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2019-04-15, 01:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1161 - The Discussion Thread
This really makes me wonder. If someone was shapeshifted into a dwarf and tried to walk through the barrier, would they get through yet be turned back into their original species, or would they be unable to get through at all? I suppose it depends on which clause takes place first - negating any spells on them, or only permitting dwarves to pass.
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2019-04-15, 02:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1161 - The Discussion Thread
Hilgya and (probably) Minrah still off screen.
Keep in mind that Durkon said there are three rings making up the council chambers, each with its own set of... rules? protections? - but Gontor* only seems to know about two of them. The vampires probably don't expect Minrah to show up at all, and may be unclear about Hilgya (or think she could be easily dominated, and therefore not much of a threat).
So showing the Order is like saying, here we are, look at us. Minrah and Hilgya are the good guys' sleigh of hand.
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2019-04-15, 02:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1161 - The Discussion Thread
We know that V knows Greater Invis though, so it's a bit odd. I guess either explanation works, personally I prefer Grey Wolf's. Though FWIW the scene would work just as well if Roy got caught seemingly inexplicably, with V then speaking out of thin air.
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2019-04-15, 02:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1161 - The Discussion Thread
That seems like a not-especially-efficent way of fixing this, with four targets - including Mr Scruffy - down. With the worm's caster level, a +2 bonus seems unlikely to be enough for the Order of Poor Will Saves, and guaranteed-release would require four separate castings.
(And given that Haley is the one that gestures in the direction of the clerics, she probably doesn't)
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2019-04-15, 02:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1161 - The Discussion Thread
As long as he keeps both feet on the ground, he shouldn't be able to put either in his mouth. He has nothing to worry about.
To paraphrase something I said earlier, V has gone through enough character development to take others' suggestions seriously, but hasn't gone through quite enough to realize they can ignore them when they're stupid.
I'm imagining two possible scenarios from Belkar chucking Bloodfeast at the barrier:
1. Touching the barrier is enough to dispel baleful polymorph and Bloodfeast turns the tide of battle, but gets knocked off the narrow platform before it can completely end the encounter.
2. Bloodfeast bounces off, Elan correctly realizes it can't go through due to not being a dwarf, and he promptly glues a beard on to trick the barrier into letting Bloodfeast through.
Spoiler: Unrelated tangent
...which, in Elan-logic, leads to a dinosaur with a beard.
In a D&D game I played, the party druid had a belt of dwarvenkind, which (among other things) gives you a beard. We joked that this applied even in animal forms, including the T. rex the druid turned into with polymorph. The joke lived on after the druid left the party, because the wizard regularly cast polymorph on party members, and the only T. rex he ever saw was the druid...
Eh, it's a joke, don't sweat it. I thought it was even an amusing joke.
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2019-04-15, 02:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1161 - The Discussion Thread
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2019-04-15, 02:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1161 - The Discussion Thread
Actually, technically Hilgya is Team Evil adjacent (the Linear Guild was working with Team Evil), so there is a tiny possibility that Team Evil does have a Dwarf in the fight (I would not want to call Hilgya a dog, she can be quite vindictive about slights on her... it would also mean we are calling Kutzu a little SOB).
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2019-04-15, 02:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1161 - The Discussion Thread
Hilgya, and I don't think she's with team Evil at all.
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2019-04-15, 02:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-04-15, 02:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1161 - The Discussion Thread
Hilgya used to work for the Linear Guild, who used to work for Xykon. It's been well over 1,000 strips since either of those was the case. I'd say Hilgya is (probably) Linear-Guild-adjacent, and the Linear Guild is within a 10-foot radius of Team Evil. It's possible that Hilgya is adjacent to Team Evil, but there are plenty more ways for her to be at least two spaces away.
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2019-04-15, 03:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1161 - The Discussion Thread
These are 2 Large elementals, right? (eyeballing from size)
I'm suddenly craving for the insta-kill plutonium Elemental that will surely and realistically happen one day.
So, Roy's Mind Blank is offline, then?
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2019-04-15, 03:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1161 - The Discussion Thread
Should be large elementals, since the Exarggh got two of them from Summon VII. The Pu elemental would be interesting, from a distance. Louis Slotin could tell you more, but you'd need a Ouija board.
I guess the Order has been in Firmament more than 24 hours after V casted that spell on Roy. One reason I thought the LDW would lead with GDM is so any opponents' buffs that'd protect against its save or suck arsenal could be removed. Worked anyway, I guess. Now comes the devouring...
I'm with Peelee: that long shot of the battle is a fantastically drawn scene.
