[3.5/PF] GitP Regulars as Alternate Class Features/Racial Class Features/Alternate Cl

[Snowbluff]

At least you openly admit it. I'm glad you're going to make it though haha. I'd like to see the end result.

Whatever, man. It'll be done when it's done.

Any news on the next "GitP regulars as X" thread?

Um, yes, about that... I have a special mission for you guys. What were we going to do next?

[Elricaltovilla]

Oh, it's Elric I haven't seen him in a whi- OH MY.

I refreshed, saw your name, and saw my gif. It made me panic a little.

Have we done Templates or Monsters yet? Those sound fun, and I need the practice

[LoyalPaladin]

Whatever, man. It'll be done when it's done.

I wan't it nowwwww.

Um, yes, about that... I have a special mission for you guys. What were we going to do next?

Uhhh. I think we'd talked about Affiliations. Base classes are good, but probably not right after ACFs.

<Ignoring Creepy Gif>

Have we done Templates or Monsters yet? Those sound fun, and I need the practice

Both of these sound like fun.

[Snowbluff]

I wan't it nowwwww.

Ugh, fine.

Uhhh. I think we'd talked about Affiliations. Base classes are good, but probably not right after ACFs.

Affiliations? That was never on the list.

Both of these sound like fun.

I feel like we've done templates... wait that was races.

New mission, someone find all of these threads and llst them for me so I can put them in my sig. I forgot to subscribe to a few of them.

[Zaydos]

Um, yes, about that... I have a special mission for you guys. What were we going to do next?

Spelljamming Vessels!
Countries!
Planes!
Animals! (LoyalPaladin gets to be an eagle, and RedFel a panda)
Planar touchstones!
Magical Locations!
Affiliations!
Evil Outsiders!
Monsters!
Base Classes!
I'm still not an ACF yet!

I wan't it nowwwww.


Uhhh. I think we'd talked about Affiliations. Base classes are good, but probably not right after ACFs.


Both of these sound like fun.

Base classes are not good. They are very not good. Base Classes are big projects. Even the easy ones are several times harder than PrCs. And then you get the hard ones which nobody would be putting enough effort in to actually make here.

[Elricaltovilla]

I know nothing about spelljammer, but I've always wanted to be a spaceship. Also, why is Red Fel a panda?

[LoyalPaladin]

Ugh, fine.

It didn't work D:

Affiliations? That was never on the list.

Threadnaught would beg to differ.

New mission, someone find all of these threads and llst them for me so I can put them in my sig. I forgot to subscribe to a few of them.

Check my extended sig. I've got a link to each one except vestiges.

Animals! (LoyalPaladin gets to be an eagle, and RedFel a panda)

This is LPA approved.

I'm still not an ACF yet!

What!

Base classes are not good. They are very not good. Base Classes are big projects. Even the easy ones are several times harder than PrCs. And then you get the hard ones which nobody would be putting enough effort in to actually make here.

I am afraid this one would crash and burn.

[Snowbluff]

Spelljamming Vessels!
Countries!
Planes!
Animals! (LoyalPaladin gets to be an eagle, and RedFel a panda)
Planar touchstones!
Magical Locations!
Affiliations!
Evil Outsiders!
Monsters!
Base Classes!

Ugh, Evil Outsiders is a no go. I'm done with evil for a while. Touchstones or Locations sounds good.

I might crack an ACF open for you, but I'm lost in thought about bees.

Base classes are not good. They are very not good. Base Classes are big projects. Even the easy ones are several times harder than PrCs. And then you get the hard ones which nobody would be putting enough effort in to actually make here.

Beeseecher, speaking of.

[Elricaltovilla]

Base classes would definitely be a lot of work. If we wanted something really easy, we could do Invocations maybe. DFA and Warlock could probably use the help, although they're basically just spells again...

[Zaydos]

Ugh, fine.

I do not have permission to view that link

New mission, someone find all of these threads and llst them for me so I can put them in my sig. I forgot to subscribe to a few of them.

weapons
vestiges
Playable Races
Soulmelds which I practically missed
Deities v2
Maneuvers
Feats
ACFs
PrCs
Elder Evils
Google stopped giving me more, but I evidently missed Spells (the OP there isn't the most up to date), and Deities v1.

