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2024-05-26, 11:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Wow. I can't remember the last time I got to witness a wordplay-measuring contest. (^_^)º
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2024-05-26, 03:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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One sees them from time to time, but usually going for quantity rather than quality (see: Piers Anthony), and lacking originality. I have an acquaintance who just. Can't. Stop. Emitting. "Puns". Repetitively. It sometimes seems to be an automatic thing: hear word X, say "pun" Y. Many people avoid him; he's lost friends and (I'm told) even shared accommodation because they just couldn't take it any more. I enjoy clever wordplay, e.g. something which ties together multiple concepts under discussion, or more than one language. That kind of complexity would be hard to score competitively.
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2024-05-26, 04:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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2024-05-26, 07:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Ditto wrt cleverness. My favorite form is the kind that takes a few moments to hit and induces a groan of pain. Wrt trying to score points... some people try, apparently. (^_^)º
Wordplay, even friendly competitive wordplay, is one thing. A wordplay-measuring contest is something else, and oddly enough it may be a form of compensation for lack of other literary endowments.
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No competition intended, I heard a doozy of a pun the other day which I can't take credit (or blame) for:
What does Titanic have in common with The Sixth Sense?
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2024-05-26, 08:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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2024-05-26, 08:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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2024-05-26, 10:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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The thing is the Azurites don't use a single color; they use a single hue. The use light blue, dark blue, black, white, glossy blue, off-white with a bluish tint. They sky's the limit, as long as it's blue.
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2024-05-27, 11:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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2024-05-27, 07:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
b. greenstone (paraphrased):
Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
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2024-05-28, 09:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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The thing is the Azurites don't use a single color; they use a single hue. The use light blue, dark blue, black, white, glossy blue, off-white with a bluish tint. They sky's the limit, as long as it's blue.
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2024-05-28, 12:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Huge U2 fan "from before they were cool [in the US]" because occasionally it is fun to be "that guy". Frankly I think my hangup on Elan and U2 is this...they lacked the drama in the 80s that I affiliate with Elan. They were straight forward, with undeniable power, and I didn't feel them as drama until post Joshua Tree and really, mostly after that...so maybe 90s U2 fits Elan better in my vision.
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2024-05-28, 03:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Really? I think they're quite dramatic. The Joshua Tree alone has "With or Without You," "I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For," "Where the Streets Have No Name." All pretty dramatic; arguably "In God's Country" is as well. And before that, I consider, for example, "Pride (In the Name of Love)" and "Sunday Bloody Sunday" pretty dramatic.
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2024-05-28, 06:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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I meant they didn't perform with drama...if just discussing the "drama" in the music itself I would point much more heavily pre-Joshua Tree. Their performances were straight-ahead...the most drama I saw was flag waving at Red Rocks. Huge changes later because bands evolve (not just sell out to the kids that thought Joshua Tree was their first album...
Now take artists like Bowie, KISS, P!nk...they brought drama in the performance...that's the kind of thing I think Elan would like, but since none of them were 80s I didn't include those options. MJ and Madonna fit nicely though.
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2024-05-28, 07:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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I think we may be thinking of "dramatic" in different senses. I think there's more of a costume-performance element to those acts you mentioned-- maybe theatrical is a better word-- but I feel like a lot of U2's music has the kind of bombast and/or heightened emotion that the term "dramatic" fits pretty well.
(Granted, I did not see U2 live in the 80s, so you may have more relevant direct experience than I do.)
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2024-05-28, 07:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yes, that is a good phrase...theatrical. U2 was intensely emotive from the very beginning, so I agree there as well.
To split a last hair (until the next one) I didn't mean (just) the costuming for the artists I indicated...it was as much the blocking, choreography, gymnastics, etc., along with the make up and wardrobe.
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2024-05-28, 08:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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2024-05-29, 03:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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I mean, most of the time Elan is just singing to a lute arrangement. Clearly he's more of a stripped-down folk singer-songwriter
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2024-05-29, 04:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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2024-05-29, 05:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Spoiler: big image
I wasn't up to taking the time to do it as a vector based
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2024-05-29, 09:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
b. greenstone (paraphrased):
Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
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2024-05-29, 12:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Elan does orchestral music as well.
I wouldn't put k-pop past him, if Rich could get a joke out of it.
Just to be contrary, I'm going to imagine in 302 that the duet with the accordion guy is a Funaná.The thing is the Azurites don't use a single color; they use a single hue. The use light blue, dark blue, black, white, glossy blue, off-white with a bluish tint. They sky's the limit, as long as it's blue.
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2024-05-29, 12:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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2024-05-29, 12:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Elan is a bard. He knows storytelling and structure along with music. He'd defo be a Gordon Lightfoot guy. Also Bob Dylan and Joan Baez.
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2024-05-29, 12:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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2024-05-29, 02:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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James Taylor and Jimmy Buffet also fit...but contemplate who those artists liked and cite as influences, and you find a lot more than just other S/SW storyteller types.
Plus, I think that is a niche bard...not every one is a S/SW...some are frontmen, some are composers...
David Lee Roth is clearly a Bard. And an A$$, but that's beside the point.
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2024-05-29, 02:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
b. greenstone (paraphrased):
Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
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2024-05-29, 03:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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If storytelling is a factor. The Temptations has to be on the list. I've never seen Elan dance, or they'd have been on the list.
Don't forget Run-DMC.
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2024-05-29, 04:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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2024-05-29, 04:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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No matter where you go...there you are!
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2024-05-29, 06:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
b. greenstone (paraphrased):
Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
Second known member of the Greyview Appreciation Society