FinnLassie's Fantabulous Facade of Random Banter #194

[FinnLassie]

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Haikus are quite hard
Yet I still try to do them
And it sounds stupid

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[TaiLiu]

Ah, the Russian language!

[LaZodiac]

Um, not to be a downer Debbie here, but we're supposed to wait until page 50 to make the new thread

Also, don't forget to post a link to the new thread in the old one.

[FinnLassie]

Um, not to be a downer Debbie here, but we're supposed to wait until page 50 to make the new thread

Also, don't forget to post a link to the new thread in the old one.

Gah. Agh. Poo. Sorry. =(

*dies of shame*

I always manage to fail something when I try to do something big and fantabulous.

[TaiLiu]

Um, not to be a downer Debbie here, but we're supposed to wait until page 50 to make the new thread

Close enough!

[Elemental]

It's preferable to create the new thread when we have a person capable of creating one still around rather than sitting on page fifty faced with such uncertainty.

[LaZodiac]

Gah. Agh. Poo. Sorry. =(

*dies of shame*

I always manage to fail something when I try to do something big and fantabulous.

No no no no, it's okay, it's okay! I didn't mean to deflate you like that!

*puts pump in your mouth and reflates you with a bycicle pump*

[TaiLiu]

No no no no, it's okay, it's okay! I didn't mean to deflate you like that!

*puts pump in your mouth and reflates you with a bycicle pump*

Ah! Be careful with that!

[factotum]

Ah! Be careful with that!

Yeah--have you never seen a Looney Tunes cartoon? She'll be floating off over the houses before you know it!

[LaZodiac]

Yeah--have you never seen a Looney Tunes cartoon? She'll be floating off over the houses before you know it!

Right, sorry guys

[DJ Yung Crunk]

Country is emo with less class. Or watered down pop. Or Bruce Springsteen. Or Pete Singer. Or the original version of house of the rising sun before we made it rock. Totally disregards it roots so you have to progressively move to folk and bluegrass and then increasingly fringe elements of those so that you can avoid the tide of pop in those over-genre. So, sure, give me any country before about 1970, any folk or bluegrass before 2000 or so.:

You're certainly free to like and dislike what you want, that's fine, but I'm not entirely sure I buy the reasoning here. In two cases you seem to be operating on the layman's perception of the genre rather than the actual definition. Emo, for instance. I get the implication that you think it's merely defined as "sad rock music" which just isn't true. "Emo" is rather strictly a punk subgenre with its own fairly defined set of sounds, compositions, performing styles and, yes, lyrics. It, as well as its subtype "screamo", has been misappropriated in recent years because, well, the names can easily be misinterpreted. To combat that this, however, people have been using alternate names to avoid confusion (midwest emo for emo and skramz for screamo) so I guess I really can't blame you for the confusion. Still, the more you know, right? You can hear the midwest emo sound in groups like Snowing, Sunny Day Real Estate, The World Is A Beautiful Place & I Am No Longer Afraid to Die, Texas is the Reason and American Football. I bring this up because comparing emo to country strikes me as a bit silly.

I'm not going to try to claim a lot of country isn't trash, because that's true. It's also true of practically all other genres, but I digress. I do resent the implication that the bulk of country is watered down pop. If anything contemporary country (that's "since the late 60s") owes more to the then burgeoning rock and contemporary folk scenes. Its roots may be in Americana and bluegrass, sure, but it can't be compared to those anymore. It's simply on another level. I won't deny a lot of these contemporary country artists use pop compositions because that's pretty blatantly true, but c'mon dude, the end of rock most people are familiar with use those exact same compositions. So it's hardly a localized thing. It's not even that bad a thing. I don't buy this premise that featuring pop hooks and melodies immediately cheapens your music and it's a premise that, unless I'm reading you wrong, you seem to believe in, yourself (unless you clicked the smallyuk emote by mistake.) Good country rock isn't some elusive myth, it's freaking everywhere. Lucinda Williams, Merle Haggard, Gram Parsons, Flying Burrito Brothers, Emmylou Harris, Townes Van Zandt, Dwight Yoakam, John Prine, Iris DeMent, Wilco, Guy Clark, Dolly Parton. And those are just some of the obvious ones. Get back to me.

