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Thread: What's The Name Of Yoda's Race?
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2019-12-02, 09:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Which raise the question: Critically acclaimed by whom?
The "official" critics from the medias?
Because when you look at how they bash some good stuffs and praise some average or bad stuffs, i wouldn't say they really put my trust in them.
You just need to look at the tomatometer of STDiscovery or Watchmen.
I bet we'll find out before Mandalorian is up. Omid Abtahi (the nervous scientist guy) is too big an actor to waste on two scenes, and he was the most gung-ho to keep the Yodeling alive for... reasons. He'll be back to give an exposition dump before too long.
And i too would like to know what they were planning.
I wouldn't be surprise if they want to use his DNA to produce highly force-sensitive human children to revive an Empire with force-using super-soldier.
Like the Sith knights in SW:TOR.
JJR? What movie are you talking about?Que tous les anciens dieux et les nouveaux protègent la France.
Resistance Data in MM, Volo's, MToF. -- -- Petrocorus's 3.5 Paladin Builds List. -- -- French vs. EnglishOriginally Posted by King Louis XIII in The Musketeers
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2019-12-02, 09:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-12-02, 10:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Que tous les anciens dieux et les nouveaux protègent la France.
Resistance Data in MM, Volo's, MToF. -- -- Petrocorus's 3.5 Paladin Builds List. -- -- French vs. EnglishOriginally Posted by King Louis XIII in The Musketeers
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2019-12-02, 11:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Power Rangers/Sentai/Kamen Rider have been doing action scenes with actors in elaborate costumes/make up for decades now, not to mention the recent wave of great Marvel Movies with lots of great elaborate costume/make up action.
So budget/difficulty is not a valid reason for why humans kick alien ass in Star Wars 99% of the time.
Heck if nothing else Star Wars could've gone for the classic "really looks like an human but is actually an alien" several other franchises do like Star Trek, but not even that. Palpatine's an human, the Skywalkers are humans, Bobba Fett's an human, the unstoppable clone army are humans, the best bounty hunters are humans.
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2019-12-02, 11:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-12-03, 06:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Sooo, Darth Vader and Bobba Fett suddenly aren't worthy of a movie now?
Those are characters who wear fancy clothing and full-face masks most of their time on screen. They ended up as iconic badasses and could've been aliens underneath for all we knew before their identities were revealed.
Yet every time the Star Wars masked badass mask comes off, always a human underneath.
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2019-12-03, 11:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Even Attack of the Clones!?
Wait, are you one of those people who hate sand?
I believe that they also have a lot of problems with the fact that the stunt actors can't see out of the close-up suits, and have had to work around that (suits for longer-ranged shots have eye holes). I mean, especially once you take all the problems into account, Kamen Rider* fight scenes look amazing, but it is certainly a hassle compared to having two human looking characters fighting.
At least apparently until you have to get Ewan McGregor to stop making lightsaber noises during filming.
* I don't really watch PR or SS.
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2019-12-03, 11:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-12-03, 12:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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And if you're on Tattooine, it kills people.
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2019-12-03, 01:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Well, since you brought it up - personally I prefer CinemaScore to RT since it polls people actually leaving the theater (RT has no way to verify that the audience score truly represents folks who have seen the movie, to the point that until recently people were able to start bombing something before it even came out). But I'll indulge you and look at the tomatometer for the shows you mentioned:
Watchmen Season 1 - 96% Fresh
Discovery overall - 83% Fresh
The Mandalorian - 95% Fresh so far
And I'll throw in one more; The Boys Season 1 - 83% Fresh
Yeah, all of these line up perfectly with my own viewpoints, so if anything you've reinforced my acceptance of TLJ's 91% Fresh; that may not have been your intent but that's what I came away with.
Yeah he's fantastic. My hope is also that he might bring some sorely, sorely needed queer representation to Star Wars too, given Salim's own leanings. (No idea about the actor himself though.)
Well... if nothing else we know they fail at that, or at least that this particular plan didn't make it into the First Order and there don't seem to be any other Empire-esque organizations operating at that scale.Plague Doctor by Crimmy
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2019-12-03, 01:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-12-03, 02:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'll check CinemaScore.
But I'll indulge you and look at the tomatometer for the shows you mentioned:
Watchmen Season 1 - 96% Fresh
Discovery overall - 83% Fresh
The Mandalorian - 95% Fresh so far
And I'll throw in one more; The Boys Season 1 - 83% Fresh
Now compare all this scores with the respective audience scores.
Mandalorian and The Boys have audience scores very close or even identical to the tomatometer.
For all the others there is a 40 to 50 % discrepancy. It even reach 61% for Batwoman.
