The Easy Exploit Compendium

[Flame of Anor]

Alright, fellows, let's compile some easy exploits. We all know that if you take three different prestige classes and 5 feats and a couple ACFs you can do lots of broken things, but how about the simple stuff, where you only need a couple spells or feats? Make sure they have catchy titles.

Here's an example:

"The Divine Drag Race"
Release the energy from a persisted Footsteps Of The Divine (SpC) and you can add about 27 miles to your base land speed for one round.

EDIT: here's another one:

"The Bottomless Pit"
Put a portable hole on the bottom of another portable hole (there's no rule that says anything happens if you do that). Put another one on the bottom of that one. Repeat ad inopiam fossarum (i.e. until you're out of holes).


Now go, my minions!

[Cog]

"The Divine Drag Race"
Release the energy from a persisted Footsteps Of The Divine (SpC) and you can add about 27 miles to your base land speed for one round.

The errata for Persist killed that one; it doesn't work on dischargeable spells now.

[Flame of Anor]

The errata for Persist killed that one; it doesn't work on dischargeable spells now.

Footsteps is not dischargeable--the word "discharge" is nowhere in the spell description. Besides, the errata is trying to say that you can't have, say, infinite stoneskin or protection from arrows. Basically, if it can run out of oomph before the duration expires, then you can't persist it. But Footsteps doesn't run out of oomph--you just shorten the duration.

[Cog]

That only works if you take discharge to only mean references to the word "discharge" specifically, and not as a simple English word, which it also is. You can most certainly discharge Footsteps of the Divine (CC, by the way, not SPC), even though the spell lacks that particular word. Note that the spell's duration also has the (D) tag.

[Yorae]

That only works if you take discharge to only mean references to the word "discharge" specifically, and not as a simple English word, which it also is. You can most certainly discharge Footsteps of the Divine (CC, by the way, not SPC), even though the spell lacks that particular word. Note that the spell's duration also has the (D) tag.

The "(D)" tag just means that the caster can dismiss the spell at will to end it. It doesn't indicate anything about discharging.

[myancey]

The "(D)" tag just means that the caster can dismiss the spell at will to end it. It doesn't indicate anything about discharging.

True that.

From SRD:

(D) Dismissible

If the Duration line ends with "(D)," you can dismiss the spell at will. You must be within range of the spell’s effect and must speak words of dismissal, which are usually a modified form of the spell’s verbal component. If the spell has no verbal component, you can dismiss the effect with a gesture. Dismissing a spell is a standard action that does not provoke attacks of opportunity.

[Flame of Anor]

Hey, guys, this is not the "Let's discuss rules-interpretation minutiae" thread. Let's keep on topic.

[Tokiko Mima]

Here's mine:

"Dragonfire Napalm"
Take a level of Dragonfire Adept, and the Entangling Exhalation (RoD) feat. Now you can entangle enemies in a 30' line or 15' cone for 1d4 rounds, whilst doing 1d6 damage/round to them. This requires only a standard action, works at level 1 and automatically applies on anything that lacks Evasion.

Compare to the average damage of a level 1 fighter or sorcerer.

Footsteps is not dischargeable--the word "discharge" is nowhere in the spell description. Besides, the errata is trying to say that you can't have, say, infinite stoneskin or protection from arrows. Basically, if it can run out of oomph before the duration expires, then you can't persist it. But Footsteps doesn't run out of oomph--you just shorten the duration.

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure the Complete Champion errata added the words 'or until discharged' to the duration text. It was more or less done specifically to make sure you could not Persist Footsteps of the Divine.

[Traab]

This is HILARIOUS. The topic didnt even get past the first post before dissolving into an argument. I almost feel like im in a D&D game, listening to a player try to shoe horn in an unexpected idea past the DM who isnt buying the justification. "No really! If my minotaur team mate tosses my halfling wizard into the air and I cast wall of iron over the top of the dragon, it should do relatively massive damage when it smashes into his skull!"

[Radar]

Persisted Mass Lesser Vigor solves all healing problems.

"Or we could summon a horde of angels." - Gate any creature, that has Gate as a spell or SLA. You know the rest.

Candle of Invocation (Lawful Evil) - call an Efreet and use one of the wishes to get another Candle.

[SleepyShadow]

Drowning yourself to 0 hp to avoid taking damage that would otherwise kill you. That is the general solution to stopping an "infinite damage loop."

[Amphetryon]

Drowning yourself to 0 hp to avoid taking damage that would otherwise kill you. That is the general solution to stopping an "infinite damage loop."

