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Thread: Small and Smart? (3.5)
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Small and Smart? (3.5)
Straightforward question: are there any small (or smaller) races that give a bonus to INT?
I've got a factotum/wizard based loosely on Winston Wolfe from Pulp Fiction, but I'm trying to make him as small as possible for some stealth bonuses. If no good races are available, I'm pretty set on playing him as a Whisper Gnome, but I'd like to see what's out there.
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2010-06-15, 12:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Small and Smart? (3.5)
Tinker gnomes from the Dragonlance setting. Also no LA.
And Pixies! Lots of LA though.
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Re: Small and Smart? (3.5)
Petal is tiny fey at +2 LA, but is listed as cohort only.
Kobolds are small, and with their Slight Build racial count as one size smaller when it's beneficial for them.Quotes:Praise for avatar may be directed to Derjuin.Spoiler
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2010-06-15, 12:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Small and Smart? (3.5)
Would Slight Build count when it comes to, say, size bonuses to Hide?
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Re: Small and Smart? (3.5)
Slight Build: The physical stature of kobolds lets them function in many ways as if they were one size category smaller. Whenever a kobold is subject to a size modifier or special size modifier for an opposed check (such as Hide), the kobold is treated as one size smaller if doing so is advantageous to the character. A kobold is also considered to be one size smaller when "squeezing" through a restrictive space. A kobold can use weapons designed for a creature one size smaller without penalty. However, the space and reach of a kobold remain those of a creature of their actual size. The benefits of this racial trait stack with the effects of powers, abilities, and spells that change the subject's size category.Quotes:Praise for avatar may be directed to Derjuin.Spoiler
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2010-06-15, 02:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Small and Smart? (3.5)
Beguiler! obligatory text
BEEP.
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Re: Small and Smart? (3.5)
I've heard whispers of this Beguiler race. Where can I find it?
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Re: Small and Smart? (3.5)
Shining South pg 60
It appears to be a rat. Small enough?
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Shamefully I don't have that book.
Also check out this link. Shows stats and stuff.
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Re: Small and Smart? (3.5)
Blue.
They should be LA 0 instead. The Expanded Psionics Handbook had them LA0 on a page and LA1 on the next.
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2010-06-15, 03:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Small and Smart? (3.5)
Lesser Tiefling (Player's Guide to Faerun): +2 Dex, +2 Int, -2 Cha. Humanoid with Extraplanar subtype.
Savage Progression Drow (WotC online article): +2 Dex, -2 Con, +2 Int. You can just skip/ignore the 2 racial class levels.
Arcane Gnomes from Dragon #291: -2 Str, +2 Con, +2 Int, -2 Wis ,UMD is always a class skill (not exactly a concern for a Factotum), no speak with animals, favored class wizard.
Dragonwrought Kobold can get up to +3 Int based on the age category.Last edited by Darrin; 2010-06-15 at 03:50 PM.
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Re: Small and Smart? (3.5)
You could try my kobold.
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Re: Small and Smart? (3.5)
Beguilers need to be Lightning-heavy Warmages. *runs*
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Re: Small and Smart? (3.5)
They also need Silent Spell as they can't form the right words for magical incantations, what with their limited vocabulary and all (some would call it singular).
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Re: Small and Smart? (3.5)
My work here is done Now remember to diversify...your vocabulary doesn't HAVE to be singular. You can mix it up between "Pea" "Pika" and "Pikachu" and there are all sorts of differeent tones and inflections to use!
I recommend going for the Elemental Savant prestige class.
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Re: Small and Smart? (3.5)
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Re: Small and Smart? (3.5)
Quotes:Praise for avatar may be directed to Derjuin.Spoiler
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Re: Small and Smart? (3.5)
On the Beguiler note what would happen if they touched a thunderstone...?
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Re: Small and Smart? (3.5)
Quotes:Praise for avatar may be directed to Derjuin.Spoiler
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Re: Small and Smart? (3.5)
That's why I added that little disclaimer at the end of my post.
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Re: Small and Smart? (3.5)
If you play a beguiler, keep an eye out for stone dragon crusaders and dwarven defenders. They're Ground-types.
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