OOTS #1175 - The Discussion Thread

[Breccia]

So...Belkar just inhaled a lot of death worm spores. That can't be good.

[Particle_Man]

I have mixed feelings about Curly. On the one hand, being a vampire in a dwarven city that is about to sound the alarm about vampires doesn't make me feel good about her chances to survive until dusk, when she might escape. On the other hand, she is smart enough to run. If she can overcome her panic (assuming Hilgya continues not to give a damn), find a smoke-filled room, and hide out, then she might have a chance to escape, perhaps to join with that pair of displacer beasts who similarly knew when to keep away from the protagonists. But Hel might not give her that chance. I think Curly might be let down by her god.

[RatElemental]

Also, she did actually die in battle sometime in the last 24 hours. It’s been a bad day.

Curly didn't die in the last 24 hours, her host did.

[theinsulabot]

I don'"t remember if it's publicly known: is Roy left-handed?

I’m not saying he isn’t, actually I think it would be kinda cool if he was, but this strip does not seem to show such.

When completing his sword swing, I note roy’s left arm appears to be fully extended. This would occur if the swing had begun over roy’s right arm. Traditionally a power swing would come over the shoulder of your dominant arm because it has more force. Roy appears to have his right hand on top of his grip on the handle of his greatsword, traditionally where the dominant hand would be, and finally he sheathes the sword one handed over his right shoulder. This suggests he is right handed for two reasons.

One, when taking an action that only requires one hand, people normally use the dominant one, and secondly, as I noted a moment ago, in a case where you would need to draw your sword and immediately transition to an attack, you would expect it to be over the dominant shoulder as that would give your starting swing more of a natural motion.

[AvangionQ]

Did the giant death worm's spirit just infest the last vampire on the field? Give both the torch ... 🔥🧛🔥

[Jannoire]

not not-thad. not-thad not back, not not-thad not see because not-gontor cast not seeing on not not-thad. also, not thad. thad off on journy of self-discovery.

I'm sure someone could do this better than I.

Yep. The Giant did.
But yours is nearly perfect! I enjoyed it, thanks :)

I thought the fight was very long, since in the first panel of the outside fight, the LDW's aura looks like Belkar was growing a beard (like the beard of the guy trying to poison Hinjo during the battle of AC).

[Lvl45DM!]

Well at last somebody bothered to put the failcrawler out of its misery.

You know how pathetic it was because the OotS didn't earn a single exp. That's why Belkar couldn't even be sure it was defeated. A collapsing failcrawler is pretty hard to tell from a fullpower one after all, they're both equally useless.

At least one vampire seems to somehow have escaped the durkon's clan anti-mistform mary sue aura. Helspeed brave one. You faced Durkon's Clan and managed to (un)live for some extra time, that is surely be the most badass epic moment in all the worlds that ever existed, not even the Snarl itself would've survived such proximity to the mary suest family that ever mary sued. Now just need to find some other dwarves and presto, new vampire army.

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[Ruck]

At least one vampire seems to somehow have escaped the durkon's clan anti-mistform mary sue aura.

No matter how much you say this, it isn't true. People have taken the time to repeatedly explain the facts of the story that conflict with your narrative, and you ignore them and persist. Why don't you read the comic that exists instead of the one you made up in your head to hate?

Helspeed brave one. You faced Durkon's Clan and managed to (un)live for some extra time, that is surely be the most badass epic moment in all the worlds that ever existed, not even the Snarl itself would've survived such proximity to the mary suest family that ever mary sued. Now just need to find some other dwarves and presto, new vampire army.

For that matter, if this is your attitude toward the comic, why read it at all? I quit doing things I don't enjoy; I don't dig in and keep doing them, then invent reasons to hate them on top of that.

[Fyraltari]

Yes it would because that would be disregarding the very rule that stops their ennemies from fireballing their asses right now. The rules that keep you alive are the ones you don’t try to work around if you are not a complete imbecile. Again, what purpose would that achieve that couldn’t be achieved by sending adventurers after her later?

Establishing that you can be willing to be "the help", because they don't let people murder you when you're "the help".

How is that not achieved by sending people at her later? What does breaking the truce brings to the table?

You allow anyone to kill the people putting on the Godsmoot, you're not going to have another one.