I know nothing about spelljammer, but I've always wanted to be a spaceship. Also, why is Red Fel a panda?

Spelljammer is fun for the inner child. And because they use their cuteness to lead the souls of humanity astray while secretly being vile beasts from the 9 Hells.

What!

Unless I missed it.

I am afraid this one would crash and burn.

That would be the fear.

[khadgar567]

Base classes would definitely be a lot of work. If we wanted something really easy, we could do Invocations maybe. DFA and Warlock could probably use the help, although they're basically just spells again...

as some one trying to brew warlock that would be appreciated
(plus here is my unfinished soullock hope some one help)

[Threadnaught]

To prepare for Base Classes, we would require Dragons, Monsters and... Affiliations.


I'll go uh, quickly find a link to Spells.

Edit: Done. Thank illyahr for creating Rudisplorkery.

[Milo v3]

GitP Regulars as Incantations
GitP Regulars as Skill Tricks
GitP Regulars as Skill Unlocks
GitP Regulars as Gifs
GitP Regulars as Artefacts
GitP Regulars as Plot Hooks
GitP Regulars as Afflictions
GitP Regulars as Setting Concepts
GitP Regulars as Flavours of Icecream
GitP Regulars as Splatbooks
GitP Regulars as VCM
GitP Regulars as Flaws
GitP Regulars as Traits [UA]
GitP Regulars as Traits [PF]

[Extra Anchovies]

I like the suggestion of GitP Regulars as Planes. People could either write up quasi-/demi-elemental planes or layers/sublayers of outer planes.

ETA: Snowbluff, your link tells me I need permission to view D;

[IZ42]

GitP regulars as Planes or Templates could be cool. We could also try monsters in general.

[Snowbluff]

I do not have permission to view that link

Fixed.

weapons
vestiges
Playable Races
Soulmelds which I practically missed
Deities v2
Maneuvers
Feats
ACFs
PrCs
Elder Evils
Google stopped giving me more, but I evidently missed Spells (the OP there isn't the most up to date), and Deities v1.

Thanks.

[Zaydos]

Base classes would definitely be a lot of work. If we wanted something really easy, we could do Invocations maybe. DFA and Warlock could probably use the help, although they're basically just spells again...

Spells with a worse format that makes them more awkward to write out and relies too heavily on "as spell" Don't get me wrong I love Invocations and would love to do an ~ as Invocations thread, I just loath WotC's formatting decision.

GitP Regulars as Incantations
GitP Regulars as Skill Tricks
GitP Regulars as Skill Unlocks
GitP Regulars as Gifs
GitP Regulars as Artefacts
GitP Regulars as Plot Hooks
GitP Regulars as Afflictions
GitP Regulars as Setting Concepts
GitP Regulars as Flavours of Icecream
GitP Regulars as Splatbooks
GitP Regulars as VCM
GitP Regulars as Flaws
GitP Regulars as Traits [UA]
GitP Regulars as Traits [PF]

The Complete Corrupter (3 new base classes the Tempter, the Mephisto, and the Diabolist, and various new uses for skills such as Diplomacy as 'corruption' allowing you to turn people evil by talking to them), IZScape (material for adventuring on and inside the body of a monk either because you've been shrunk or because the monk is just that being), and Races of Loyalty (new options for Aasimars, Half-Celestials, and Dwarves).

What is VCM?

I like the suggestion of GitP Regulars as Planes. People could either write up quasi-/demi-elemental planes or layers/sublayers of outer planes.

ETA: Snowbluff, your link tells me I need permission to view D;

GitP regulars as Planes or Templates could be cool. We could also try monsters in general.

Planes was a joke. Just like Spelljamming vessels. I need to stop joking.

Fixed.

Yay!

Thanks.

I do believe LP's extended sig is more complete.

[Elricaltovilla]

Maybe your jokes are actually good ideas Zaydos?

