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2021-03-20, 12:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: UPick
Also AV Jeenleen is scum. He was just killed.
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2021-03-20, 12:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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You're mixing up avatars, I think. Aleph Null is the one who claimed to know that Light Yagami is a definite mafia member.
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I'm aware. That's why I'm speculating about the Xihirli thing. Xihirli being scum only makes sense for a very convoluted set-up that seems impossibly unfair to town.
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2021-03-20, 12:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: UPick
Right Yeah, Sorry. But I'm going to take the Disintegration as definitive proof i'm Town. Since Green is Town.
And Yeah, Third Scum who? We've just eliminated 2 now let's find the last. Also I suspect since I actually learned about that aspect, it's not that I don't get all the powers, It's just that I don't know about the ones I can't know about off the bat. Since The Matter Disintegration is obvious, but the revealing I'm town isn't.
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Captain Cap
Xihirli
Elenna
Aleph Null
Book Wombat
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2021-03-20, 12:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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JeenLeen's power was definitely responsible for the kill, and I actually now understand why I was targeted: wolves wanted me dead, but wanted to dodge any banes, and that was the actual purpose of JeenLeen's ability. The whole thing about being a beast was a bluff. Mind you, I still think you personally took a huge risk by disintegrating him without knowing that for sure.
I know you're town, and you know I'm neutral. Neither of us can be a third wolf.
Xihirli is clear in my mind. Apogee targeted them, and that targeting was made public. It only makes sense if it's distancing, but that would require Xihirli's power to make certain things public. (Which...she did have a public thing as part of the EoN1 text, but I don't think that's proof that scum!Xihirli and scum!Apogee were using it on purpose to distance.)
Captain Cap, I'm still really feeling like they're town. JeenLeen's actions look like very obvious distancing with Captain Cap, and that makes me think that it's JeenLeen trying to make us think he's distancing from Cap (in effect, putting Cap in his own pocket, so that we lynch Cap by mistake). But I can't be sure, cuz it could just be wolves panic-distancing.
Aleph Null...I'm not sure about. On the one hand, if they're scum, they hardcore threw JeenLeen under the bus instead of arguing against my rather absurd power claims. On the other hand, their character is completely made up so it's difficult to know if their power claims make sense for the character. And while they've made power claims, those power claims would be very convenient for a townie and very inconvenient for a wolf (can only be killed by the lynch, has a nightkill that can literally only target scum). I still feel weird about shooting here though, since they were pretty helpful in getting the wolves taken out.
Book Wombat dropped off the face of the earth for most of D2 so far. Literally no idea what to make of them.
Elenna, I'm worried about. Let's speak a bit frankly tot: you know her role name, I know her role name, and we both know the other knows her role name. There's a very obvious power that role could have that doesn't usually get a big spotlight. She's claimed to have a very powerful power, and that obvious power that fits her role could very easily be quite powerful indeed. The thing is, that power in the hands of town is potentially extremely dangerous for scumteam in the case of sour grapes, while in the hands of scum, it's a very potent information-gathering power (especially if town doesn't know that a scumplayer has it). If elenna is that role, and has that power, and is scum, that's pretty dangerous for town. That being said, Elenna's actions haven't really given me any reason to suspect her.
What are your thoughts?
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I can't say I'd do anything else in this situation. You really hit the jackpot copying my powers.
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2021-03-20, 12:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-03-20, 12:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: UPick
FWIW, I brought that up in my previous post, yeah. And it's definitely a Xihirli kinda move.
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2021-03-20, 12:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-03-20, 01:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-03-20, 01:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: UPick
Yeah with your kill the roles are assigned.
And Yes Absolutely Elenna's Role is incredibly powerful fromn what I imagine it to be, far better in the late game, though with high kill counts we are effectively in the late game.
I Actually trust your reads, far more then my own. However this is my summation of the people.
Ultimately it lies down to 3 people. One is Elenna, The Second Bookwombat, and The third Aleph Null. Of The Three my opinion is we should lynch
Aleph Null, see about ending the other two tomorrow. Namely, specificity. It's too unlikely in my opinion that the roles seeing what they are now, would have someone with such specificity. It doesn't make sense to me. It's not only quite strong, but gives hin a scape goat.
