I Can't Believe It's Not An Index CCXXXIII - Jasdoif's Random Banter #233

[Peelee]

I believe that death isn't inevitable but is the result of flaws in basic biology that it has simply not been cost-effective to select repairs for in most species. (the fact that some organisms are theoretically capable of living forever supports my position)

Theory and practice differ greatly. And that's Ignoring that this far, no animal has ever lived forever.

[Rater202]

Theory and practice differ greatly. And that's Ignoring that this far, no animal has ever lived forever.

I mean, obviously.

Forever isn't over yet, for one.

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Unrelated:

I've been rewatching DBZA for I don't know how many times... And it occurred to me, in their parody of the Trunks v Perfect Cell, and this applies to the official release as well: Trunks' ultra bulky form does not look big enough to cost him that much raw speed and his altered physique doesn't seem like it would have a meaningful loss in dexterity.

Yeah, it's more massive, but they're operating at a level where most of their raw speed and strength comes from their Ki power and effectively doubling your ki should more than compensate for the increase in mass.

I appreciate Toriyama making a token effort to show that raw power isn't everything, but... It doesn't make sense when you think about it critically.

Anyone else ever have a moment like that?

[Mith]

Theory and practice differ greatly. And that's Ignoring that this far, no animal has ever lived forever.

On top of that, Entropy will get you in the end anyways.

In my perspective, we are all basically waves on the fabric of space-time anyways. And waves dissipate at some point.

Then again, if you are a dualist, you can disregard that perspective completely.

[Jasdoif]

Theory and practice differ greatly. And that's Ignoring that this far, no animal has ever lived forever.

The thing that'd concern me most is the simple fact that information density is finite. There simply isn't enough storage capacity in a given volume of brain for infinite memories; and once immorality has gotten you to the point where your brain is forced to discard or degrade memories, whether old and/or new...are you still the same person? Or is your "mind" now a static mass of entirely predictable responses, or a decaying mass of thoughts that becomes less and less reliable in every sense of the word; either of which will result in you being a mental husk barely resembling the personality you used to have, in an immortal body?

True, it may be theoretically possible to engineer something aboleth-style where you're growing additional brain matter and the corresponding body mass to support it; but adopting a completely different brain structure would alter how thought processes are implemented; wouldn't a literally different way of thinking, in itself, make you a completely different person?

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Ooh, we're on page 50 already....Because I can, let me attempt to give whoever starts the next thread a head start:

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[Peelee]

I mean, obviously.

Forever isn't over yet, for one.

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Unrelated:

I've been rewatching DBZA for I don't know how many times... And it occurred to me, in their parody of the Trunks v Perfect Cell, and this applies to the official release as well: Trunks' ultra bulky form does not look big enough to cost him that much raw speed and his altered physique doesn't seem like it would have a meaningful loss in dexterity.

Yeah, it's more massive, but they're operating at a level where most of their raw speed and strength comes from their Ki power and effectively doubling your ki should more than compensate for the increase in mass.

I appreciate Toriyama making a token effort to show that raw power isn't everything, but... It doesn't make sense when you think about it critically.

Anyone else ever have a moment like that?

For two, every animal we know of has had innumerable members die. If the incredibly rare few that seem to not agree, this only means we hang yet to establish a maximum age range.

[Keltest]

Theory and practice differ greatly. And that's Ignoring that this far, no animal has ever lived forever.

Statistically speaking, ive never died. Since i have over 25 years of data to confirm this trend, i think i can safely conclude that i will never die.

Clearly my logic is flawless.

[Mystic Muse]

Speaking of dying things, somebody please make a new thread and link it here.

[Peelee]

Statistically speaking, ive never died.

How confident are you about this? Human memory is notoriously fickle, after all.

[Keltest]

How confident are you about this? Human memory is notoriously fickle, after all.

Well, i presume that if i died, there would be medical records to prove it. Also, you know, SOMEBODY would probably notice.

[DataNinja]

(Let's be honest: a banana can be a hard act to follow, so I didn't even try.)

Ah, I see we're trying to sneak that in there.

[enderlord99]

I thought we weren't supposed to talk about those...

[Jasdoif]

Ah, I see we're trying to sneak that in there.

You have correctly identified how we might determine if "a head start" is misused as "did it all for you", yes A bare "Welcome to another thread of Random Banter" seemed much too dry; and hopefully the stalk stock comment is obvious enough to suggest customizing the opening sentence/paragraph once previewed or posted, as I believe is semi-traditional.

[Peelee]

Well, i presume that if i died, there would be medical records to prove it. Also, you know, SOMEBODY would probably notice.

Oh man, don't even get me started on the travesty that is medical records.

[Beeftank]

A lot of hospitals get rid of medical records after a period of time (I think the law in MA is 7 years) so if you died at some point more then 10-15 years ago there wouldn’t be a record.

[Bartmanhomer]

When I was a little boy I used to hate hospitals because of my school schedule but now I love hospitals.

[Tarmor]

New thread is here:
https://forums.giantitp.com/showthre...2#post25127932

No banana's were harmed in the production of this thread.