Now, that's just plainly wrong. The Creed of the Stone is probably not the only non-theistic religion around. And evene if they were or if the others would somehow become magically aware of what happened, any wizard or sorcerer group could fullfill the same role and be just as neutral (if not more). And even if that was not an option, the Churches could agree to send, say two Clerics each, ahead of time to act as Neutral ushers. Or they could just do without ushers since their role seems to be purley decorum (the Moot did not need a Giant cathedral fashioned out of a mountian peak to happen).

But this doesn't even matter since the last we see of the Priests is one of them proposing they change the rules, strongly implying that attacking the ushers will be outlawed going forward.

It was secret before the fact. There's no reason for it to be secret after the fact.

If you hold meetings semi-regularly and you want those meetings to be secret, you don't reveal their existence individually after each is done. That would be asinine.

And if you think the slaughter of the Order of the Creed is going to be kept secret after the fact, you live in a very interesting world.

No, I'm pretty sure it is easy to cover up the disappearance of a dozen people who hosted a secret meeting in a world full of dragons, fiends, liches dark lords and armies of Evil.

"If you kill the hosts of the Godsmoot, everyone else attending will gang up and kill you afterwords" is the kind of rule you have when you want to have people willing to host Fenrir's draped priest.

Didn't seem to bother the Creed of the Stone, now did it? Because that rule was very much not in place. It will probably be afterwards, but that doesn,'t mean they will apply it retro-actively.

Durkula didn't care about that, because there wasn't going to be anything after this Godsmoot.

No, Durkon* did very much care not to transgress any rule because he knew the other Priests would nuke his ass unto Oblivion and back if he stepped on any line, which is why he threatened Wrecan with an accident instead of stomping him.

Sorry to disappoint, but Thog is dead.

I had already pointed this out in another discussion a while ago: the sole reason why the Giant left Thog's death in a state of flux was to avoid foreshadowing too early that the plot of the book was leading straight to the full demise of the Linear Guild.

GDGU lampshades that no-one knows wether Thog is alive or not, so I think your Giant's-mind reading machine is malfunctionning.

[Schroeswald]

GDGU lampshades that no-one knows wether Thog is alive or not, so I think your Giant's-mind reading machine is malfunctionning.

The rest of your post is long and I mostly agree with it so I'll ignore it, but they did!? Yay!

[Fyraltari]

The rest of your post is long and I mostly agree with it so I'll ignore it, but they did!? Yay!

Spoiler: GDGU, well not really, just a bit, it's not important to the actual contents of the book but it is a nice surprise

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Thog gives us the foreword. Then complains that he doesn't even know igf he is alive or not and concludes "thog schrödinger's antagonist!"

[mjasghar]

Also, she did actually die in battle sometime in the last 24 hours. It’s been a bad day.

The vampire isn’t the original person it’s a separate soul

[Schroeswald]

The vampire isn’t the original person it’s a separate soul

She almost certainly remembers it though.

[Dion]

The vampire isn’t the original person it’s a separate soul

Sure, but Curly**’s “worse day ever” was probably the one that started with a terrible haircut, followed by working the night shift in the temple. Oh, and then she was slaughtered by vampires.

I’m just saying it’s probably been a really really bad day for both Curly* and Curly**.

[Fish]

d12's schtick is basically unrelenting negativity.

I reckon he’s just rooting for the villains. Some people do.

After all, somebody’s got to be buying all those Kylo Ren action figures.

[Schroeswald]

I reckon he’s just rooting for the villains. Some people do.

After all, somebody’s got to be buying all those Kylo Ren action figures.

What about the people rooting for a Kylo Rendemption?

[hroþila]

I reckon he’s just rooting for the villains. Some people do.

After all, somebody’s got to be buying all those Kylo Ren action figures.

That's ridiculous, why would anybody root for the v–

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Ok, I get it.

[danielxcutter]

Brightstone, eh? That's another thing we know about Logann's mom, then.

[D.One]

Sure, but Curly**’s “worse day ever” was probably the one that started with a terrible haircut, followed by working the night shift in the temple. Oh, and then she was slaughtered by vampires.

I’m just saying it’s probably been a really really bad day for both Curly* and Curly**.

If we are calling the vampire Curly*, and we are calling the original host Curly** (which, by the way, makes no sense, because she would be the alternate for the alternate for herself, which... kinda makes sense, but is confusing as Hel - and that one is a mess of a goddess :-p ), then who is Curly (no asterisk)?

I reckon he’s just rooting for the villains. Some people do.

After all, somebody’s got to be buying all those Kylo Ren action figures.