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2019-04-15, 03:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1161 - The Discussion Thread
Sudden thought after watching an old "Lois and Clark" episode: Lane Davies aka Tempus is probably the best possible choice to portray an animated or live action Xykon if either of those ever becomes reality--he was born in 1950 and Tempus' personality is a close match for pre-lich Xykon IMO. Just my two cents.
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2019-04-15, 03:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-04-15, 03:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1161 - The Discussion Thread
Is there a thread listing every instance of a character lifting their finger to point something out? It never ceases to make me laugh
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SpoilerIt's like, a secret to everybody or whatever.
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2019-04-15, 03:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1161 - The Discussion Thread
There were elemental beings (Celia is a Sylph, an Air Elemental being), but not actual pure Elemental Golems of Earth, Fire, Wind, Water, Shadow, Light, Metal, Wood, Sand, Magma, Ooze, Ice, Salt, etc.
Turns out, there was a Water Elemental born from 2 Hydrogen Elementals and an Oxygen Elemental in a bonus strip of Book 4 (Don't Split the Party), but besides that, the only elementals we had seen until now have been Redcloak's Periodic Table Elementals. Too bad Redcloak hasn't learned chemistry, otherwise he'd know he just needs to summon carbon Elementals or Aluminum and Oxygen Elementals, and he can made Diamonds and Sapphires galore respectively.
As I said, adjacent, not Evil (Despite what some people think, that she is a heartless monster).
Loki wanted the Talisman so Nale didn't.
Does he need one? No. Does he have one? Almost absolutely, but we have not yet learned it.
Hilgya could have made a deal with the IFCC, who also seem to have some influence still over the Linear Guild, and may even be manipulating Team Evil. We don't know all the ramifications, and would need a pretty impressive murder board and venn diagram hybrid to track all the intersections and links in the Stickverse.
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2019-04-15, 03:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1161 - The Discussion Thread
Roy's seems frozen into the exact same position and expression now as O-Chul was when he wound up at MitD's tea party. Flopsy is now Stiffly.
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2019-04-15, 03:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1161 - The Discussion Thread
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2019-04-15, 03:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1161 - The Discussion Thread
You know you're nearing the endgame when the foes start using advanced tactical strategies instead of "3 traps+slash until things die".
An explanation of why MitD being any larger than Huge is implausible.
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2019-04-15, 04:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-04-15, 04:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1161 - The Discussion Thread
To throw at the Azurites to mock them, obviously.
I'm pretty sure Redcloak has attempted to harvest diamonds from Carbon Elementals in the past, but eventually stopped either because it was too difficult or the other elementals started complaining.
Also, if he can make sapphires, he can make rubies with a few relatively minor changes. Sadly, he cannot make Emerald through this process.Last edited by Squire Doodad; 2019-04-15 at 04:17 PM.
An explanation of why MitD being any larger than Huge is implausible.
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2019-04-15, 04:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1161 - The Discussion Thread
Redcloak's new Implosion: heat target up with divine fire, get grappled by Ice and Water Elemental.
Boom.
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2019-04-15, 04:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1161 - The Discussion Thread
Panel 9.
Roy, that was close, you almost had another 443."You... little... *****. It's what my old man called me, it's like it was my name, and I proved him right, by killing all the wrong people. [And], I love ya Henry, and I'll never call you anything but your name, but you gotta decide; are you gonna lay there, swallow that blood in your mouth, or are you gonna stand up, spit it out, and go spill theirs?" - Unknown
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2019-04-15, 04:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1161 - The Discussion Thread
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2019-04-15, 05:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-04-15, 05:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1161 - The Discussion Thread
However you'd classify a service animal (how about "service animal"? Not every dwarf has class levels), I think familiars and animal companions could be exempt too.
Edit: I mean, familiars and animal companions of dwarves who would normally be allowed to pass through the orange barrier.Last edited by Aveline; 2019-04-15 at 05:18 PM.
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2019-04-15, 05:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-04-15, 05:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1161 - The Discussion Thread
I am glad Scruffy survived but very angry at the worm/elementals for hurting him (Scruffy has damage marks).
Also, someone else mentioned a plutonium elemental as an instakill. I'd suggest a Polonium elemental would be even more deadly. Or summoning a Cesium Elemental on your underwater adventure. :)SpoilerI Am A: Chaotic Neutral Human Sorcerer (5th Level)
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2019-04-15, 06:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1161 - The Discussion Thread
Astatine Elemental. Biggest you can summon.
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2019-04-15, 06:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1161 - The Discussion Thread
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