Finally Bookwombat the quietest player, I actually believe what they did day 1 was a ploy, rp is an easy way to not only get yourself not voted up day 1, but also allow you to not be lynched assuming a fairly active town.
While Elenna has the most sus role, roles don't determine alignment. Just look at me for an example. Alignment is taken care of before roles, thus it's irrelevant obvious answer to the power doesn't mean squat to their abilities.
Now for the others.
Captain Cap, would be my fourth target. His plan while it did make me think he was sus at the time is likely just an idiot town.
Xihirli would be my fifth. I just have no real reads on them, This causes me to not suspect them, but the ploy just doesn't seem to be a good idea like at all.
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Seeing as how I think we should lynch Aleph Null. I'm actually going to vote for them.
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2021-03-20, 01:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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I mean, if Xihirli was a scumbuddy then Apogee would obviously know Xihirli's powers, and I presume Xi's powers are the reason the scry was public, so I guess it could be distancing? Does seem like a really weird wolf move, though.
Yep.
...I don't know what power you're talking about but it's not the one I have.
(Also, when I said "very powerful", maybe I was overstating it a bit. It's a nice power, I like it, but it's not as powerful as totadile's, and it's definitely not as powerful as AV's.)
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how were there FIVE NINJAS while I was writing that postI'm Chaotic Good! Ish!
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2021-03-20, 01:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Posts 79 totadileplayz
Posts 67 AvatarVecna
Posts 15 Captain Cap
Posts 15 Apogee1
Posts 13 JeenLeen
Posts 12 Elenna
Posts 11 Aleph Null
Posts 10 Book Wombat
Posts 10 Xihirli
Posts 10 Unavenger
Posts 8 CaoimhinTheCape
Holy **** it's a good thing I've got errands today. Apparently I really need to shut up and let other people talk lol
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2021-03-20, 01:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-03-20, 01:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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You do presume that my powers are why the targeting was public.
But joke's on you, I have no idea why it was public.Spoiler: Check Out my Writing!
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2021-03-20, 01:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-03-20, 01:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: UPick
Yeah that's basically why I said it would be a really weird wolf move.
Okay so possible third wolves are Captain Cap, Aleph Null, and Book Wombat. I'd be very surprised if Xi was a wolf.
I said earlier that I'd rather dayvig Aleph Null or Wombat as opposed to Cap and I stand by that. Most of the things Cap did seem either slightly towny or NAI. Plus, if my quick skim of D1 votes is correct, Apogee put a third vote on Cap to bring him into the lead, which seems super risky if they're both wolves.
Between BW and Aleph, the choice is whether we want to go for the person who has said basically nothing the whole day, or the person who hasn't said much but did provide a sketchy-looking claim which correctly accused a wolf but only after that wolf was already very likely to die. Basically it boils down to whether I think Aleph's claim pushes him above or below BW's complete lack of information.
I think I'll vote Book Wombat for now. The fact that there were three wolves makes it slightly less likely that Aleph was panic-distancing, I think. But I'm definitely down to switch to Aleph if BW provides something helpful.
...wait, paranoia activating. What if there were only two wolves, and the game hasn't ended yet because there's still a neutral who wants to kill town around? (Yes, AV, I'm still looking at you )
Gonna have to ponder that a bit...
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psst, wrong colour The bright red colour code is #FF0000I'm Chaotic Good! Ish!
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2021-03-20, 01:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: UPick
I'm alright killing
Book Wombat. Town's ahead, let's cull that suspect list.
My powers are to make three different poems appear in the opening narration. The poems have no powers that have been revealed to me. It is possible that they do things I don't know about. I may or may not have made Apogee's targeting public.Last edited by Xihirli; 2021-03-20 at 02:19 PM.
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2021-03-20, 02:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Time to claim. I'm the Anonymous Reporter.
Book Wombat, you are the Anonymous Reporter, a member of the TOWN.
You win when all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one member of the town survives, even if that isn’t you.
