My Little Pony LXXXII: Popular Teenagers Are Not To Be Trusted

[Trixie]

How dare you not trust her :<

Here be rest of the pony post when I feel a bit better

[Rater202]

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[Thanqol]

Funny how that one sentence makes me want to see somepony actually go out and decide to call you guys on this and utterly raze the town to the ground, while delivering a message about how it is not a thing to try to make your actions not have consequences...

Our actions have consequences for other people!

Or, put it another way, we are the consequences for other people's actions.

[zimmerwald1915]

Where has all the content gone, from the OP?
Where has all the content gone, where did it go?
Where has all the content gone?
To Trixie's hard drive, everyone.
Oh when will we ever learn?
Oh when will we ever learn?

Where has Trixie's hard drive gone...

[Topaz]

Topaz' Traditionally Tardy List of Pony tabletop RPGs:

Complete Games --

D20 Based:
Courage is Magic (New 1.17 edition) (Very Heavily Modified D&D4 based)
Heroes of Equestria (D&D-ish)
Pony Tales: Aspirations of Harmony (d20 meets Final Fantasy style)

D6 Based:
My Little Pony: Roleplaying is Magic, Season Four (New Update!)
- And Rater202's Capricorn race for RiM Second Edition
Pony Tales the RPG (Open d6 based)
Ponies & Parasprites (D6 total based)
My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, The Roleplaying Game (Older game using a D6 dice pool)
A different My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, The Role-Playing Game (2D6 based, meant to be run for younger players)
Puzzles and Ponies (Simple 1d6 game)

D10 based:
Sereg's Pony RPG (D10 dice pool)

D100 (percentile dice) based:
Fallout: Equestria PNP
Fallout: Equestria RPG
Older, different Fallout:Equestria RPG

Multiple die type based:
My Little Heroes AKA Hooves of Heroes (Original ODT file) (PDF version)
Ponies: The Roleplaying Game

Playing card based:
Friendship is Magic, the Tabletop RPG (GitP forum)

Suppliments for existing systems --

Roleplaying in Equestria for D&D Fifth Edition
Ponies for D&D 4e
Pony Races for Pathfinder
Ponyfinder thread on Paizo forum
Dungeons & Dragons: Friendship is Magic (Ponies for D&D 3.5)
Pony Races for D&D 3.5 (GitP forum)
Ponies! My Little Pony: D20 adaptation
The Conversion Bureau (uses Microlite 20)
The Savage World of My Little Pony (uses Savage Worlds)
My Little Pony meets Exalted tumblr
NightmareRun by Digo Dragon (uses Shadowrun 4e)
Friendship is FATE v2 (uses FATE Accelerated)
The Mane Six for FATE Accelerated (RPGnet forum)
MLP:FiM for Burning Engine/Mouse Guard (Discussion on RPGnet)
Unknown Ponies: Failure is Awesome (uses Unknown Armies)
Don't Rest Your Hooves (uses Don't Rest Your Head)
Don't Hate Your Friends (Don't Rest Your Head hack, RPGnet forum)
My Little Legend (uses the Legend RPG from Rule of Cool RPGs)
Ponies for Oz (uses Adventures in Oz: Fantasy Roleplaying Beyond the Yellow Brick Road)

Further contributions and updates welcome!

[b_jonas]

Another dumb question. In the episode "It's About Time", Pinkie Pie predicts that Twilight will receive a totally awesome birthday present the next year. Have we found out what that birthday present is?

My guess is that the present is the access to the thousands of old library books in Celestia and Luna's old castle in the Everfree Forest. I would totally consider that an awesome present. But I don't know when Twilight's birthday is.

[Balmas]

Played Twilight Sparkle's Secret Shipfic Folder today.- Worst Ship: Mister Cake was shipped with Mrs Cake. The shipping card was 'friends ever since childhood'. There were no other ships joining them.

How the heck did you manage that? Someone shipped them and then removed the ship that bound them together to someone else?