There's rooting for the vilain... and there's rooting for the whiny self-important egoist character who... wait, are we talking Kylo Ren or Hylgia?

[Resileaf]

I’m not saying he isn’t, actually I think it would be kinda cool if he was, but this strip does not seem to show such.

When completing his sword swing, I note roy’s left arm appears to be fully extended. This would occur if the swing had begun over roy’s right arm. Traditionally a power swing would come over the shoulder of your dominant arm because it has more force. Roy appears to have his right hand on top of his grip on the handle of his greatsword, traditionally where the dominant hand would be, and finally he sheathes the sword one handed over his right shoulder. This suggests he is right handed for two reasons.

One, when taking an action that only requires one hand, people normally use the dominant one, and secondly, as I noted a moment ago, in a case where you would need to draw your sword and immediately transition to an attack, you would expect it to be over the dominant shoulder as that would give your starting swing more of a natural motion.

I wouldn't necessarily say that you use your dominant hand for everything. I'm right-handed, but when it comes to swinging something with both hands (golf club, hockey stick, stuff like that), I suddenly become left-handed.

[D.One]

I wouldn't necessarily say that you use your dominant hand for everything. I'm right-handed, but when it comes to swinging something with both hands (golf club, hockey stick, stuff like that), I suddenly become left-handed.

And that's your super-power

[Schroeswald]

And that's your super-power

They took the dual-handed reverse dominant feat (it has very specific use).

[Fyraltari]

I wouldn't necessarily say that you use your dominant hand for everything. I'm right-handed, but when it comes to swinging something with both hands (golf club, hockey stick, stuff like that), I suddenly become left-handed.

I'm mostly left-handed but I use my right hand as dominant in a few situatuions (mostly sports), however I think Roy uses his right hand foremost consistently.

[Jannoire]

I wouldn't necessarily say that you use your dominant hand for everything. I'm right-handed, but when it comes to swinging something with both hands (golf club, hockey stick, stuff like that), I suddenly become left-handed.

My handball coach got furious when he saw my brother signing something. My brother does everything with his left hand! Except for throwing balls. For that he uses his right hand...

[Dion]

If we are calling the vampire Curly*, and we are calling the original host Curly**

I should probably use Curly^-1 for pre-vamped Curly, but it’s a lot of work to type on a phone.

[Squire Doodad]

I should probably use Curly^-1 for pre-vamped Curly, but it’s a lot of work to type on a phone.

ylruC?

Moe?

Return of the Living Cleric?

Larry?

UnCurly?

Wavy?

The One Who Died?

Blue Tunic Cleric?

The Cleric to be known as Curly?

The Ending One?

[Fyraltari]

Curly Prime? Curliving?

[Snails]

The Giant is a skilled visual artist, among other things. These kinds of details get fudged all the time in movies to make the shot look better.

Example: The Nazgul are predominantly right-handed, as easily proven by inspection of various scenes. Yet the Nazgul enter the Prancing Pony with their sword in their left hand -- that was a director's choice to give a full and unimpeded view of the length of the sword.

I would bet a large amount of money that The Giant mulled over which hand to go where and decided he liked left on top better for this particular panel. Clearly Roy usually goes right on top, and he puts away his sword the way a righty would.

[Squire Doodad]

The Giant is a skilled visual artist, among other things. These kinds of details get fudged all the time in movies to make the shot look better.

Example: The Nazgul are predominantly right-handed, as easily proven by inspection of various scenes. Yet the Nazgul enter the Prancing Pony with their sword in their left hand -- that was a director's choice to give a full and unimpeded view of the length of the sword.

I would bet a large amount of money that The Giant mulled over which hand to go where and decided he liked left on top better for this particular panel. Clearly Roy usually goes right on top, and he puts away his sword the way a righty would.

Roy probably has used a two-handed weapon for long enough to be effectively ambidextrous anyways, even if he doesn't have a fancy mark on his character sheet saying that.

[Fish]

What about the people rooting for a Kylo Rendemption?

I haven’t watched the video, but I’m going to go out on a limb and say those people are wrong.

It’s the Internet. My odds are pretty good.

There's rooting for the vilain... and there's rooting for the whiny self-important egoist character who... wait, are we talking Kylo Ren or Hylgia?

The character of Hilgya, played in a pen-and-paper D&D campaign on 8chan by Kylo Ren, as played by Ross Geller.