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    Yeah, education comes first

    Also, I sympathise with your hurry -_-
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    Yeah, education comes first

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    So who else thinks this would double as Rust's theme pretty well?

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    So who else thinks this would double as Rust's theme pretty well?
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    Janine is, in my mind anyway, a very frustrating person to deal with. With what happened to her when she was growing up, it left her emotionally vulnerable, so she seeks out intimacy to prove her own worth even when it really doesn't. I think that because of everything, Janine doesn't really understand what friendship is.
    What exactly happened to her?

    I got the impression that she was sexually abused or raped, for a long time repeatedly. She is completely messed up.
    It's kind of common for women to measure their self-worth in terms of attractiveness, but she seems willing to kiss men who aren't attractive to her just to "prove her worth".
    Which is not normal, even for someone who has grown up in a world that objectifies women, and who feels very insecure.

    But it seems the man who has done that to her is just considered "dangerously possessive", not a criminal of the worst sort? How can that be?

    I sympathize with Janine in that discussion, and honestly cannot understand how someone can talk like this to her when all she did was sleep with a man who was willing; even though it might not have been a wise decision.
    Normally you would expect the person who hasn't been through a breakup to be wiser, but after what happened to Janine she can't be expected to make sensible decisions for other people.

    Now, her molesting men is different, she should be called out on that, and I would actually understand anger in that context. But this doesn't seem to be what happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themrys View Post
    What exactly happened to her?

    I got the impression that she was sexually abused or raped, for a long time repeatedly. She is completely messed up.
    It's kind of common for women to measure their self-worth in terms of attractiveness, but she seems willing to kiss men who aren't attractive to her just to "prove her worth".
    Which is not normal, even for someone who has grown up in a world that objectifies women, and who feels a bit insecure.

    But it seems the man who has done that to her is just considered "dangerously possessive", not a criminal of the worst sort? How can that be?
    Pretty much sums it up. i believe what happened is that she was told it was the only good thing she was good at the entire time, with it being the only sort of reinforcement she got as she was growing up, it became burned into her mind that "if it came up so much it must be true!" or the like.

    As for the final question, most likely he prevented her from telling anybody, or anyone who was aware of the relationship, was not aware enough to know what was fully going on, and just assumed he was over protective or the like from what they did in public.

    They were also both clerics, so some "god says it's okay" shenanigans may also be involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draconi Redfir View Post
    As for the final question, most likely he prevented her from telling anybody, or anyone who was aware of the relationship, was not aware enough to know what was fully going on, and just assumed he was over protective or the like from what they did in public.
    Probably. It's just that ... if I can deduce from what she talks like that she has been raped/abused then why can't a cleric whose job seems to be healing people, see that?
    Okay, maybe he's only healing bodies and doesn't want to see the truth for some reason. Of course my deduction can be wrong, but I think he should have asked what exactly happened after she told him what this Johan did to her.

    I do hope she gets some help soon. Not just accusations, not even explanations. It is obvious explanations aren't enough to change her messed-up way of thinking.
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    There's always a degree of tue-seeing when it comes to readers of a story, we can see how characters act in private, and can take our knowledge from that. however in public the character may act very differently, and any times their privacy was interupted, it may warrent nothing more then an odd look and an assumtion they were merely doing something the interupter was unaware of.

    For example assume darth vader loved kittens, so much so that his private quarters is filled to the brim in the small felines, wich he spends all of his free time cuddling and playing with. He's still the exact same darth vader we and the rest of the star wars cast are aware of, it's just that when nobody is looking, he likes to cuddle kittens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themrys View Post
    What exactly happened to her?

    I got the impression that she was sexually abused or raped, for a long time repeatedly. She is completely messed up.
    It's kind of common for women to measure their self-worth in terms of attractiveness, but she seems willing to kiss men who aren't attractive to her just to "prove her worth".
    Which is not normal, even for someone who has grown up in a world that objectifies women, and who feels very insecure.

    But it seems the man who has done that to her is just considered "dangerously possessive", not a criminal of the worst sort? How can that be?
    For what I've read, I got the impression that orc, Quark,had her as a slave or something while she was a child, and he was the first to abuse her and teach her that she was good only as a sexual object. Later, when she was fourteen she met the priest guy, Johan, who at the beginning was nice to her, taught her how to be a cleric, gained her trust...and then pressured her into having sex, telling her that he would kick her out if she didn't comply, reinforcing her idea that people would want her only for sex.