We use the magic of friendship to completely screw everypony who is not us time and again.

Sounds like the best kind of mission statement.

Topaz' Traditionally Tardy List of Pony tabletop RPGs:

On the first page? Topaz, you're losing your touch.

[Rater202]

Another dumb question. In the episode "It's About Time", Pinkie Pie predicts that Twilight will receive a totally awesome birthday present the next year. Have we found out what that birthday present is?

My guess is that the present is the access to the thousands of old library books in Celestia and Luna's old castle in the Everfree Forest. I would totally consider that an awesome present. But I don't know when Twilight's birthday is.

Her prediction is that Twilight would get a an awesome present for her next birhday.

This is Pinkie Talking.

Pinkie probaly "predicted" this, because as the awesome party planner who is one of Twilight's best friends, she was planning to give Twilight an awesome present for her next birthday.

[Kd7sov]

But I don't know when Twilight's birthday is.

Per "Sweet and Elite", it's after the Grand Galloping Gala transitions from "recent" to "coming up", but far enough in advance that Rarity would feasibly be able to have dresses ready for interested ponies. Also, probably not in winter.

[DigoDragon]

I'm back from my adventure! Who missed me? :D

...JEEZE, I still haven't watched the Equestrian Games thing!

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Spike's musical number from that has become my favorite part of that entire episode.
I got it on MP3.

and the 49-parsec Lyrobot Mk2 transports arrived and all three Gaia world fell in a single blow.

You do that too? :D
Because you lose the transport after the invasion, I stuff my version with troop modules and then use the transport to move entire planet populations to recently captured worlds where cheaper transports await boarding. But 49 parsecs/wk pretty much means *poof* you are there, so it don't take long to get troops to the front lines.

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(if I'm right DigoDragon should like this)

Yes, yes I do.

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Also on your analysis, I think it would be best if Twi stayed in Pony world and Sunset got upgraded to this world's Twi. Otherwise it's like two of the same Mane6 chemistry and that'll get boring.

Like what? How to rule?

Today on Equestria Girls, sunset uses the elements against their greatest nemesis yet, Algebra!

- Worst Ship: Mister Cake was shipped with Mrs Cake. The shipping card was 'friends ever since childhood'. There were no other ships joining them.

There's a joke about fandoms in this. A really pointed joke...

Given what sort of 'friendship testing' happens in Co-Op Portal drawing ponies in it might not be especially bright idea

Likely not the brightest, but hilarious for sure. :3

Our actions have consequences for other people!
Or, put it another way, we are the consequences for other people's actions.

There was certainly a long stint back in 2007 where karma was using me to get back at some really bad drivers on the road.
The most amusing one was the dude in the big pick up truck that tried to use a 'Right turn Only' lane to pass me and he t-boned a cop car.

Where has all the content gone, from the OP?

What, you didn't memorize it by now?

Sounds like the best kind of mission statement.

Sounds like most kinds of mission statements. XD

[Aotrs Commander]

You do that too? :D
Because you lose the transport after the invasion, I stuff my version with troop modules and then use the transport to move entire planet populations to recently captured worlds where cheaper transports await boarding. But 49 parsecs/wk pretty much means *poof* you are there, so it don't take long to get troops to the front lines.

Trouble with that was, I didn't have any planets capable of rolling out shorter-range transports, as I was capturing them faster than I could put the transports out... And it took a few tens of weeks (assuming I didn't just give the whole thing over to economy, as I did towards the end, which kept me up and down around break-even) to get the planets up.

(I forgot to mention - I managed a staggering -1200bc average per week according to the final statistics. I have no idea how I managed that...)

