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2012-08-16, 06:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Zinc Saucier 7: We're not Jedi, we just wish we were
This competition is closed. Here are the final results:
{table=head]Ranking|Saucier|Entry Name|Build|Score
1st Place|T.G. Oskar|Roland|Divine Mind of Heironeous 4/Cleric of Heironeous 3/Hospitaler 3/Fist of Raziel 10|19.5
2nd Place|Andorax|Karania|Binder 6/Cleric 1/Knight of the Sacred Seal 4/ Knight of the Chalice 9|18.5
3rd Place|The Underlord|Feradim|Divine Bard 8/(Divine Adaptation) Abjurant Champion 2/Skypledged 5/Sacred Exorcist 5|16.75
4th Place|smasher0404|Buono|Cleric 6/Incarnate 2/Witch Hunter 2/Sapphire Hierarch 10|16
5th Place|rot42|R. Sophie|Bard 7 / Fighter 1 / Sanctified One of Ehlonna 4 / Sublime Chord 1/ Abjurant Champion 5 / Eldritch Knight 2|15.75
6th Place|Eskil|Kindhearted Heretic|Binder 15/Knight of the Sacred Seal 5|15.5
7th Place|Andorax|Martis|Soulborn 7/Divine Crusader 5/Cavalier 8|15.25[/table]
Welcome one and all to the seventh Zinc Saucier challenge, where Playgrounders come to test their skill in the art of beautiful and bizarre (and bizarrely beautiful ) builds.
The challenge? To come up with a build that has the same abilities and feel as the Secret Ingredient WITHOUT actually using it!
For the seventh challenge get ready to ascend to the Seven Heavens for the PHB/SRD Paladin!
Our challengers will have a little over 2 weeks to build a complete build from levels 1-20 using a 32 point buy and all official 3.5 material (excluding dragon magazine, but including any WOTC online enhancements) with the abilities and feel of a Paladin without actually using any levels in it.
Entries must be submitted by Saturday, 11:59pm GMT, 1 September, 2012.
Contestants will be judged and awarded a score out of 5 in each of 5 categories;
* Innovation (Uniqueness in character concept, race, class, etc)
* Power (How powerful and versatile it is compared to the base class)
* Elegance (What can only be described as how well the build "flows", i.e not using lots of 1-2lv dips, sacrificing flavour for power or using flaws)
* Fluff (How well the characters back-stories and classes mesh)
* Ingredient (How well the build captures the abilities and feel of the base class)
Presentation would be best in the style of how the iron chef does their presentations, however any style is allowed so long as it is clear on how the build was made.
Recommended style:SpoilerNAME OF ENTRY
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For entries with spellcasting, use the following table for Spells per day and Spells Known. (Spells Known only if necessary, i.e. Sorcerer or Bard, but not Wizard or Warmage). For other systems (Psionics, ToB, Incarnum, etc.) keep track of PP/maneuvers/essentia separately, preferably in a nice neat list, similar to this:
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Please do not post details of your build on the board before it is ready, so as not to spoil the surprise for others.
Sauciers may submit as many builds as they want but please don't use leadership, as we dont want to overfeed the judges.
Entries should be submitted via private message to the chairman.
Also it comes with double prize money.
Previous challenges;
A few administrative notes:
This competition is inspired by the Playground Iron Chef Competitions and uses mostly identical rules.
Originally Posted by Iron Chef ChairmanLast edited by mattie_p; 2013-08-31 at 07:58 PM.
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2012-08-16, 07:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Zinc Saucier 7: We're not Jedi, we just wish we were
Is it recommended that the paladin's be lawful good?
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2012-08-16, 07:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Zinc Saucier 7: We're not Jedi, we just wish we were
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2012-08-16, 07:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Zinc Saucier 7: We're not Jedi, we just wish we were
I changed my mind, can I judge this time?
Illud quod aeternitatem iacere potest non mortuus est, ac dis peregrinis etiam mors moriatur.
D&D 3.5≠Pathfinder
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2012-08-16, 07:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Zinc Saucier 7: We're not Jedi, we just wish we were
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2012-08-16, 08:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Zinc Saucier 7: We're not Jedi, we just wish we were
Hmm might have a few ideas for this one.
