OOTS #576 - The Discussion Thread

[Rawhide]

Creating threads for all comics released while the forums were switched off.

[Szilard]

I loved that last bit.

[ss49]

So, can Celia zap the Munster while being held?

[pyrefiend]

Poor belkar hasn't gotten any decent stabbing in forever.

[sleepy]

Is that partially covered red banner featuring a hammer and sickle?

Golems are communists? Or is it mad golem making wizards that are communists? Is the people's equality truely realized in a conglomeration of animated automatons bound to a single disreputable magician? I guess they never tried that.

[Gopher]

Heh. Herman Munster.

Looks like Haley's warning wasn't entirely selfish. I guess Cliffport is pretty bad.

Incidentally, what species are these two? I don't reconize that race.

[happyturtle]

I'm not crazy about the Greysky City story so far, but "I'm kinda in a hurry" earned a giggle. And also we can now give Roy a blue robe and he can get a job as a Xykon impersonator.

[ArmorArmadillo]

I'm strangely disappointed by this current side-arc...I guess I just don't by the babe-in-the-woods act from Celia. She's always been this smart lawyer, how can she all of the sudden not notice a criminal undercity?

[Om]

I'm strangely disappointed by this current side-arc...I guess I just don't by the babe-in-the-woods act from Celia. She's always been this smart lawyer, how can she all of the sudden not notice a criminal undercity?

Perhaps the same way she knows nothing else about humans?

Really though I don't care, I'm just delighted to see the pace of the strip pick up after the revelations at the Orcale's

[r23r5]

So, I guess were hoping Haley saves the day now.

[ArmorArmadillo]

Perhaps the same way she knows nothing else about humans?

Really though I don't care, I'm just delighted to see the pace of the strip pick up after the revelations at the Orcale's

She knows nothing about human biology.
As a law student, she seems to know plenty about human laws, which are the issue.


I thought the oracle was a decent point. And I'm glad to see Haley out of the spotlight for a while.

[happyturtle]

I imagine Celia has spent all her time immersed in law books and very little actually encountering the lawless. Remember, her only actual case so far was against Lawful opponents. And also, the outcome was fixed. She has no idea how to deal with Chaos.

[PhallicWarrior]

And I was sure she'd get a clue before things got out of hand, but what do I know?

[T-O-E]

Loved the references to old horror's, especially the Frankenstein flesh golem.

[Pronounceable]

Cart Fairy is an oddly catchy title.

[fractal]

Fortunately for Celia, with his use of contracts and the like, her current opponent does appear to be lawful evil. Perhaps she can do a deal. The fact that he still seems to want to carry out the transaction as agreed upon is a good sign.

The emotional distress thing, though, isn't likely to get her far in Greysky City. And her lightning bolts will only make the flesh golem now grappling her even stronger.

[HUMVEE Driver]

Come on, is Celia realy that dumb/naive/stupid/trusting/ignorant? She makes Elan seem wise.

[rosebud]

It's not a hammer and sickle. Looks like runes of some sort.

Anyhow, this is an unexpected turn of events, including lack of bargaining and Belkar willing to sell Mr. Scruffy. And her not being precise at the time of request. And the items in the cart are just out there. Okay, I didn't think it could ever be this bad and it's surely only going to get worse.

I still liked Celia though.

PS THANKS FOR GETTING THE FORUMS UP RAWHIDE!!!!

[Lupy]

I hope that Haley saves Roy by 600 or the geeks will flip.

[Mythlor]

Yes, Roy's skeleton is now an animated character (LOL). His animated bones will not prevent a resurrection spell when cast, but can cause some hilarity to pull the spell off. The bone golem will have to be destroyed and/or the elemental spirit exorcised from his bones.

The spells used in 2.5e to make a bone golem were stated as animate dead, symbol of fear, binding and wish. Looks like you had to be a 18th level wizard to make one.

[Ascension]

Can you still resurrect an ex-golem? I'm sure Roy will be revived in this case, rules be hanged, but what I want to know is whether or not it's possible by RAW.

EDIT: And I got ninja'd by the answer to my question!

Now I've got a new one... What happens to the earth elemental inside him when he gets rezzed?

[elonin]

I'm wondering if Belkar might become an undead. That would fufil the prophecy. The cart farie comment was so funny.

[Faramir]

Remember, Celia is a law student with very little real world experience outside her books. I loved the last panel where her reaction to a physical threat is threatening to sue though...

Anyone know what the line "Roker shall see one more sunrise" references? It kinda lost me.

[Bitzeralisis]

Convenient lightning.

[Swordlol]

Mmmm....

I'm too lazy to quote this...

Interesting Side-arc to say the least.

[fractal]

Anyone know what the line "Roker shall see one more sunrise" references? It kinda lost me.

According to Wikipedia, he's a weatherman from NYC. I guess Hieronymus Grubwiggler dislikes inaccurate forecasts.

[elonin]

I'm proposing that Celia is a neutral good charactor. The good is easy to establish, being upset by Belkar killing in front of her. From what I remeber she's taken some chaotic actions like letting OOTS use the employee tunnels to bypass a couple of dungeon levels and not owning up to her end of the contract. Remeber that the guy (don't know what it is) said "roy will be up and walking around again". Celia agreed to that and renigged after she found out how. I'm not saying I'd act differently but he did hold up his side of the bargain. She should have asked for more details etc. Frankley her actions don't show her to be particularly lawful or chaotic. Also, while she's led a sheltered life she must have been exposed to chaos being a fae creature (unless i'm mistaken about that).

[silvadel]

Belkar goes from green to black -- that isnt a good sign.

Did the bone golem etc remind anyone else of spock's brain? It would make it easier to move him around as he could under his own power.

Does being animated as a golem have any adverse implications with being raised?

[Aurorax]

Maybe Belkar can use his vomit as a weapon....which will just make him puke even more...

[Ascension]

Did the bone golem etc remind anyone else of spock's brain? It would make it easier to move him around as he could under his own power.

Though I try as hard as I can to forget that Spock's Brain (and indeed much of the third season) ever aired, I see your point.

Does being animated as a golem have any adverse implications with being raised?

I asked the same question... Mythlor says it won't.