The trouble with GalCiv, though, is the combat is so flat. And lifeless. You spend time building those starships (and hey, guys, good job on making upgrading a massive pain is when it takes all the non-decorative modules off) and... It is about as meaningful as it was in Spore. All it gives you are numbers. I know there's supposed to be some depth with the weapon trees and the defences... But I always find sticking a ship full of guns and nothing else seems to work best. And even then, what depth there is is limited to "what research you choose." Compared to SotS 1 (which I played before and after that last stretch as I was playing GalCiv2 at my mate's house while I house-sat him Friday evening Saturday)... There's no comparison. SotS's nonmilitary side is shallower, yes, but everything else makes up for it.

And I find far, FAR too much time is spent fracking around with stations - which blow up way too easily for the time invested. (This is a fault of SotS 2 as well, and sadly bases there are absolutely critical, so you spend a lot of time fragging about with them... They have five levels - which you need a constructor to build/upgrade - but at least they have their own module build queues. But losing one that's been built up can cost you tens of turns or more, possibley into a hundred or so. SotS 1 does it much better - you built the station, that was it. If you lost it, you went "oh bugger" and just lost the turns and money to rebuild it, and not all the real-time clicking all the upgrades.)


Like I say, if you combined GalCiv with SotS (best parts of 1 and 2), a bit of MoO3 and Space Empires V (and polished the ground combat to a level like, I dunno, Empire at War or something), you'd have the perfect game. As it is... I think SotS 1 and 2 (as the sequel is different, not better, to the first one) are still the best of the rest.



Also... they ALL need WAAAAY better music. The background music for all of them is pretty damned awful, especially when you realise that you'll be listening to it for tens or hundreds of hours.

[Silfir]

Wait, SotS 2 is not terrible now?

SotS 1 is my favorite space-based 4X, so I was always disappointed the sequel looked to be such an utter disaster. I know they've been trying to fix it, but it's been out of my focus for a while.

[b_jonas]

Pinkie probaly "predicted" this, because [...] she was planning to give Twilight an awesome present for her next birthday.

Possible, but then I still want to know what the awesome birthday present was.

[DigoDragon]

D'aww? D'aww.

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School as I Remembered it.

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Trouble with that was, I didn't have any planets capable of rolling out shorter-range transports, as I was capturing them faster than I could put the transports out... And it took a few tens of weeks (assuming I didn't just give the whole thing over to economy, as I did towards the end, which kept me up and down around break-even) to get the planets up.

Oh, right right. I forget how slow building a factory world can take when you're capturing them in a war.
Especially when you get OCD like me who needs all the tiles to form pretty and artistic patterns.

(I forgot to mention - I managed a staggering -1200bc average per week according to the final statistics. I have no idea how I managed that...)

Holy Hot Pink Bicycle Shorts, Batman!
That is NOT a small deficit.

The trouble with GalCiv, though, is the combat is so flat. And lifeless.

110% Agree. I love the game to death for it's AI and planetary building/maintenance system, but it needs an actual combat system. I would of loved one like from MOO2. Turn-based, ships have initiative scores, facing mattered with positions of both shields and weapons, etc. One of the neatest parts was the ability to Escape combat. It was a risk since you need a round to warm up the hyperdrive, but if your fleet was taking a pounding, it was better to try and flee than lose everything.

And sometimes the enemy doesn't follow so you can at least regroup.
Or other times it will follow so you can lead them into an ambush. ;)

Also... they ALL need WAAAAY better music.

Heh, yeah. All 4X music seems to be some varient of this slow 'humming' tune that makes you fall asleep. I recall MOO2's battle music wasn't too bad, but that was the only one I remember not being slower than Molasses in January.

[Gamerlord]

Hey kids, have you been feeling like you've been getting too much sleep recently? Well, just watch this, and you will never sleep again!

Another dumb question. In the episode "It's About Time", Pinkie Pie predicts that Twilight will receive a totally awesome birthday present the next year. Have we found out what that birthday present is?

My guess is that the present is the access to the thousands of old library books in Celestia and Luna's old castle in the Everfree Forest. I would totally consider that an awesome present. But I don't know when Twilight's birthday is.

