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2014-08-08, 02:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Girl Genius XVII: And Then He Had Pie
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SpoilerGirl Genius! (original thread)
Girl Genius II
Girl Genius III: Nize Thread!
Girl Genius IV: Because SCIENCE! is my mistress
Girl Genius V: Madre de Diodes!
Girl Genius VI: Der Pestle in Der Kestle
Girl Genius VII: Get on the Slab, I Want to Get to Work!
Girl Genius: VIII: Will Show Them All!
Girl Genius IX: The Unstoppable Thread
Girl Genius X: The Othar Shoe Drops
Girl Genius XI: Ding Dong, the Baron's Dead!
Girl Genius XII: For Doom The Bell Tolls
Girl Genius XIII: "Gott's Leedle Feesh in Trousers!"
Girl Genius XIV: A Lightning Arc in All But Speed!
Girl Genius XV: The Weasel, the Spark, and the Wardrobe
Girl Genius XVI: The Wrath of Klaus
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And if one goes to snapbird.org and types in "Othar" in the 'Who?' field, all of Othar's adventures can be read on one page (albiet in reverse order of posting - Now must have a Twitter account to use).
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2014-08-08, 02:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XVII: And Then He Had Pie
And finally we're about to see what happened. Damn Friday cliffhangers.
Must say I like how this shows Bang's no dummmy when it comes to observing things. That "you were about to lie" was a classic moment for her.Last edited by Porthos; 2014-08-08 at 02:53 AM.
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2014-08-08, 02:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Well, this is an interesting revelation, and a nice cliffhanger for the weekend.
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So Gil knows he's carrying around a copy of Klaus in his head?
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2014-08-08, 02:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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SpoilerBang also covered herself in regards to the 'my son is too fool to see it' bit with the "you've been saying and doing some really strange stuff" line.
A bit of a copout, I suppose. But it works.
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I guess it does remind one just how coo-coo Sparks could be that Bang didn't immediately add two and two there. Of course, if she doesn't know about the brain transfer machine tech, that does give her a slight out. I'd have to go back and look at the Gil/Bang talk when Gil was talking about the 'cure' for being Wasped what he did and/or did not say.Last edited by Porthos; 2014-08-08 at 02:48 AM.
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2014-08-08, 03:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XVII: And Then He Had Pie
Well, well.
Another cliffhanger. Darn weekends.
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2014-08-08, 04:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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One is in the know, and one has been in the dark the entire time, but I think we've all been making a wrong assumption on which is which.
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2014-08-08, 04:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XVII: And Then He Had Pie
Don't make 'construction' movements with your hands if you are about to spin a yarn for Bang.
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2014-08-08, 04:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XVII: And Then He Had Pie
So it looks like this is a mutual, consenting, symbiotic relationship (unlike every other mind-write we've seen so far). Klaus gets a body that isn't wasped and the opportunity to keep fighting Lucrezia. Gil get the expertise and experience he needs to run the Empire, plus a ton of useful information he will need to defeat the Other. The two of them overlap on 95% of their goals, with the only major point of contention being how to deal with Agatha. No wonder they've been able to keep up the facade for two years, and it explains why they've been conflicting so badly since Agatha got out of Mechanisburg.
This does leave a question as to why this copy of Klaus hasn't been moved into a construct yet. He obviously has reverse-engineered a few of Lucrezia's toys, so all they need to do is whip up a fresh construct and dump him into it. Maybe he's super-paranoid about Lucrezia finding out that he's still working against her. Maybe Klaus is trying to take advantage of Gil's reputation for being underestimated.Last edited by Thomar_of_Uointer; 2014-08-08 at 04:25 AM.
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2014-08-08, 04:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Seffie apparently knew, while Bang, who is nearly constantly with him and plays his psychotic big sister didn't figure it out.
Are Gil and Seffie so close that they share intimate details like his head-guests?
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2014-08-08, 05:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Bang's been going up several notches in my list of "favorite characters still around and kicking" for the past few comics now, and this one is no exception. Looks like we'll finally be getting a (somewhat?) definitive answer to the Gil/Klaus situation, next comic.
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2014-08-08, 07:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-08, 07:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-08, 01:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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My bet, right now. Gil will explain the situation to Bang...and then it'll turn out that somewhere in the middle, The Incredible Volk and Higgs stopped fighting and listened in on just enough of the conversation to be a problem.
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2014-08-08, 01:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XVII: And Then He Had Pie
Don't forget that Klaus claimed to at least a few people that Gil has been Wasped. Seffie could be referring to that since it is also assumed by more than a few people Agatha is the Other as well. Which, to be fair....
Gotta love the super tangly plot that's been constructed here.Last edited by Porthos; 2014-08-08 at 01:41 PM.
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2014-08-08, 02:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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She is...kind of....sometimes.
But yes, it could be Seffie thinks that he is wasped.
I'd like to draw a flowchart, but I am not even sure how many parties are involved. What happened to Lunevka and Zola? Where is Boris? Exactly how many KoJ-factions are active? Does Seffie work with or against Tweedle?Last edited by blauregen; 2014-08-09 at 07:32 AM.
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2014-08-09, 12:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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FINALLY!!
Or not. yep, I think we'll be getting back to the train on Monday. GRRR!
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2014-08-09, 05:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Gah, the cliffhanger...
Figuring that Klaus somehow figured out he was Wasped, and acted to take himself out of the picture by writing his un-wasped mind into Gil's so that he can accomplish the twin goals of re-establishing dominance over Europa after his convalescence and de-wasping him. As mentioned above, the goals tend to be in-line on everything but Agatha, and for the two years she was out of the picture all was going well... or as well as can be expected for the Baron of Sparkland.Avatar by Elder Tsofu
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2014-08-10, 05:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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That part was pretty easy, especially since Lucrezia outright told him he was wasped moments after the deed was done.
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2014-08-10, 08:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-11, 03:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Awwwww. Bang really does care.
ALSO: Cheyenne interlude coming up? Should be fun. Always like to see his work get more exposure.Last edited by Porthos; 2014-08-11 at 03:58 AM.
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2014-08-11, 04:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Everybody blames Gil. He'll snap once he fails to rescue Tarvek or Klaus from Mechanicsburg and will go into destroyer mode, until our heroine comes back and restores hope.
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2014-08-11, 04:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Welp.
Confirmation of what we already surmised, I guess.
It does seem to imply that an un-wasped Klaus is in the back of Gil's head, since they're at war with the Other. Unless that's also a shell game...
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2014-08-11, 05:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-11, 06:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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I think this is where Bang might go rouge on Gil. For his own good of course.
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2014-08-11, 07:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-11, 08:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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IN-teresting. Assuming the copy of Klaus in Gil's head can communicate with him, either it hasn't told Gil that Klaus was the one who was WASPed, or Gil is not telling Bang that, for some reason. Lu's stricture on Klaus not to tell anyone he's under her control would, logically, not extend to a copy of his mind that's free of the biological control of the WASP.
Maybe.
Well, yes. It's been pretty clear she's like Gil's abusive - but concerned - older sister for a while now.
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2014-08-11, 08:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Gil already told Bang his suspicions. She either believes him now, or not. If not, telling her again would do nothing to make her trust him.
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