EDIT: I like music. Not sure if you guys picked up on that yet

[Amidus Drexel]

Hehehe I'm up three hours earlier than usual...*grins like an idiot*

SLEEP DEPRIVATION PARTY!
I apologize in advance for anything Amidus does under this condition.

I suppose that's true. But I think the amount in question would be too insignificant for a visual sign of corrosion.

Nah... Sugar doesn't work unless I stay up late. And then I still don't get worked up about things. Though I will confess that recently, I've had to correct myself before saying certain things. Not that anyone else would consider them bad language.

But without the river, we can't sail a funerary fleet of gilded ships!
Fine, we'll haul you there in a jewelled crystal coffin pulled by a herd of a hundred black horses.

Hrm... I wonder how much we'd need to get it to work...

Caffeine, then?

That will be an acceptable substitute.

Just wait until wildlife groups get bored and decide to reintroduce them. Personally, I think that's one of the better uses of boredom I can think of.

Indeed. Granted, most of the people around here would have a problem with that, I'd think, on account of them needing to eat something, and the options being the deer they hunt and their livestock.

I'm not going to try to claim a lot of country isn't trash, because that's true. It's also true of practically all other genres, but I digress. I do resent the implication that the bulk of country is watered down pop. If anything contemporary country (that's "since the late 60s") owes more to the then burgeoning rock and contemporary folk scenes. Its roots may be in Americana and bluegrass, sure, but it can't be compared to those anymore. It's simply on another level. I won't deny a lot of these contemporary country artists use pop compositions because that's pretty blatantly true, but c'mon dude, the end of rock most people are familiar with use those exact same compositions. So it's hardly a localized thing. It's not even that bad a thing. I don't buy this premise that featuring pop hooks and melodies immediately cheapens your music and it's a premise that, unless I'm reading you wrong, you seem to believe in, yourself (unless you clicked the smallyuk emote by mistake.) Good country rock isn't some elusive myth, it's freaking everywhere. Lucinda Williams, Merle Haggard, Gram Parsons, Flying Burrito Brothers, Emmylou Harris, Townes Van Zandt, Dwight Yoakam, John Prine, Iris DeMent, Wilco, Guy Clark, Dolly Parton. And those are just some of the obvious ones. Get back to me.

EDIT: I like music. Not sure if you guys picked up on that yet

The thing is, what most people hear of country (and indeed, this goes for most genres) is the watered-down trashy stuff. You're a big fan of hip-hop and (to a certain degree) pop, and so the bad country songs that have influence from those genres (and there are a lot of those) don't bother you as much as they would someone else. There is good country music around, but it's not always easy to sift through the crap to get to it, especially to someone who's largely unfamiliar with the genre post-1960. Of the artists you listed, for example, I've only heard of five of them, and I'm only really familiar with the music of three of them. (and it disappoints me greatly that "Good Country Rock" in your mind doesn't include Lynyrd Skynyrd. (although they probably lean much closer to rock than to country)).

I feel like we could have an interesting discussion on music... maybe 5:30am isn't the best time, though.

[DJ Yung Crunk]

(and it disappoints me greatly that "Good Country Rock" in your mind doesn't include Lynyrd Skynyrd. (although they probably lean much closer to rock than to country)).

Lynyrd Skynyrd is rather blatantly southern rock. The instrumentation can line up with country from time to time but it's closer to blues rock than anything. With that being said, Coidzor, Bruce Springsteen isn't country either. No, not even Nebraska.

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You're a big fan of hip-hop and (to a certain degree) pop, and so the bad country songs that have influence from those genres (and there are a lot of those) don't bother you as much as they would someone else.

I have no idea what you're saying, here.

[Duck999]

Just out of curiosity, what happens if someone gets ninja'd making a new random banter thread?