Do you really believe that such a huge difference is only due to trolls?
Or do you think that maybe the media critics are sometimes praising works that are really not that good?
Discovery is 83% fresh while its plot have more holes than your average gruyère.
Yeah, all of these line up perfectly with my own viewpoints, so if anything you've reinforced my acceptance of TLJ's 91% Fresh; that may not have been your intent but that's what I came away with.
Well... if nothing else we know they fail at that, or at least that this particular plan didn't make it into the First Order and there don't seem to be any other Empire-esque organizations operating at that scale.Que tous les anciens dieux et les nouveaux protègent la France.
Resistance Data in MM, Volo's, MToF. -- -- Petrocorus's 3.5 Paladin Builds List. -- -- French vs. EnglishOriginally Posted by King Louis XIII in The Musketeers
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2019-12-03, 03:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Clothes and prosthetics aren't the same thing, are they?
Plus Fett's armor isn't all that elaborate; it articulates just fine. Vader's is, which is why you'll note they had to come up with an explanation for why he's so darn stiff. Are they going to do that for every character in some kind of ceremonial armor?
"Ah yes he wears impractical clothes because he's basically a human stump underneath. This is a common tragedy in this galaxy."
Because, as mentioned, prosthetics are time consuming and expensive, while also being fragile. TBF, Vader users them, but most of Star Wars' alien races are satisfyingly ALIEN, meaning it's kind of immediately obvious they're not the dude under a helmet or a mask or whatever because their face...won't fit under it.
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2019-12-04, 12:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Audience scores for websites, especially things like Rotten tomatoes have never been reliable. If you look to the audience score to see if a film is fresh or rotten, you're never going to get anything close to a reliable rating. Especially for a film with heavy marketing.
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2019-12-04, 12:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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So, before I forget yet again...
Also, every Mandalorian that has wielded the Darksaber (we've seen at least three on screen, to my count). None have been Force sensitive, and none have been trained in lightsaber usage by Jedi, fallen Jedi, or Sith.
Lightsaber usage is not tied to the Force and nothing in canon suggests it is. Plenty in canon suggest that constructing a lightsaber is tied to the Force, but not using it.Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
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2019-12-04, 02:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-12-04, 05:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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The ending of Rogue One shows you can have somebody in Darth Vader's full suit do some pretty sweet scenes.
Says who? Humans can get big hair in lots of crazy shapes, but can still wear helmets just fine because hair is quite flexible. And plenty of Star Wars aliens aren't even that different, Darth Maul just had a bunch of short horns and different skin color. Something like Vader's own helmet would've easily covered his identity.
Really there's no lack of media where there's a masked being and when the mask comes off turns out to be something quite inhuman underneath.
There's a short comic where a younger Darth Maul is hunting a jedi master who turns out to fight with a wooden stick and beats everybody who faces him even if they bring lightsabers but lets them escape alive.
Then after getting his ass kicked Darth maul develops his iconic double lightsaber specifically to counter said wooden stick jedi's moves and kils him.
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2019-12-04, 08:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Lightsabers do allow for blaster bolt deflection, something that other melee weapons can't achieve. That's really the principle reason to use one and it's also something only a force user can actually do.
And there have been force users shown without lightsabers, even in major media. The Nightsisters in TCW used energy bows and regular swords. Lightsabers are the traditional weapons of the Jedi and Sith, and since both organizations are extremely hidebound, it makes sense that they keep using lightsabers even when they aren't necessarily ideal for a given task. Non-traditional Jedi, such as Legends' Mara Jade, regularly made use of other weapons.
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It was the pulp noir detective series. Potentially really cheesy, but I loved 'em. Also I called it, Laranth Tarak was the character.
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2019-12-04, 09:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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As you wish.
I will agree to disagree.
Just to point out that Sabine has been trained by a former padawan.
It's also a very good can opener.
And "can" may mean "security door" or "AT-AT" depending on the context.
Wasn't there also a whole group of force-using bounty hunter who trained in intercepting blaster shots with blaster shots?
Edit: Apparently, that was those ones.Last edited by Petrocorus; 2019-12-04 at 09:22 AM.
Que tous les anciens dieux et les nouveaux protègent la France.
Resistance Data in MM, Volo's, MToF. -- -- Petrocorus's 3.5 Paladin Builds List. -- -- French vs. EnglishOriginally Posted by King Louis XIII in The Musketeers
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2019-12-04, 09:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Que tous les anciens dieux et les nouveaux protègent la France.
Resistance Data in MM, Volo's, MToF. -- -- Petrocorus's 3.5 Paladin Builds List. -- -- French vs. EnglishOriginally Posted by King Louis XIII in The Musketeers