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2024-04-17, 12:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
I dunno, Shoulder Pads Guy seems like a frontliner too. Tarquin seems a more lighter-armored combatant with pretty good Dex in comparison.
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2024-04-17, 09:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
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2024-04-18, 03:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
I think it's safe to say that there are a variety of roles that are distributed differently for each party. Comparing the Order of the Stick with the other groups:
- The Vector Legion has seemingly more of a sharp contrast between melee combatants and casters. Shoulder Pads Guy is probably a heavy-armored frontliner, and what little we've seen of Jacinda in combat suggests she's also a melee build primarily. Lirian and Miron are obviously the unarmored ranged/support caster type, and while Malack isn't a complete wuss in close quarters either he seems to prefer to use spells and his vampire abilities. By contrast, the humanoid members of the OotS except for V are all somewhat capable of melee combat, and even their melee combatants all have or gained ranged attack options (Belkar's always been throwing daggers almost as often as swinging them, Roy and Durkon have their weapons, Durkon, Elan, and Minrah are also casters).
- The Order of the Scribble, if anything, is even more melee-focused than the Stickers; Dorukan's a standard wizard build, yes, but Serini's more a skirmisher than a markswoman, Lirian had access to the ridiculously powerful Wild Shape class feature and Shapechange, Girard was a TWF combatant, and Kraagor and Soon were fairly straightforward beatsticks. However, what we've seen and heard of them suggest they were rather inflexible and quite specialized, which left them with pretty big weaknesses once the party split up; the Order of the Stick on the other hand are still team players but also have experience in employing tactics outside their immediate niche and improvising.
- The Linear Guild are... well, it's a bit harder to make a general comparison because of how much their members fluctuate. But they're generally much, much better at punching down than up. Meanwhile, the Order has been dealing with enemies far, far over their weight class for basically most of the comic. Oh, and I suppose that their shortcomings aren't as covered as well by the rest of the team, but that's kind of what's going on for everyone besides the Order of the Stick anyways.
- Team Evil are essentially two extremely powerful casters, the MitD, and a handful of other allies, most of which are summoned or otherwise joined up because of Redcloak. This isn't much of an issue in combat, since these allies tend to fill in the martial roles even before accounting for the MitD and both of their casters have enough raw magic to make up for that anyways. Not having a skillmonkey has been biting them in the metaphorical butt though; that's why they've been held up by the first layer of defense for this Gate in the first place. The Order, by contrast, have become very good at finding force multipliers now.
I'm probably missing a lot of things, but I think I've gotten the broad strokes down.Cool elan Illithid Slayer by linkele.
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2024-04-18, 08:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
Really? The man is a good fencer, but he has grey (steel?) armor, spiked shoulderpads, grey (steel?) armored boots, and a huge spiked closed helmet. And he wielded his own 2-handed giant axe when he "replaced" Thog. A good Dex and Int feel like they fit him, sure, but he still looks like a heavily armored frontliner, to me.
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2024-04-18, 08:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
I would like to point out that his armor is glamoured so it can look basically however the heck he wants. Considering he took zero damage from Malack's Flame Strike though I'd imagine he has Evasion and it's a mithral breastplate.
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2024-04-18, 02:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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2024-04-18, 02:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
Also, Soul Muncher aside, his weapon of choice would, in fact, appear to be a little dagger (I mean, it's a +5 dagger of Collision; if it's really just an emergency spare thing, that's a bit going overboard with the enhancements even for him).
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2024-04-20, 11:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
Also, as the original point was saying, the appearance of Shoulder Pads Guy (and that's pretty much all we have to go on about him) implies even more strongly that he's a tanky frontline fighter.
And I can't imagine Tarquin would be part of a party without character speciation.Last edited by ti'esar; 2024-04-20 at 11:55 AM.
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2024-05-11, 11:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
Did we ever establish any stats for Bloodfeast? I know he's an allosaurus (see panel 4), but does that just use the tyrannosaurus stats from the SRD, or are there separate ones printed somewhere? I note that he's not mentioned on Belkar's entry, is there a specific reason for that?
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2024-05-11, 02:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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2024-06-12, 09:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
I've just been doing a re-read, and noticed that the Exarch is referred to as 'Gontor Hammerfalls' on the Class and Geekery page, but his name, as per comic 994, is 'Gontor Hammerfell'.
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2024-06-12, 10:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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2024-06-13, 07:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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2024-06-13, 07:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
Is this a reference to something within the last three decades?
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2024-06-13, 07:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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2024-06-13, 07:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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2024-06-14, 04:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
I know we have Roy at STR 29 based on him saying the Frost Giant fighting him had the same STR as him, but does that mean exactly 29 STR? Said Frost Giant was 'holding back' and was almost certainly of higher challenge than her colleagues. That implies to me class levels, she certainly wasn't a CR 9-level person. https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1068.html
What I'm saying is, wouldn't 29+ STR be more reasonable (unless we knew she had exactly 29 STR)? A Frost Giant Jarl has 32 STR just on the page of Giants. This particular Frost Giant may have had, 30 STR (plus, idk, 4 Fighter levels). Wouldn't be an unreasonable possibility.Last edited by Atomburster; 2024-06-14 at 04:14 AM.
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2024-06-14, 05:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
Barbarian seems plausible, given how Roy described them as "berserkers," but either way I'd say it's unlikely that they had only the default Strength value of an average frost giant given how the female one said they were the strongest warriors of their tribe. If we're going by RAW, monsters with class levels get the elite array for stats. A frost giant with two levels in Barbarian could easily have like, Strength 38 while raging.
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2024-06-14, 05:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
I don't remember if this is a democracy, but if it is, well, while even with the elite array and class levels it is plausible, as such, that a Giant would shore up something other than Strength, I find the above arguments reason enough to use 29 as a minimum benchmark, rather than an exact value myself.
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2024-06-14, 07:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
Elite characters have an 8 they need to put somewhere. She put it in Strength and only has 26. I know that this is an absurd thing to claim about an obvious warrior, but it's no more absurd than using Roy's throwaway comment about a giantess he has no way to know the strength score of as a benchmark for his strength.
If Roy started with an 18, added 3 for levels, and has a +6 belt, then he's got the maximum for a human of his level baring inherent bonuses, epic, or a template, and that gives him 27 at most.
Them both have 26 has the virtue of being POSSIBLE and technically fitting what we know, and if we're going to pointlessly give someone an absurdly unlikely score in an attribute due to a comment which was almost certainly not ment to be taken as precise, then I prefer it be the Furkini menace we'll probably never see again rather than a major character.
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2024-06-14, 08:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
Well that still puts Roy's Strength score as 26+ rather than 29 specifically. Maybe 26~32, since he has used an inherent bonus tome for Constitution so we can't rule out the possibility of those being in the calculations. Either way it's not going to be the exact value of 29 we have for him currently.
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2024-06-14, 02:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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2024-06-17, 04:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
She did not seem like she was raging, so I would say she wasn't a Barbarian.
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2024-06-17, 06:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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