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2019-05-17, 07:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Level 5 Wizard: How to Kill a Barbarian
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2019-05-17, 07:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Level 5 Wizard: How to Kill a Barbarian
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2019-05-17, 10:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Level 5 Wizard: How to Kill a Barbarian
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2019-05-18, 03:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Level 5 Wizard: How to Kill a Barbarian
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2019-05-18, 03:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-05-18, 04:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-05-18, 05:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-05-18, 12:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Level 5 Wizard: How to Kill a Barbarian
We haven't heard many of the details, but let's all remember that this is a built-to-purpose Wizard, but an actual already existing Barbarian character. A lot of things that a hypothetical level 5 Barbarian could be built to do, this one wont be able to. We've all been assuming that losing initiative is really bad, but for most level 5 Barbarians, their total move speed is only 40, so even if they win initiative, they can't Charge in their first round. 100 feet away is too far., unless they are a race with at least a 40ft move speed naturally, or they have some other move speed increases already. StevenC21 hasn't told us that detail yet. Unless they do, this fight is way easier than we've all been preparing for.
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2019-05-18, 12:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Level 5 Wizard: How to Kill a Barbarian
Besides the Greataxe +1, do we know how the Barbarian is specc'ed?
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2019-05-18, 01:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Level 5 Wizard: How to Kill a Barbarian
20 STR, 13 DEX, 18 CON, 8 INT, 10 WIS, 12 CHA.
Anything else you need to know? He is wearing studded leather armor for AC 14.
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2019-05-18, 02:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Level 5 Wizard: How to Kill a Barbarian
Do you know his feats?
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2019-05-18, 02:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-05-18, 02:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Level 5 Wizard: How to Kill a Barbarian
He has power attack and cleave.
Move speed 40 ft.
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2019-05-18, 03:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Level 5 Wizard: How to Kill a Barbarian
This isn't a fair fight at all. It sounds like the barbarian player doesn't have much insight into material outside of core or even outside of being a melee beatstick. He probably doesn't know many arcane spells or their ramifications. You won't need much strategy to win. The ideas in this thread have definitely gone overboard for what he has in store.
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2019-05-18, 03:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Level 5 Wizard: How to Kill a Barbarian
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2019-05-18, 03:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Hey, he chose the feats... I don't claim to understand his motivation.
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2019-05-18, 05:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-05-19, 01:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Level 5 Wizard: How to Kill a Barbarian
So glitterdust/web/shatter/fly and a bunch of core only stuff easily wins this
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2019-05-19, 03:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-05-19, 04:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-05-20, 11:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Level 5 Wizard: How to Kill a Barbarian
Destroy his nonmagical armor. With Web and blind the wizard could then beat the barbarian by stabbing with a knife or sling. No studded leather + a -4 to dex from entangled + a -2 from blind means an ac of 7 or less if barbarian is raging. This gives a wizard 75% chance of hitting wit nearly anything. It's more about embarrassing with wasteING spells in inefficient ways.
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2019-05-20, 05:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Level 5 Wizard: How to Kill a Barbarian
In a 1v1 you might want to go for Torrent of Tears (Complete Mage, page 119) to hit the enemy with Blinded and Sickened with a single spell instead of using Glitterdust.
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2019-05-20, 07:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Level 5 Wizard: How to Kill a Barbarian
Closer range needed though, which could potentially be problematic if the barbarian actually makes the Will save.
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2019-05-21, 02:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Level 5 Wizard: How to Kill a Barbarian
So you're the DM, you're bringing in the might of forum knowledge and everything is allowed even Dragon Mag. He keeps his current character without rebuilding. Not exactly a fair fight.
As for the argument I'd say depends on level of optimization. More of it opens up more tricks to the wizard than it does the barbarian, so both being equal the wizard pulls ahead. Though I'm assuming equal optimization. High optimization on one character only is a bit one sided regardless of the class, and will probably curb stomp the other regardless. Heck I might put my money on an everything-optimized no limits commoner 5 over a wizard 5 someone through together. Not to beat the wizard, but to curb stomp him. Though that depends on how far the cheese is truly allowed to go.
Now as for a DM in a hurry to throw together a 4v4 wizard fight by tomorrow with just vanilla spells (no NI loops, no combos, no week prep of divinations, etc.)... it's over in a couple rounds with barely a scratch on the party. 1v1 you could have luck on your side and hope the barbarian rolls low and/or you pump a save-or-X spell for a save you know he's low in. Without allies to rescue him it favors a quick save or lose like deep slumber. And PCs vs monsters it's yet another story.Last edited by ericgrau; 2019-05-21 at 02:31 AM.
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2019-05-21, 07:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-05-21, 08:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Level 5 Wizard: How to Kill a Barbarian
So when is this fight supposed to go down? Let us know how it turns out!
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2019-05-21, 09:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Level 5 Wizard: How to Kill a Barbarian
It happens today!
I'll try to remember to make another post afterwards in this thread.
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2019-05-21, 09:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Level 5 Wizard: How to Kill a Barbarian
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2019-05-21, 09:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Level 5 Wizard: How to Kill a Barbarian
Oh, yes it was.
So, he agreed once again to the fight. Just had to ensure that he was consenting.
So then, we started. 100 feet away.
Round 1:
He wins Initiative and charges to 20 feet away.
I cast Glitterdust. He fails his save and is blinded. I move 15 feet to the left to get out of position.
Round 2:
He, now blinded, charges again but obviously misses me.
I cast Lahms Finger Darts and get Max on it, for a total of 8 DEX damage.
Round 3:
He begins running away.
I move 30 feet towards him and cast Slow. He fails his save.
Round 4:
He continues running, now at half speed.
I proceed to recast Lahms Finger Darts, dealing 5 more DEX damage. He now has DEX 0. He can no longer move.
Round 5:
I approach and shank him.
Round 6:
Shank.
Round 7:
Shank.
Round 8:
Shank again, coup de Grace.
All in all, he was somewhat embarrassed but took it well. It was enlightening for him.