Other than the whole "now try to stop drowning" problem that arises thereafter.

[Vladislav]

The Wireless Troll

When away on a long journey, you leave some minions to guard your castle. They need a way to get in touch with you; unfortunately they're all low level losers and can't cast Sending. No problem! Easy solution - take a Troll finger with you, while your minions keep the rest of the troll captive and tied up. When they need to send you an urgent message, they slice the Troll into tiny pieces, smaller than a finger. Voila, the finger you're carrying is now the largest part of the Troll, and starts regenerating - so you know your minions have something important for you, and can cast Sending yourself.

The Faster-than-Light Horseback Travel

Get a +19 Ride modifier. Line an arbitrarily-long row of horses, side to side. Mount one horse as a free action (DC 20 Ride check, achieved automatically), dismount as a free action on the other side (again, DC 20). Repeat as many times as needed, moving along the row of horses at arbitrarily high speed.

[nyarlathotep]

Other than the whole "now try to stop drowning" problem that arises thereafter.

Yes as there is no RAW way to stop drowning ever. At best you net yourself an extra round or two of life.

[NNescio]

This is HILARIOUS. The topic didnt even get past the first post before dissolving into an argument. I almost feel like im in a D&D game, listening to a player try to shoe horn in an unexpected idea past the DM who isnt buying the justification. "No really! If my minotaur team mate tosses my halfling wizard into the air and I cast wall of iron over the top of the dragon, it should do relatively massive damage when it smashes into his skull!"

This is trivial to shut down.

RAW: A creature or object brought into being or transported to your location by a conjuration spell cannot appear inside another creature or object, nor can it appear floating in an empty space. It must arrive in an open location on a surface capable of supporting it.

This restriction is probably put there to prevent whale-bombing. Also, if this restriction is not present, you don't need to toss the wizard -- he can aim spells vertically just fine.

[Kansaschaser]

The Faster-than-Light Horseback Travel

Get a +19 Ride modifier. Line an arbitrarily-long row of horses, side to side. Mount one horse as a free action (DC 20 Ride check, achieved automatically), dismount as a free action on the other side (again, DC 20). Repeat as many times as needed, moving along the row of horses at arbitrarily high speed.

Oh my! I'm laughing so hard it made me cry. That's about as funny as the commoner rail gun.

Instead of having roads and railways, you could have clockwork horses lined up from city to city. Then to make sure people have enough ride skill to accomplish "faster-than-light travel", you give each one of them a magic item that gives them a +10 competence bonus to ride (then tell them to "take 10"). So once they paid for their ticket to travel to another city, you give them the item. They hop on the first horse and they end up in a new city that same round.

This is trivial to shut down.

RAW: A creature or object brought into being or transported to your location by a conjuration spell cannot appear inside another creature or object, nor can it appear floating in an empty space. It must arrive in an open location on a surface capable of supporting it.

This restriction is probably put there to prevent whale-bombing. Also, if this restriction is not present, you don't need to toss the wizard -- he can aim spells vertically just fine.

My trick is a little more simple.

Instant Crush Death from Stone Shape

While inside a cave or underground, you cast Stone Shape and have it make a 1 inch thick space between a 10 foot cubed stone above a monster you want to kill. The resulting stone that falls on the monster (if it failed it's reflex save) would do 12,096D6 damage. That is according to the damage caused by falling objects. Since a falling object does 1D6 damage per 25 pounds of weight. A 10 foot cube of stone would weigh about 302,400 pounds.

[hobbitkniver]

The Wireless Troll

When away on a long journey, you leave some minions to guard your castle. They need a way to get in touch with you; unfortunately they're all low level losers and can't cast Sending. No problem! Easy solution - take a Troll finger with you, while your minions keep the rest of the troll captive and tied up. When they need to send you an urgent message, they slice the Troll into tiny pieces, smaller than a finger. Voila, the finger you're carrying is now the largest part of the Troll, and starts regenerating - so you know your minions have something important for you, and can cast Sending yourself.

The Faster-than-Light Horseback Travel

Get a +19 Ride modifier. Line an arbitrarily-long row of horses, side to side. Mount one horse as a free action (DC 20 Ride check, achieved automatically), dismount as a free action on the other side (again, DC 20). Repeat as many times as needed, moving along the row of horses at arbitrarily high speed.

Haha these are great. The secondm one reminds me of the minecart travel by similar methods in Minecraft.

[Loki_42]

Hey, guys, this is not the "Let's discuss rules-interpretation minutiae" thread. Let's keep on topic.

Uhh... We're trying to find easy tricks to break the game. How is that not rules-interpretation minutiae?