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2012-08-16, 08:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Zinc Saucier 7: We're not Jedi, we just wish we were
Hmm might have a few ideas for this one.
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2012-08-16, 08:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Zinc Saucier 7: We're not Jedi, we just wish we were
I sure hope so, Gilded Duke. Enjoy the cooking!
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2012-08-16, 09:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-08-16, 11:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Zinc Saucier 7: We're not Jedi, we just wish we were
I am working on a build currently.
Originally Posted by Kuulvheysoon
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2012-08-18, 08:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Zinc Saucier 7: We're not Jedi, we just wish we were
I'm presuming anyone is welcome to give this a go? I'm not the systems master of some of these good folks, but I have an idea in mind.
Whadda ya mean, Orcs got levels too?
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2012-08-18, 11:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Zinc Saucier 7: We're not Jedi, we just wish we were
Please feel free, Andorax. As with IC, all competitors are open.
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2012-08-19, 07:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Zinc Saucier 7: We're not Jedi, we just wish we were
And we've got our first entry! Plenty of time for others. I look forward to seeing all the entries.
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2012-08-20, 11:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Zinc Saucier 7: We're not Jedi, we just wish we were
So I got a pm from a new competitor. My apologies for not making it clear - please submit entries via private message to myself as the chairman. Thanks
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2012-08-21, 08:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Zinc Saucier 7: We're not Jedi, we just wish we were
Sorry for the multi-post, but a day break in between posts is plenty time for a bump. Also, what kind of classes are you all interested in for next time? Another SRD prestige class? Base class from one of the completes? Let's get some suggestions.
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2012-08-21, 09:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Zinc Saucier 7: We're not Jedi, we just wish we were
I may enter. Or judge. Or get distracted and do neither. We'll see.
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2012-08-21, 11:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Nothing to see here.
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2012-08-21, 11:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Zinc Saucier 7: We're not Jedi, we just wish we were
For new competition, a ToB class could be interesting. Would be fun to see how they would do it without using (much) ToB. Porbably not crusqader though, as it is similar to a paladin.
Originally Posted by Kuulvheysoon
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2012-08-22, 12:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-08-22, 12:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-08-22, 05:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Zinc Saucier 7: We're not Jedi, we just wish we were
Oh, hey, Marlowe. I was going to invite you and the rest of the crew to compete, I know how much you like to build characters.
So a martial adept is desired. That of course means that the chairman will not present it as an option for about another 30 rounds or so, based on current IC acolyte of the skin, which has been requested forever.Blank 3.5 Character Creator Iron Chef Style Tables (in Google Sheets)
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2012-08-22, 05:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Zinc Saucier 7: We're not Jedi, we just wish we were
Heh, would you believe I only just fully "built" Bethlen last week? Although I've had her together in my head for a lot longer.
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2012-08-22, 11:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Zinc Saucier 7: We're not Jedi, we just wish we were
Honestly, crusader is a bit obvious though for a paladin competition.
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2012-08-22, 11:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Zinc Saucier 7: We're not Jedi, we just wish we were
Obviousness exists only in the mind of the competitors and judges, as is not, in fact, one of the official judging categories, but probably falls under innovation as a subcategory.
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2012-08-24, 05:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Zinc Saucier 7: We're not Jedi, we just wish we were
How are the builds coming along, sauciers?
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2012-08-24, 06:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Zinc Saucier 7: We're not Jedi, we just wish we were
Powers been iffy at my house so I haven't made much progress.
Originally Posted by Kuulvheysoon
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2012-08-25, 09:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Zinc Saucier 7: We're not Jedi, we just wish we were
Hello, sorry for my absense, things just got kinda crazy for a while, I probably don't have enough time to make a build but I will help judge.
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2012-08-25, 10:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Zinc Saucier 7: We're not Jedi, we just wish we were
Hey, motoko, welcome back. You still have a week left if you want to enter. I'll mark you as a judge if I don't see an entry.
Update on the competition: We have one submitted entry so far, I think you will find it interesting...Blank 3.5 Character Creator Iron Chef Style Tables (in Google Sheets)
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2012-08-25, 11:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Zinc Saucier 7: We're not Jedi, we just wish we were
It would be really cool to see how people would emulate a Wizard without taking any levels in it...