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Thread: Percy Jackson Mafia 2
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2022-06-16, 09:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Oh, hey, this started.
Snowblaze
Have you claimed child of Ariadne yet?
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I take this as a challenge.
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On non-Xum takes:
I know who one wolf is.
Points to who can guess and bonus points if they can guess why.
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And before someone says it:
No. No it's not Snow.
Snow vote is a meme.Last edited by bladescape; 2022-06-16 at 09:46 AM.
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2022-06-16, 09:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Alright, let's start catching up.
What reference am I not getting? If there's any?
Agreed, though it has become kind of usual to vote AV. It's an habit that really screws up reading the first wagon, as it is pointed out later in the thread.
Honestly, that does sound fun. But the amount of cohordination and trust required between multiple people of different factions makes it kinda hard to think about until endgame (talking about making gac3 win).
+1 all this.
No.
Also boooh, sore loser :p (jk)
Before re-reading the thread I thought I had forgotten some reference, but it does look completely unrelated.
Funny ten seconds though (or homewever long it was).
Both good points. Based on the quote immediately below this sentence, I'm gonna go with alignment unindicative.
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2022-06-16, 09:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Oh nevermind I have two wolf reads.
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GA isn't being voted out today.
I will say nothing more on it.
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My only complaint is the
"A troubled man ‘twixt joys and sorrows.
An optimist who shall outlive his woes."
line feels like it misses meter."Trust bladescape, Shadow of Doubt,"
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2022-06-16, 09:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Spoiler: I'm a seer
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2022-06-16, 09:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-06-16, 09:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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I'm here. Been reading (but need to reread the last page or two in better detail), but didn't want to post until I successfully got into the Discord and figured out my role/faction.
Not much to say except I don't really care for the AV wagon currently.
@gac3: does the wolf!Dionysious power actually invalidate the targeting done by whoever targets the wolf, or does it just make them get feedback like they were voided?
Sometimes this is mechanically the same.
E.g., if a seer/info-gatherer targets, they get feedback they were drunk. Seems like they were voided, and effectively they were. But I guess a tracker/watcher could still see what happened.
But if they were a vig, they'd get feedback they were drunk but would the wolf die or did the vig-shot get stopped?
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2022-06-16, 09:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-06-16, 09:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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I'm unclear on why BW saying 4 wolves is scummy? Seems pretty reasonable to me, especially if there's also a neutral in the mix again. Like I'm not getting TMI vibes from it, it just seems like BW having a decent sense for how big scum teams are.
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2022-06-16, 09:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-06-16, 09:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-06-16, 09:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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I think the idea is that Rogan asked for specifically three powers and BW answered with four. But yeah, even compared to my "case" against Elenna, I don't think it's a very strong one (together with the accidental(?) towniness of the first list, it's a little stronger but BW wouldn't be my first choice for the lynch at the moment).
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2022-06-16, 09:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Oh also yeah nah that wasn't my read.
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No.
That was a Star Wars Episode 1 meme about there's two people who use dice to decide D1 vote.
It was not wolf reads.
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This made me giggle.
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Oh and re: whoever brought up champs games, the Semis are in July/August and that's when I'll have my next game.
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I feel significantly not smug about one of my wolfreads and it feels bad.
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Me: Makes quote wall by responding to things
Also me: Do I have to read Valmark's quote wall to get a read on them?"Trust bladescape, Shadow of Doubt,"
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2022-06-16, 09:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Sure, take your time.
"Hey, name three powers" "Sure, here are four powers (and another four)"
Why would you name four powers when asked about three? Maybe cause you know there are four wolves.
If I hadn't asked for a specific number, getting four powers would not be a problem. But I did and this part was not addressed at all. That's what's bothering me.Spoiler: I'm a seer
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2022-06-16, 09:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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I'm not going to lie, I didn't even notice that you said "three" in your post.
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I'm giving no points to people for guessing the Elenna wolf read because like, several other people have said exactly that already before I even arrived and so it's not as cool a thing to guess anymore.
The other super secret wolfread remains in play.
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Actually wait.
Rogan
This is disingenuous as hell and trumps my secret wolfread.
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"Man, why would someone who was told they were 1 wolf role and told to pick 3 powers make a list of 4 including the original wolf role they thought they were. Has to be because they have TMI guys, let's vote them out and see!!!"
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Tbh I would even say that Rogan being hyper aware of the four people thing is more TMI-y than Book's response.
And even then that's a bad take and no one should vote Rogan for that.Last edited by bladescape; 2022-06-16 at 08:06 PM.
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2022-06-16, 09:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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I feel like we learn a little bit if Batcathat, Elenna, or Book Wombat die, based on how others have talked about them and how some of them have talked about others. At least, if one flips wolf, it gives some info. I don't get much feeling of learning much from others' deaths.
I'm choosing which one to vote for loose reasons. Weak reasonings, but it's D1.