    Johan probably was careful enough that he couldn't be accused of rape, just of having sex with female novices (he used brainwashing, emotional blackmail and the threat of kicking out Janine and Roxy, not overt violence).

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    I sympathize with Janine in that discussion, and honestly cannot understand how someone can talk like this to her when all she did was sleep with a man who was willing; even though it might not have been a wise decision.
    Normally you would expect the person who hasn't been through a breakup to be wiser, but after what happened to Janine she can't be expected to make sensible decisions for other people.
    I think Radic's anger was at the fact that Aludean was emotionally vulnerable and probably feeling at fault for the relationship ending (My understanding of "getting over a bad breakup", but I could easily be miustaken. ^_^') and Janine implied having used this to get sex. Essentially, Janine was reinforcing the idea that Aludean was only useful for sex and never for anything more.

    While indeed, Janine very much deserves sympathy and comfort (I really wish I could hug fictional characters now! >_<), that does not make the actions excusable. Janine broke Radic's trust and tried to gain something from someone, while knowing that their emotional state would make it difficult for them to say no. What has happened to Janine is a much greater wrong, but we need rights to fix that, not to ignore the smaller wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keveak View Post
    I think Radic's anger was at the fact that Aludean was emotionally vulnerable and probably feeling at fault for the relationship ending (My understanding of "getting over a bad breakup", but I could easily be miustaken. ^_^') and Janine implied having used this to get sex. Essentially, Janine was reinforcing the idea that Aludean was only useful for sex and never for anything more.
    I'm not sure whether Janine really wanted sex in the first place. She is so messed up I can imagine that she slept with him to get him to trust her, she said that "worked".

    He was emotionally vulnerable, but then, so is she, all the time. And she doesn't even seem to be able to understand that a man might actually want to say "no", so I don't think she consciously took advantage of his vulnerability.

    Of course she has, if I recall correctly, done some things that could be called molestation, but calling her a slut is the wrong course of action here. That's not what "slut" usually means.

    @Clistenes: I can't even remember an orc - read the first part of the comic too long ago I guess. But yeah, that does make sense. Slavery would mess her up like this.
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    Someone needs to supply Serrin with a Mass Orgy spell and a lot of dwarven beer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asta Kask View Post
    Someone needs to supply Serrin with a Mass Orgy spell and a lot of dwarven beer.

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    There's always a degree of tue-seeing when it comes to readers of a story, we can see how characters act in private, and can take our knowledge from that. however in public the character may act very differently, and any times their privacy was interupted, it may warrent nothing more then an odd look and an assumtion they were merely doing something the interupter was unaware of.

    For example assume darth vader loved kittens, so much so that his private quarters is filled to the brim in the small felines, wich he spends all of his free time cuddling and playing with. He's still the exact same darth vader we and the rest of the star wars cast are aware of, it's just that when nobody is looking, he likes to cuddle kittens.
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    Someone needs to supply Serrin with a Mass Orgy spell and a lot of dwarven beer.
    Can I have that spell?

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    I suppose I should have known Lix would want that spell...
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    I suppose I should have known Lix would want that spell...
    I'd've thought Lix would've been the one to invent that spell... or at least she would have already had it
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    I'd've thought Lix would've been the one to invent that spell... or at least she would have already had it
    I presumed the word "mass" was new.
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    You meant to say Janine, right...?

    Right?
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    All will be clear in the prequel~! But seriously, I love you guys and your analyses.

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    I presumed the word "mass" was new.
    It's a frikken ORGY spell! Of course it's mass! How do you do a single-target orgy spell?!

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    Well, I'd assume-

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    I'm guessing that word is considered PG13 because it occasionally means "big party in Ancient Rome," even though that's clearly not what you're talking about?

    I'm guessing it's also okay to use the word "intercourse" whenever we want, and it would still be okay for this forum, because it could be used to mean "conversation?"
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    I'm guessing that there's more leeway when it's related to the subject, and if you try to game the system, they come down on you like a tonne of bricks.
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