Anyone here enjoy words that are not known very well?
Ex:
Discombobulated-Confused
defenestration-the act of throwing someone or something out ofna window

I have discombobulated so many people b6 using the word defenestration.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

Hehehe I'm up three hours earlier than usual...*grins like an idiot*

SLEEP DEPRIVATION PARTY!
I apologize in advance for anything Amidus does under this condition.

Zoids! You too? Oh man, sleep came desparagingly late last night... (yawning)

I think I may need to shave my luxorious beard soon. It's so hot that its becoming uncomfortable for sleepy-times...

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Just out of curiosity, what happens if someone gets ninja'd making a new random banter thread?

Anyone here enjoy words that are not known very well?
Ex:
Discombobulated-Confused
defenestration-the act of throwing someone or something out ofna window

I have discombobulated so many people b6 using the word defenestration.

See thread #150 for details. All multiples get merged with the first one to be posted. Becomes even more random looking than usual.

[Qwertystop]

Wow, we're getting close to 200!

Was anything done for 100?

[Dimonite]

Gah. Agh. Poo. Sorry. =(

*dies of shame*

I always manage to fail something when I try to do something big and fantabulous.

Oh relax. At the post rate we had after it hit midnight here, you wouldn't have necessarily been around to do the job when it hit page 50. You did fine.

*music stuff snipped for length*
EDIT: I like music. Not sure if you guys picked up on that yet

You? Like music? I hadn't noticed at all. I'm shocked!
But personally, I mostly listen to jazz and classical and stuff that came out before I was born, because most modern music just doesn't sound as good to me. Except for Pentatonix, of course.

Just out of curiosity, what happens if someone gets ninja'd making a new random banter thread?

The ensuing Doom Singularity would devour us all.

Anyone here enjoy words that are not known very well?
Ex:
Discombobulated-Confused
defenestration-the act of throwing someone or something out ofna window

I have discombobulated so many people b6 using the word defenestration.

Word-hipster.
But no, I love that. Although I prefer words like sesquipedalian, or pleonasm - words that have to do with words.

[LaZodiac]

Everyone who is a musician should have the same power that this lady has.

[DJ Yung Crunk]

because most modern music just doesn't sound as good to me.

Hmm... Such as?

[TheWombatOfDoom]

All this talk of music and nobody is Boogie-ing!

*Boogies*

In continuance of last thread, I'm mostly into anything that sounds good to me. That can be in guilty pleasures, or commonly liked material. I try not to limit myself to genre's because I'm always plesantly surprised by something. Commonly though, I tend to dislike staple country (i lost my tractor, girlfriend or car) and crude rap (do I really need to make an example??).

[DJ Yung Crunk]

I tend to dislike crude rap (do I really need to make an example??).

No one could really blame you for disliking music that actively offends you. That's perfectly understandable. So this next comment isn't about you, so much, as it's more of a general statement.

I resent the notion that music that doesn't pass some vague idealogical purity test is "bad". But again, you said "I don't like" so I can hardly pin that one on you. No hard feelings, I promise.

[LaZodiac]

I think the issue is that, due to American Idol, a LOT of modern songs are slow, pop love songs. And there is only so many ways you can say "I wanna love you" with an auto tuned voice before It starts getting 1: annoying, and 2: boring.

[Dimonite]

Hmm... Such as?

Well, a lot of rap is crude and/or meaningless drivel, your average country song has about as much melodic complexity as a bar of soap, and pop - while occasionally enjoyable - is the junk food of music. My distaste for metal and hard rock is more difficult to explain, but still there.

[LaZodiac]

Well, a lot of rap is crude and/or meaningless drivel, your average country song has about as much melodic complexity as a bar of soap, and pop - while occasionally enjoyable - is the junk food of music. My distaste for metal and hard rock is more difficult to explain, but still there.

I can think of a reason you wouldn't like metal and hard rock. Screamo style music.

[Dimonite]

Zodi is too much of a ninja...

I think the issue is that, due to American Idol, a LOT of modern songs are slow, pop love songs. And there is only so many ways you can say "I wanna love you" with an auto tuned voice before It starts getting 1: annoying, and 2: boring.

