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2024-05-12, 09:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Wisdom based monk: magic initiate
So I’ve had this idea of a water elemental monk turning things to ice. (Aside from picking a new class) what are some things to improve the build. Things I’m not seeing
I’m thinking full monk
Custom race: water/ice genasi
Benefits: +2 wisdom and magic initiate feat: Druid
Shillelagh
Magic stone
Create/destroy water
Lvl3 shape the flowing river
Concept is to create a bunch of water and turn it and shape it into a maze to help with crowds
Magic stone gives ranged option as I’m thinking of pumping wisdom to max first
Shillelagh for a main attack with a quarter staff or if Dm allows a staff made from ice
Then full monk stuff. But more of a utility/control monk
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2024-05-13, 03:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Wisdom based monk: magic initiate
Consider multiclassing into a spellcasting class like Druid or Wizard to gain access to more ice-themed spells, such as Ice Knife, Snilloc's Snowball Swarm, or Ice Storm. This can enhance your character's versatility and utility in combat and roleplaying situations.
In addition to Magic Initiate (Druid), consider other feats that complement your character concept and playstyle. For example, War Caster can help you maintain concentration on spells like Shape the Flowing River, while Elemental Adept (Cold) can enhance your damage output with ice-related spells.
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2024-05-13, 04:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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2024-05-13, 10:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Wisdom based monk: magic initiate
It may be easier to build your CONCEPT on a different class chassis and then play the CHARACTER as a monk. I played with guy who had a celestial warlock who swore he was a cleric. What we're saying is, build the thing you want to play and then play the thing the way you want to play it. Don't let the names of the classes dictate what you are.
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2024-05-13, 02:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Wisdom based monk: magic initiate
Well.. I have another build of a ranger that is pretty much a combat Druid and would probably work better AS a Druid. I like the abilities and flavor of the monk and ranger though
It’s not just flowing river ability I’m looking at. The level progression and abilities that those classes give are what I like. Compared to full caster classes. I want this specific idea, just looking for tweaks that don’t require a second class
-like going ritual caster for more utility
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2024-05-13, 04:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Wisdom based monk: magic initiate
I suggest switching Magic Stone for Thorn Whip. The damage and range are worse (no wis bonus to dmg, but it continues scaling at high level), but the option to pull enemies combined with monk's mobility (if you can run on the walls, you may be able to pull the enemy straight up for more damage and prone) can be more useful, and you've mentioned you're more interested in control....
It's Eberron, not ebberon.
It's not high magic, it's wide magic.
And it's definitely not steampunk. The only time steam gets involved is when the fire and water elementals break loose.
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2024-05-14, 05:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Wisdom based monk: magic initiate
Personally I don't see anything wrong in allowing a staff made of ice. DMG has a section for Magic Item Special Features, starting from page 141, among which there is this insert:
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2024-05-19, 06:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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