[sreservoir]

Oh my! I'm laughing so hard it made me cry. That's about as funny as the commoner rail gun.

fun fact: ride can be used with anything, even things unsuitable as mounts. if you manage to get yourself down to small, and have a +24 ride check, you can even do it with commoners.

[Vladislav]

fun fact: ride can be used with anything, even things unsuitable as mounts. if you manage to get yourself down to small, and have a +24 ride check, you can even do it with commoners.

I'm gonna make a Halfling Ranger with Leadership right now.

[myancey]

The Wireless Troll

When away on a long journey, you leave some minions to guard your castle. They need a way to get in touch with you; unfortunately they're all low level losers and can't cast Sending. No problem! Easy solution - take a Troll finger with you, while your minions keep the rest of the troll captive and tied up. When they need to send you an urgent message, they slice the Troll into tiny pieces, smaller than a finger. Voila, the finger you're carrying is now the largest part of the Troll, and starts regenerating - so you know your minions have something important for you, and can cast Sending yourself.

The wireless troll is sick. Pretty dang inventive.

Uhh... We're trying to find easy tricks to break the game. How is that not rules-interpretation minutiae?

Truth.

[hydroplatypus]

step 1: cast illusory wall when chased
step2: cast prismatic wall about 1 inch behind illusory wall
step 3: laugh

[sreservoir]

I'm gonna make a Halfling Ranger with Leadership right now.

why not a psywar thrallherd?

they can even compression two sizes down and do it with tiny creatures.

[Traab]

This is trivial to shut down.

RAW: A creature or object brought into being or transported to your location by a conjuration spell cannot appear inside another creature or object, nor can it appear floating in an empty space. It must arrive in an open location on a surface capable of supporting it.

This restriction is probably put there to prevent whale-bombing. Also, if this restriction is not present, you don't need to toss the wizard -- he can aim spells vertically just fine.

I was just listing something silly sounding at random, not trying to come up with an honest to god off the wall idea off the top of my head. I hope you at least got the point I was trying to make.

[WinWin]

Antihero Complex

Vow of Poverty + Embrace the Dark Chaos + Shun the Dark Chaos

[myancey]

I was just listing something silly sounding at random, not trying to come up with an honest to god off the wall idea off the top of my head. I hope you at least got the point I was trying to make.

But conversations like this are supposed to be debated. Some people have really wrong ideas--and should be shown the light of RAW.

[Kansaschaser]

Antihero Complex

Vow of Poverty + Embrace the Dark Chaos + Shun the Dark Chaos

I know what Vow of Poverty is. What is "Embrace the Dark Chaos" and "Shun the Dark Chaos". Also, where are they from? What does that combo accomplish?

[Douglas]

Footsteps is not dischargeable--the word "discharge" is nowhere in the spell description. Besides, the errata is trying to say that you can't have, say, infinite stoneskin or protection from arrows. Basically, if it can run out of oomph before the duration expires, then you can't persist it. But Footsteps doesn't run out of oomph--you just shorten the duration.

Correction: The errata for Footsteps of the Divine killed that exploit by adding "discharge" phrasing.

The Wireless Troll and pony express ideas work, though, and are hilarious.

I know what Vow of Poverty is. What is "Embrace the Dark Chaos" and "Shun the Dark Chaos". Also, where are they from? What does that combo accomplish?

Embrace the Dark Chaos is a spell that replaces any feat you have with an Abyssal Heritor feat that you qualify for. Shun the Dark Chaos replaces any Abyssal Heritor feat you have with any feat you qualify for. Combine the two, and you can completely reassign your feats without restriction.

Now do that with all the bonus feats from Vow of Poverty. Instead of having a bunch of near worthless bonus Exalted feats, you have the same number of the best feats you can find from all of D&D 3.5 that you qualify for. Oh, and since technically you gained these feats from spells, you keep them even if you swap out Vow of Poverty itself.

[WinWin]

Embrace the Dark Chaos and Shun the Dark Chaos are spells from Feindish Codex 1. You replace any feat with an abyssal heritor feat with one spell, then replace an abyssal heritor feat with any other feat with a the second spell.

You effectively trade your free exalted feats from Vow Of Povery with any feat you qualify for. If you're feeling ornery, trade out Vow of Poverty as well, then demand full WBL from your DM.

[Traab]

But conversations like this are supposed to be debated. Some people have really wrong ideas--and should be shown the light of RAW.

Pfft, RAW, you say that term like it actually MEANS something. RAW is just for downer DMs who refuse to let their players enjoy themselves.