VMC is short for Variant Multiclass. It's exactly as bad as you think it is, only worse. You trade out around four feats for "class abilities" from the parent class that are almost universally terrible and worse than actually multiclassing with the class in question.

[LoyalPaladin]

Races of Loyalty (new options for Aasimars, Half-Celestials, and Dwarves).

Where and when can I buy this?

I do believe LP's extended sig is more complete.

I do try to keep it that way.

[Elricaltovilla]

Don't forget GitP regulars as Magic Cards or Planeswalkers.

[Zaydos]

Where and when can I buy this?

The Abyss, and 10 seconds after the heat death of the multiverse

[LoyalPaladin]

The Abyss, and 10 seconds after the heat death of the multiverse

Are those like thrift stores... or should I be looking online..?

[Snowbluff]

What is VCM?

The tears of the innocent.

Yay!

Now, how do I make it so you can comment?

[Zaydos]

Are those like thrift stores... or should I be looking online..?

The first is where, the second is when. Though the first 1000000 paladins to arrive get their copy free when it is legally released.*

*Disclaimer: Paladins may be eaten by fiends or die due to the heat death of the multiverse before the legal release. Abyssal Trap Publishing** takes no legal responsibility for the deaths of said paladins, but come on guys you've got to give us credit, luring all those silly paladins to their doom.

**Land of Erutnevda Publishing denies all allegations at having any connections, much less funding, Abyssal Trap Publishing.

The tears of the innocent.

Stop making me want to read the PF Unchained Rules.

Now, how do I make it so you can comment?

I don't actually know how google docs work at all so I can't say.

[Snowbluff]

Stop making me want to read the PF Unchained Rules.

You don't have to know that it's the second consecutive major release that they've botched.

I don't actually know how google docs work at all so I can't say.

Okay, I changed it so if you have the link, you can comment.

[Extra Anchovies]

Stop making me want to read the PF Unchained Rules.

That book's got some very nice things in it. Variant Multiclassing is not one of them.

My favorite thing from Unchained is probably the Automatic Bonus Progression, but Background Skills are quite nice too (and much easier to fit into a game).

I don't actually know how google docs work at all so I can't say.

I'll explain how to do that with the web-hosted desktop version (drive.google.com) since that's the one I'm familiar with.

1. Hit the "share" button at the top right.
2. When the "Share with others" panel comes up in the center of your screen, click on the drop-down menu and select "anyone with the link can comment".
3. Copy the link it provides you with.
4. Hit "done" at the bottom left corner of the panel.

[Snowbluff]

Swordsage'd by how fast I am. Better luck, next time, Chovies. >:D

[IZ42]

I actually think some of the VMC things are nice, if you have the feats to drop (So Fighter, Monk, and non-archer Ranger). I personally find the Alchemist VMC to be quite useful for fighters, because mutagens, poison immunity and some bombs are pretty useful.

The combat stamina system is also nice if you allow fighters (or other martial characters) to get it as a bonus feat for free. The Unchained Barbarian is better, they fixed the broken monstrosity called the Summoner (Mostly, I suppose), the monk and rogue got a *very* slight increase in power, though the monk was closer to a wash if anything. Automatic bonus progression and some of those leveling magic items are pretty cool as well.

[Snowbluff]

they fixed the broken monstrosity called the Summoner (Mostly, I suppose),

Excuse me, sir. DO you have a summoner license? I'm pretty sure it's illegal to talk about them unless you're thoroughly qualified.

[Extra Anchovies]

The Unchained Barbarian is better, they fixed the broken monstrosity called the Summoner (Mostly, I suppose), the monk and rogue got a *very* slight increase in power, though the monk was closer to a wash if anything. Automatic bonus progression and some of those leveling magic items are pretty cool as well.

I'm really happy with uBarbarian. Finally that Constitution increase is replaced with something that actually matters.

Summoner isn't fixed, but its spell list is. Eidolons are as strong as ever combat-wise, they just get fewer evolutions (and ball of arms eidolons don't work anymore).

The Rogue changes are nice, especially the debuff riders on sneak attack.

I've been getting gradually more and more disappointed with uMonk. They're still MAD, and they still don't have much of anything to do outside of combat.