing in Celestia
Very cool build (as usual).
How is rainbow servant adding to your Sublime chord casting though? it ads its '+1 level of existing arcane spellcasting class' to a class in which you can cast 3rd level spells, and Sublime chord doesn't have those.
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2021-05-15, 03:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Optimization Showcase in the Playground: Fear and Loathing in Celestia
Whoops, good catch. An easy fix would be to take a 3rd-level spell instead of a 4th-level spell via sublime chord, but this is not RAW either, and if your DM is a stickler about the fact that you cast 4ths+, they are probably also not going to allow you to take a lower level spell with a higher level spell known slot. If you want a RAW fix, the easiest one would be to take one of the bloodline feats from Dragon Compendium. They add a spell known at every spell level to all your spontaneous arcane spell lists, which would explicitly give you the ability to cast 3rds by any definition. The feats are a bit tight but it's doable - Purify Spell is probably the easiest thing to drop, since you can avoid damaging allies with careful positioning. I liked the cool factor of being able to drop big damage spells in the middle of the battlefield but it's certainly not required.
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2021-05-15, 08:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Optimization Showcase in the Playground: Fear and Loathing in Celestia
At a table with flaws available, one feat that could be fun to toy with at higher levels is Explosive Spell. 300' cones, after all.