Well, this is Pinkie we're talking about, it is probably something relatively mundane or confectionery/comedy-related and not some epic artifact or secret knowledge. Also, since the first three seasons were all in the span of a single year, we might not have reached her next birthday yet.

[DigoDragon]

Hey kids, have you been feeling like you've been getting too much sleep recently? Well, just watch this, and you will never sleep again!

Well I'll be up all night laughing at this!!

[Pendulous]

Ok, the thread title amuses me. Is that supposed to be Sunset Shimmer?

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It doesn't work if you don't read it in Arin Hanson's voice.

Another dumb question. In the episode "It's About Time", Pinkie Pie predicts that Twilight will receive a totally awesome birthday present the next year. Have we found out what that birthday present is?

My guess is that the present is the access to the thousands of old library books in Celestia and Luna's old castle in the Everfree Forest. I would totally consider that an awesome present. But I don't know when Twilight's birthday is.

A one-off joke line that won't get revisited because it's not important. I doubt it will be mentioned again.

[Forum Explorer]

Our actions have consequences for other people!

Or, put it another way, we are the consequences for other people's actions.

I think I just found my next villain's family creed.

Hey kids, have you been feeling like you've been getting too much sleep recently? Well, just watch this, and you will never sleep again!

That was pretty funny. Oh, but my sleep schedule is incredibly messed up right now.

Yes. I can't compare with Sunset Shimmer of course because I don't know anything about how Celestia had taught her, but at least Celestia does give enough free rein to Twilight Sparkle and lets her learn to solve her own problems. Would it be awefully clicheed if I said she's like Professor Dumbledore in this?

On a related note, I'm a bit affraid about how season 5 and 6 will be able to handle Discord's role. His chaos illusion magic seems to be so powerful, that if he really chose to use his powers for good and became a friend of the ponies, he could solve too many problems instantly. That would make for a boring show. But at the same time, I would like to see him more often in the show.

No, but I would disagree with the comparison anyways. As far as we know, Twilight was trained for a long time by Celestia personally before given any sort of these problems. We don't know how, if at all, that training differed from Sunset's.

Anyways, after Nightmare Moon Celestia's quest giving was more of just that. It was 'hey we've got this problem, go fix it Twilight.' She didn't interfere with Twilight fixing her own problems, but she also wasn't really available (As far as Twilight knew) to solve those problems.


I'm not worried. Twilight might not be as powerful, but she is incredibly powerful. So much of the same argument applies to her, and she rarely instantly solved the problem to a plot, mostly because this is a Slice of Life show and the problem usually isn't solved by application of massive power anyways.

[zimmerwald1915]

Ok, the thread title abuses me. Is that supposed to be Sunset Shimmer?

Let's just say...no.

[Soras Teva Gee]

On the first page? Topaz, you're losing your touch.

Its traditional, but not required obviously.

Like when you celebrate Christmas early because you're going somewhere distinctly un-Christmas for the actual holiday.

[DigoDragon]

Sometimes I love our fandom.

When they take this scene:

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And turn it into this art piece:

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Alternate Mane six:

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[Aotrs Commander]

Oh, right right. I forget how slow building a factory world can take when you're capturing them in a war.

Worse when it's the Thalans and it scraps al the factories becsuse you can't use them.

Holy Hot Pink Bicycle Shorts, Batman!
That is NOT a small deficit.

I dn't even remember ever getting that much deficit... Must have been during the war, when I was only half paying attention and the funds fluctuated but stayed relatively stable. I don't even know.

Wait, SotS 2 is not terrible now?

SotS 1 is my favorite space-based 4X, so I was always disappointed the sequel looked to be such an utter disaster. I know they've been trying to fix it, but it's been out of my focus for a while.

SotS 2 is not terrible now. It i not spectacular, but it now at least approaches the level of the first game (and in my opinion, the two are about equal now.)