Elenna died D1 last game, so seems unfair to lynch her D1 this game without strong reason.
Book Wombat is as reticent as usual, and while I find the "posted 4 powers instead of 3" as maybe suspicious, it's not strongly suspicious.
Batcathat is more talkative than normal and maybe more consistent, which could be townread (as different from last game posting style when he flipped wolf) but could be trying to be different because he doesn't want to seem wolfy.
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Is writing "Rogan" in the last sentence a typo and you meant Book Wombat? Since you are voting Rogan for that, right?
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2022-06-16, 09:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Right, survived today's exams and have very briefly skimread stuff. As in, so briefly I only half know what's going on.
- BCH, talk me through "I largely agree with Elenna's analysis except I reach the opposite conclusion"?
- I claimed Child of Ariadne in the recruitment thread. That counts, right?
- mildly disagree with suspicion of Elenna because I don't think the case is particularly strong + she was one of my tentative townleans because I agreed with her interpretation of the Wombat thing and vaguely liked her reaction to pressure. But hopefully now I can do better than tentative.I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 28
Werewolf games lost: 19
Games as town: 29.5
Games as neutral: 6.5
Games as wolf: 11
Games narrated: 2
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2022-06-16, 09:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Correct.
Who would you be your first choice and why Elenna?
Too bad. I'd feel good if I finally had a good read day 1.
Ah, okay. Sorry for the confusion.
Here, that's me! Thanks for letting me know. Glad I didn't miss anything important about Champs. Well, important is relative regarding some online game, but you know what I mean.
Sometimes, I wish I could read your mind. A few seconds later I'm glad I can't, cause I'd surely get a headache! Anyway, I'd like to get your reads with some time to spare to discuss them.
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2022-06-16, 09:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-06-16, 09:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Rogan, talk me through why you thought you were "begging to be voted" last page? Also is the "why is it Elenna" thing a serious question?
Fine, bladescape, I hardclaim Child of Ariadne but also it's purely for the memes and I'm probably lying. Will that do?I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 28
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2022-06-16, 09:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-06-16, 09:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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I sure hope not. While AV can die (someone has to) it being unanimous would be awful like you said, especially if based on the fun of it.
Initially I red it as 'If AV was a fool, what would they fake claim?' but the following conversation kinda ****ed it up for me. So @Rogan, what was that all about? I didn't get a clear detail of your reasoning.
I don't know if it was obvious to you all but knowing neutrals are definitely in game is a great plus to me.
OOOOOOOOH.
Poking an inactive and building a counterwagon is definitely a good move.
Not something a wolf wouldn't do, but gotta start somewhere. Though I would disagree against lynching an inactive (I think Cao posted later, still need to reread to there).
+1 to this.
What's a bathtub curve?
Wolves claiming their real role is a thing that happens, never consider anything too obvious.
Also to be fair, if I'm told to think of a set of three powers as a child of Neptune that either implies four people or that the Neptune child stops being one.
Given that it says 'Roman' powers though definitely not getting to pick Greek ones I think. I'm not super sure wether this is Towny as a wolf would know how it works, Wolfy for pretending to get it wrong, or null because distraction happens.
A what?
Also with random roles I wouldn't rely on the difficulty created by specific roles to gauge the potential amount of wolves.
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2022-06-16, 09:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Snow, Valmark read stat.
You were good at reading Val yeah?
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I need to sleep, so I'm going to stop spamming thoughts.
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2022-06-16, 10:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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I don't hate it, bladescape. I'm still mid-catchup and trying to make sense of events while posts are coming in as fast as I can read them, but once I know what's going on I'll try and give you a more informed answer.
Also is "Xumtiil is town for not understanding how wolf powers work" a bad read?
I was good at reading Valmark ages ago but I was wrong about him a few games back and have also read precisely none of his posts. Will get back to you on that as well.I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 28
Werewolf games lost: 19
Games as town: 29.5
Games as neutral: 6.5
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2022-06-16, 10:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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I agree with her about the possible interpretations, but disagree about which one is more likely.
Right now it's probably a draw between Elenna and you. Elenna for the previously stated reasons and you for previously stated reasons plus I can see blade's point about the BW question. Still not a strong case against either of you, but several things that don't feeel quite right (which is what Snow said about me last game and she was right on the money. ).
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2022-06-16, 10:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Also, I removed the Xum quote where he asked about mechanics because someone else replied (I think Rogan?) But I know recalled there was another reason for quoting him.
The stuff about Wombat replying with four powers, one of which completely unrelated to what Neptune would do in recruitment, applies to Xum too. Not super helpful but good to keep in mind I guess.
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2022-06-16, 10:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Oh yeah this is BHC town btw guys.
Like 85%ish sure."Trust bladescape, Shadow of Doubt,"
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2022-06-16, 10:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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*now. Blah blah ten words.
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