Hey, don't you be hatin' on Idol. I mean, I haven't watched it since Casey Abrams was eliminated two seasons ago, but they produced some quality musicians - such as Casey Abrams.

I can think of a reason you wouldn't like metal and hard rock. Screamo style music.

Well, that is part of it.

[LaZodiac]

Zodi is too much of a ninja...

Hey, don't you be hatin' on Idol. I mean, I haven't watched it since Casey Abrams was eliminated two seasons ago, but they produced some quality musicians - such as Casey Abrams.

Well, that is part of it.

Well yes, I am infact a ninja.

I'm not hating on Idol, I'm hating on the people who constantly gush over the slow ass love songs. Give me some Under Pressure, some We Will Rock You, give me anything that has a melody faster then the dreck Justin Beibar keeps crapping out. I want songs that get my blood pumping.

Also, I should note that it's often the people who are on Idol that lose that go on to MAKE songs that are kind of like how I like them (like Chris Dawhtry or whoever you spell his country ass name).

[DJ Yung Crunk]

I think the issue is that, due to American Idol, a LOT of modern songs are slow, pop love songs. And there is only so many ways you can say "I wanna love you" with an auto tuned voice before It starts getting 1: annoying, and 2: boring.

Modern pop songs you mean. With the rise of indie labels and the focus on sites likes bandcamp and soundcloud pop is becoming an increasingly smaller and less relevant aspect of the experience. Even then I'm not sure I can hear this inlfux of pop ballads you do. I don't follow Top 40, usually, but the most recent one I can recall is Justin Timberlake's "Suit and Tie" which was hardly ballad-y.

Well, a lot of rap is crude and/or meaningless drivel

Eh... for my thoughts on this refer to;

I resent the notion that music that doesn't pass some vague idealogical purity test is "bad".

your average country song has about as much melodic complexity as a bar of soap, and pop - while occasionally enjoyable - is the junk food of music. My distaste for metal and hard rock is more difficult to explain, but still there.

Sure I can't dispute the simplicity of country but, really, it's taking after its rock and Americana predecessors in that regard. Rock, at least mainstream rock, has hardly broken down walls as far as compositional strength goes.

I can think of a reason you wouldn't like metal and hard rock. Screamo style music.

Do you mean; "screamo" the emo subgenre or "screamo" any heavy rock music with screamed vocals.

[LaZodiac]

Modern pop songs you mean. With the rise of indie labels and the focus on sites likes bandcamp and soundcloud pop is becoming an increasingly smaller and less relevant aspect of the experience. Even then I'm not sure I can hear this inlfux of pop ballads you do. I don't follow Top 40, usually, but the most recent one I can recall is Justin Timberlake's "Suit and Tie" which was hardly ballad-y.

Do you mean; "screamo" the emo subgenre or "screamo" any heavy rock music with screamed vocals.

Well the issue there is that it's by Justin Timberlake. And modern Justin Timberlake is, atleast if I recall, is kind of stupid as hell and I don't like it.

I'm talking about the screamed vocals style. If I was talking about emo sub genre I'd go Scremo, since that's a typo that gets the point across

[Socratov]

So, um, announcement, I have just made another one of my fabulous chocolate and cake tiramisu's (the recipe is loosely bad on Tiramisu and pretty much a guarantee to contract obesity, if only it didn't taste as godly as it does). Now to wait for a day and then it should be good for stuffing people at my B-day party tomorrow.

[AsteriskAmp]

You? Like music? I hadn't noticed at all. I'm shocked!
But personally, I mostly listen to jazz and classical and stuff that came out before I was born, because most modern music just doesn't sound as good to me. Except for Pentatonix, of course.

By classical you mean chamber or academic music or strictly referring to the classical period?

Also; there is such a thing as modern jazz and neoclassical as well as modern classical composition.

Everyone who is a musician should have the same power that this lady has.

You can have the exact same effect if you play "Friday" with any instrument (CAUTION: Burn instrument afterwards.)