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2010-05-25, 12:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Messed-Up Faerun #3.5 FR#
In my upcoming Forgotten Realms campaign, the Weave has gone to hell in a handbasket. Spellcasters are forced to literally cast spells with caution to the wind. All they get to pick is the spell's level. So I need something that meshes well with either Orc, Half-Orc, or Goliath. We are gonna be 2nd level
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Re: Messed-Up Faerun #3.5 FR#
If the spellcasters can't decide which spells they cast, isn't fighters being underpowered a non-issue? But if you don't want to play a core fighter anyway, try a fighter fix like Ultimate Fighter.
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2010-05-25, 12:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Messed-Up Faerun #3.5 FR#
Truenamer... For once, their kind of magic will be more reliable than that of the real casters.
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Last edited by Morty; 2010-05-25 at 12:27 PM.
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2010-05-25, 12:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Messed-Up Faerun #3.5 FR#
hmm... non-casting Ranger (CWar)? Archery path, use a greatsword for melee combat.
Don't forget you can draw weapons as part of a move action.ze/zir | she/her
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Re: Messed-Up Faerun #3.5 FR#
I would think that this would be the perfect time to be a fighter with the spell casters in such disaray.
Also, I don't think they suck, you just need to pick your direction and stick with it in your feat selection. At lower levels they are better than most classes in my opinion. At higher levels, the casters tend to rule, but you do not have that issue. Unless you see this wild-magic time coming to an end soon...
Maybe you look at the Mage Slayer feat tree to totally mess with the casters. Now you cannot cast defensively around me AND you are not sure what you will be casting!! Brilliant! Win one for the meat shields!
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2010-05-25, 12:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Messed-Up Faerun #3.5 FR#
Does being a wild mage confer any advantage?
Does anybody in your group plan on playing a caster?
What about spell-likes?
What happens if the chosen spell isn't legal for that target?
"I cast a first level spell at the orc." "You identify him."
All of this sounds like a very roundabout way to say "It's actually FR low magic, and I want you to play non-casters."
So I would do just that. Barbarian, Dungeoncrusher Fighter, Rogue... take your pick.
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2010-05-25, 12:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Messed-Up Faerun #3.5 FR#
All FR books, All Complete, ect. And all forms of casting are randomized
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2010-05-25, 12:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-05-25, 12:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Messed-Up Faerun #3.5 FR#
If "all magic isn't working" rather than "the Weave isn't working" then psionics is included (since it's a form of magic)- if it is only the weave that's messed up, psionics is fine.
Players Guide to Faerun:
Unlike spells, which derive their power from Faeun's Weave (or Shadow Weave), psionic power taps only the inner reservoirs of the manifester. In a sense, each psionic creature is its own Weave, using the magic of its own lifeforce and mind to create psionic effects. Mystra and Shar have no ability to deny psionic creatures access to powers, and they do not control the promulgation of psionic lore and ability throughout Faerun.
While psionics does not require the Weave to function, psionic powers are magical in nature.Marut-2 Avatar by Serpentine
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Re: Messed-Up Faerun #3.5 FR#
As written in MoI, sometimes incarnum seems to come from within- it's the character's own personal soul energy) and sometimes from without (incarnum wielders can manipulate ambient soul energy.)
Either way, Mystra shouldn't be able to deny an incarnum wielder their powers- but if "magic itself" (rather than just the Weave) is going haywire, then incarnum wielders might be affected too.Last edited by hamishspence; 2010-05-25 at 12:43 PM.
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2010-05-25, 12:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Messed-Up Faerun #3.5 FR#
So... Goliath Barbarian?
Or are you totally bent on not playing a martial class despite the obvious advantages it has in your current campaign?
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Re: Messed-Up Faerun #3.5 FR#
Well, you could have said that earlier. You asked for something that meshes well with 3 rather melee focused races.
What about a Knowledge-Devotion rogue, then? At higher levels, you can still UMD in the areas where magic works.Last edited by Aharon; 2010-05-25 at 12:50 PM.
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Re: Messed-Up Faerun #3.5 FR#
I'd suggest not playing. This just screams "The DM is a control freak, and will abuse this houserule to make your life a living hell."
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Re: Messed-Up Faerun #3.5 FR#
Sorry, can't help you there. I never looked into the class all too thoroughly. JaronK puts it at Tier 5, the same as fighter and paladin, in his Tier system found at BrilliantGameologists. As usual, they can be higher with optimization. All I can do is point to the Knight handbook on the same site.
Also note that this houserule really, really makes martial characters less useless. Even a normal fighter might be viable, despite it normally being considered weak.
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2010-05-25, 12:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Messed-Up Faerun #3.5 FR#
Be a class with a small spell list, like a Warlock - that weights the odds of getting what you want heavily in your favor, and because you never run out of "ammunition" you can just keep spamming until you get what you need.
Binder too - since what you get is based on what you bind (and it is also unlimited use) randomizing it won't help him very much.
No, but because it interacts with the Weave, you could feasibly stretch Weave instability to affecting psionic powers.
(For external effects, anyway. Self-powers should probably be unaffected.)Last edited by Optimystik; 2010-05-25 at 12:59 PM.
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2010-05-25, 01:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Messed-Up Faerun #3.5 FR#
As a dip its okay, but for the long run its not better than a fighter. Knight is also PHII, which wasn't on your allowed list, neither was MoI, so can we please know what is allowed and what isn't. In UA there is a wildhsaping ranger, is that randomized as well? What about binding?
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