You have one ability:
Report (Priority 5): You can target a person to see who they targeted last night. This information is posted publicly the next morning and you cannot choose whether or not to publish it. This ability’s late priority means you must survive the night to publish your results.Last edited by Book Wombat; 2021-03-20 at 02:08 PM.
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2021-03-20, 02:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-03-20, 02:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'll forgive everyone for stealing cookies if you don't lynch me.
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I could of course be lying that I'm town, but honestly I find it wouldn't make much sense for a mafia member to have a role like this.
Could be used for misdirection though now that I think about it.Last edited by Book Wombat; 2021-03-20 at 02:17 PM.
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2021-03-20, 02:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Good enough for me. Wombat has taken a risk by making a specific, testable claim. If anyone knows that they're really the ones who are behind the public post, congrats you baited a wolf. Please tell us.
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2021-03-20, 02:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'll vote for Aleph Null I guess?
Also, if you look at my post with the black squares on page 1 you'll see that there are eight of them which is meant to be "Terrence", specifically from UnOrdinary. That should be enough proof that my power is what I said it was. Could still be mafia though.Every day...
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2021-03-20, 02:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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I mean if Mafia's plan was for one of you to target me and the other to put one of your own members in the announcements as having done so I feel pretty good about Town's chances anyway, so I'm treating you as town for now.
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2021-03-20, 06:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Technically that only proves that your role name is what you say it is. You could still be lying about the power (or lying about being town, obviously).
That being said, it is testable and sounds plausible, and I'll agree that it would be a more likely power for town than for mafia. Switching to Aleph Null then.
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Also, yeah, like Xihirli said, if BW is telling the truth about their power then it would make no sense for them to have targeted Xihirli as mafia.
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I'd rather not, thanks. Town's got a pretty nice amount of breathing room right now, but it's still obviously better (from my POV) to not waste a lynch on me.
Do people think I should claim my power? I don't think it would really help town much to know my power, at least not in the sense of proving my towniness, but if totadile and Xi think I should claim, I'm down.I'm Chaotic Good! Ish!
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2021-03-20, 07:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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I reckon that your not a wolf.
We both know your role, and we both know a good indication of your abilities. Seeing as how you are what I think you are it is a safe assumption to relate to deal with your dad right? That only gives a couple of roles already that I can think of at least.
Is it informative in nature? As in does your ability need to be revealed to make it useful? Or is it weak enough that it may allow you to suffer less heat in the future?
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2021-03-21, 02:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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I would say this reasonably clears both Xihirli and Book Wombat: unless they're both baddies that conspired with Apogee1 to pull off a really risky distancing move (so 4 wolves in total for 10 players), I can't see one of them being a wolf while the other is not. (Why would a wolf publicly expose their ally like that? Why would they waste a use of their power on a fellow wolf?)
Whatever is going on with Elenna, I'm out of the loop. I have no idea why totadileplayz is sure of her innocence, but they have access to more information than me so I guess I'll just trust their judgement for now (unless AvatarVecna has more to say about it).
That just leaves Aleph Null (and of course me, but hey, I'm not going to vote myself ).
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2021-03-21, 10:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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I'm not sure of their innocence I'm sure they are not a wolf, and what they did would be monumentally stupid for someone who's an sk who needs all the advantages they can get to win.
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Why am I sure they are not a wolf? Their day-vig is blue while wolves would have it be red, and my kill a bit later confirms it, because if the color was meaningless it would be the same for mine.
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Oh wait I was talking about AV. I put them as one of the 3 people to kill, and said the major lead their role isn't actually alignment indicative, and that Aleph Null was a better target then her for now. I'd definitely vote for her of nothing else pops up.
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2021-03-21, 11:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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If you see your name quoted here, make sure to go back and cross out your JeenLeen vote so that your vote for the lynch gets properly counted.
(Yes, I'm calling myself out as well.)
I'm going to vote Aleph Null. Of the five potential suspects, their story seems the most suspicious to me - and, if it turns out they were telling the truth, then at least we're not losing out on their anti-Light scry/NK, since Light is already dead.
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Oh and JeenLeen's name is there as a just-in-case reminder to our lovely narrator not to count his vote.
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2021-03-21, 11:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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