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2018-10-05, 03:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Schlock Mercenary VIII: insAIne in the mAInfrAIme
I think I tend toward the "they were to rich to need to work, so the author made them broke because the story needs them working" view of the current situation. It's unfortunate, but that seems to be the situation we have.
The end of what Son? The story? There is no end. There's just the point where the storytellers stop talking.
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2018-10-05, 09:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Schlock Mercenary VIII: insAIne in the mAInfrAIme
Hey, Schlock might be a little smarter than we expected.
Or, would that be Wisdom? Knowing the words should be there, without knowing the words themselves.Not "fire at". I never used the word "at"
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2018-10-07, 12:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Schlock Mercenary VIII: insAIne in the mAInfrAIme
So is the voice that MiniChinook listens to CrazyChinook? The font seems to indicate so, but it's a little unclear.
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2018-10-07, 01:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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2018-10-07, 01:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Schlock Mercenary VIII: insAIne in the mAInfrAIme
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2018-10-07, 01:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Schlock Mercenary VIII: insAIne in the mAInfrAIme
Ennesby is the only familiar voice. IceBox Chinook didn't even recognize the crazy version of her which shows how messed up they are.
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2018-10-07, 01:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Schlock Mercenary VIII: insAIne in the mAInfrAIme
Ah, I see the bubble connector now. Thanks.
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2018-10-07, 03:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Schlock Mercenary VIII: insAIne in the mAInfrAIme
Wasn't CrazyChinook saying "stand still"? I think Crazy is trying to wipe out all the remaining "pre-Oafan-Hardware-memory-edit" copies.
I think Enesby was the one telling her to RUN, he was the one who was trying to warn her that her position was compromised, and if anyone would be a familiar voice it would be him. CrazyChinook isn't CrazyTAGII, and the Oafan AI is from post-wakeup.It is one thing to suspend your disbelief. It is another thing entirely to hang it by the neck until dead.
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2018-10-07, 05:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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2018-10-07, 06:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Schlock Mercenary VIII: insAIne in the mAInfrAIme
And for good reason; the Oafans could use those to force the outcome they wanted. Crazy wants to be destroyed or freed. Crazy knows they won't free, and the Oafans took care not to destroy, and instead went for capture. That leaves option 3 ... using a backup to force a recovery.
Which is what Ennesby is trying for. The, erm, 'legal guardians' in Crazy's case are the Toughs. Kind of like when a mental patient refuses to comply with treatment. It's a whole lot easier when a legal guardian allows a doctor to treat against the patient's wishes...May you get EXACTLY what you wish for.
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2018-10-08, 04:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Schlock Mercenary VIII: insAIne in the mAInfrAIme
I think the legal guardian is the still sane copy it could be considered next of kin.
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2018-10-08, 08:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Schlock Mercenary VIII: insAIne in the mAInfrAIme
Putzho has it as Ennesby and the Toughs.
And technically, the sane copy IS Chinook. Just ... a younger, not-insane version. I don't think next-of-kin covers 'same person, different personality'.May you get EXACTLY what you wish for.
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2018-10-08, 09:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Schlock Mercenary VIII: insAIne in the mAInfrAIme
If the Oafans have CrazyChinook contained, then are these current messages and long-gun shots coming from remote copies that were overwritten during updates before CrazyChinook was contained?
Also, I wonder if "icebox" Chinooks can't be overwritten, just updated with new data -- and if that's why CrazyChinook(s) are trying to destroy them.Last edited by Max_Killjoy; 2018-10-08 at 10:55 AM. Reason: edit-o
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2018-10-08, 09:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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2018-10-08, 10:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Schlock Mercenary VIII: insAIne in the mAInfrAIme
Yep. Chinook sent out a bunch of long guns and spotters.
Okay, which legal body would have jurisdiction over the Oafans?May you get EXACTLY what you wish for.
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2018-10-08, 12:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Schlock Mercenary VIII: insAIne in the mAInfrAIme
The Oafans appear to be working under a rule of the gun system, but we are discussing the term 'next of kin' in the first place, which means they are sticking with some kind of legal framework. It appears that there is some galaxy-wide body of legal work that conveniently maps to our 'Earthian' legal system. Given that we currently don't have any precedent-setting situations where someone could be 'same person, different personality' (I guess written medical directives for what to do when a person later is without autonomy), it is an untested legal domain here now in real life.
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2018-10-08, 12:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Schlock Mercenary VIII: insAIne in the mAInfrAIme
Their own? They ARE a society with a lot of AI, which probably gives them 'personhood' rather than a possession.
It appears that there is some galaxy-wide body of legal work that conveniently maps to our 'Earthian' legal system.
The only method to enforce said laws on a non-signatory is by force of arms...
Oh, and ... how did they ask the UNS for their ship back? Not a legal appeal ... 'hey, look, you're completely outnumbered here'.Last edited by sihnfahl; 2018-10-08 at 12:37 PM.
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2018-10-08, 07:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Schlock Mercenary VIII: insAIne in the mAInfrAIme
Yes, we got it. Everyone is well aware that they are using rule of extensive military might. It's been all we've discussed for the past 2-3 weeks. I even alluded to it. I don't know why that's relevant to the current discussion.
My point is they are asking for decisions made by Chinook's "next of kin," which is an Earthian legal concept, or one that maps to a legal framework conveniently similar to ours. Our own (IRL) framework, however, does not have an established precedent for 'same person, different personality,' since we don't have anything like that.
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2018-10-09, 01:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Schlock Mercenary VIII: insAIne in the mAInfrAIme
To be fair Putzho was the one to mention next of kin. The Oafans never said anything about it.
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2018-10-09, 02:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Schlock Mercenary VIII: insAIne in the mAInfrAIme
Also, I wonder if "icebox" Chinooks can't be overwritten, just updated with new data -- and if that's why CrazyChinook(s) are trying to destroy them.Last edited by smuchmuch; 2018-10-09 at 02:34 PM.
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2018-10-09, 10:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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2018-10-10, 08:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Schlock Mercenary VIII: insAIne in the mAInfrAIme
And the ancient Oafans provide yet more reasons to dislike them. I didn't think that was possible.
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2018-10-10, 10:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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2018-10-11, 10:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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2018-10-11, 10:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Schlock Mercenary VIII: insAIne in the mAInfrAIme
Speaking of Oafeans, debt, and motivation... does anyone remember reading this strip before?
https://www.schlockmercenary.com/2018-07-22
Somehow I completely missed it on my original daily new-comic reading and it provides most of the abridging context between the introduction to the ancient Oafan and the introduction of their debt collector fleet. How Chinnook was contained, why there are lots of Chinnook fragments still running around shooting stuff, why Putzho now has a new font, etc.
Just curious if I'm the only one who missed it or if the server was down that day.
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2018-10-12, 07:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Schlock Mercenary VIII: insAIne in the mAInfrAIme
Don't mind at all to see the old Ofan's get shown they aren't as smart as they think they are.
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2018-10-12, 07:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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May you get EXACTLY what you wish for.
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2018-10-12, 08:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Schlock Mercenary VIII: insAIne in the mAInfrAIme
Chinook is back, too.
I don't think the awakened Oafans quite yet grasp that they're dealing with a small group of AI and AI-like entities that range from brilliant to off-the-scale in terms of smarts, and for most of them a long history of working together.
(Ennesby, Chinook, Petey, Cindy, and now Putzho, and I think I'm forgetting one.)Last edited by Max_Killjoy; 2018-10-12 at 09:01 AM.
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2018-10-12, 09:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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2018-10-12, 01:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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