It still has some problems (the new race is playable, but a bit buggy), and there are no scenarios (they didn't even re-enable the cinematics) - I don't think they've released a patch or anything for a while. You will have to use the in-game chat to ask stupid questions, since the manual and documentation is to the usual poor standards, but it is quite playable. It's not better than SotS 1... it's better in some areas, but not others. (I don't, for example, like the way they do fleets and orders now. But on the other hand, you actually get a display of the damage to your vessel's armour, so you don't have to guess so much about what ship is being battered.)

I got it on sale for about a fiver, and I've had some tens of hours of play out of it, so it's earned it's keep. If they actually did another expansion, I'd pay normal prices for it.

[Forum Explorer]

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That Chrysalis creeps me out.

[DigoDragon]

Worse when it's the Thalans and it scraps al the factories becsuse you can't use them.

Ack, that does totally suck! :/
(One I hate is when you take a world and it's full of enemy spires. Inheriting a problem)

That Chrysalis creeps me out.

The way she's looking at that rock. :x
Run, Tom! Run!

[Topaz]

On the first page? Topaz, you're losing your touch.

Its traditional, but not required obviously.

It's all about when I happen to get on after the new thread starts. I think this is my second earliest.

[DigoDragon]

Be Kind...

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#1 Spikey Wikey

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[t209]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd1NHI30zUc (Wolfenstein: The New Order Spoiler)

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Derpy's voice: Doctor, end me..END ME!
(Doctor managed to cripple Cyberman Derpy)
Dr: Derpy, can you hear me?
Derpy: Doctor..I tried, this machine is controlling me.
Dr: I know.
Derpy: I cannot..suffer..in this Dang machine..End this.
(Doctor used his sonic screw driver to end Derpy's life to free her from being a slave)

[Tariv Gy]

Okay. I've been dreadfully out of the loop for quite some time now. Could somebody explain the EqG: Rainbow Rocks thing? All I know it that it exists.

[Topaz]

Okay. I've been dreadfully out of the loop for quite some time now. Could somebody explain the EqG: Rainbow Rocks thing? All I know it that it exists.

Are you familiar with the first Equestria Girls movie? Since this is a sequel, it won't make much sense unless you are.

[b_jonas]

On Twi's birthday,

Per "Sweet and Elite", it's after the Grand Galloping Gala transitions from "recent" to "coming up", but far enough in advance that Rarity would feasibly be able to have dresses ready for interested ponies. Also, probably not in winter.

Ah yes. I thought of that but for some reason I decided it was some other pony's birthday.

Update:

Well, this is Pinkie we're talking about, it is probably something relatively mundane or confectionery/comedy-related and not some epic artifact or secret knowledge. Also, since the first three seasons were all in the span of a single year, we might not have reached her next birthday yet.

No no no. Think of Pinkie Pride. Pinkie knows perfectly well that a birthday present counts as amazing if its recipient thinks of it as amazing. If the present is a cake, then it's a cake that Twilight will find amazing for some reason, not just some cake Pinkie really likes (yum). But you're right in that the birthday might be in the future.

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On Twilight's training,

As far as we know, Twilight was trained for a long time by Celestia personally before given any sort of these problems.

Yes, that's probably true.

On Discord,

I'm not worried. Twilight might not be as powerful, but she is incredibly powerful. So much of the same argument applies to her, and she rarely instantly solved the problem to a plot, mostly because this is a Slice of Life show and the problem usually isn't solved by application of massive power anyways.

That doesn't quite convince me, because Discord has magic that seems more powerful than Twilight. Come on, he could raise lots of houses in Ponyville to the air, make the whole Sweet Apple Acres flooded, then instantly convert it to get covered by ice, then dry it.

What I might hope is that while it seems very powerful, it's also very limited in such a way that he turns out to not be able to solve most of the practical problems. In particular, most of his magic seems to be illusions and mind magic. Maybe he can't really fix dams or clear up floods that he didn't cause. Or something.