Class and Level Geekery XVI - These Characters May Now Drive the Plot

[Ephemera]

Well, 1/20 x 1/20 = 1/400.

So yes, for loose definitions of "a million."

I mean, this is obviously taking it way too seriously, but the joke on question specifically said that relatively unlikely things were unlikely, as opposed to true one in a million, so 1/400 definitely does not qualify as a sure thing by Elan-logic (Elongic?)...

[Peelee]

I mean, this is obviously taking it way too seriously, but the joke on question specifically said that relatively unlikely things were unlikely, as opposed to true one in a million, so 1/400 definitely does not qualify as a sure thing by Elan-logic (Elongic?)...

Note to self: be less subtle.

[Ephemera]

Note to self: be less subtle.

For what it’s worth, I was quoting you, but I knew that’s what you were saying. What I was saying was probably unnecessary anyway, of course, but...

[D.One]

For what it’s worth, I was quoting you, but I knew that’s what you were saying. What I was saying was probably unnecessary anyway, of course, but...

Don't worry. As a great Minrah enthusiastic, I grant you the Minrah's Medal of Honor for Overanalyzing Speech

[MultitudeMan]

Don't worry. As a great Minrah enthusiastic, I grant you the Minrah's Medal of Honor for Overanalyzing Speech

Do I qualify for the Vaarsuvius Award for Pedantry by pointing out that "enthusiastic" is an adjective, and you probably meant "enthusiast"?

[D.One]

Do I qualify for the Vaarsuvius Award for Pedantry by pointing out that "enthusiastic" is an adjective, and you probably meant "enthusiast"?

Most certainly you do, oh, estimated fellow, even though your assertive might have been too brief to achieve the highest ranks of Verbose Pedantry.

That said, I'm an enthusiastic enthusiast.

[Quizatzhaderac]

For the next (17th) iteration of this thread I purpose "Class and Level Geekery XVI - True thread resurrection"

Well, 1/20 x 1/20 = 1/400.

So yes, for loose definitions of "a million."

Citing precedent from Guards! Guards!

Colon: What if it's just a thousand-to-one chance?
Carot: What?
Colon: Anyone ever heard of a thousand-to-one shot coming up?
Carrot: Don't be daft, Sergeant, No one ever saw a thousand-to-one chance come up. The odds against it are—
Carrot: millions to one

Technically there is, Arcane Trickster, but it sucks. Xykon is an epic Sorcerer who wants as much sorcerer power as he gets and crafts his own epic artifacts, so I don't think there's any class or prestige class other than Sorcerer that he'd actually consider taking.

According to SRD Arcane trickster includes " an increased effective level of spellcasting". Although, it makes no mention of increasing spells known, which would make it suck for a sorcerer.

AFAIK, all of the "caster" prestige classes (in core) grant caster level except Dragon Disciple. Dragon Disciple is a bad fit because Xykon hasn't breathed fire or grown wings or claws. Also, the class doesn't give you new spell levels, so he couldn't have more than two levels and still get ninth level spells.

Arch-mage complements well as it grants spell slots, cast level and spells known (which is everything sorcerer grants) and it would also allow him to pick spell-like ability (energy drain) which would give him an extra daily casting of the spell; although I wouldn't say there's enough evidence to say that's specially the case.

Do I qualify for the Vaarsuvius Award for Pedantry by pointing out that "enthusiastic" is an adjective, and you probably meant "enthusiast"?

We can make adjectives into nouns by adding a suffix. In this cases we'd want "enthusiasticant"

[Schroeswald]

For the next (17th) iteration of this thread I purpose "Class and Level Geekery XVI - True thread resurrection"

If we want a true resurrection name it'd have to be True Threadsurrection.

[D.One]

Class and Level Geekery XVII - Geekeor Swarm

Edit:

Now I thought of:

Class and Level Geekery XVII - All We Need to Close the Rifts

[danielxcutter]

Class and Level Geekery XVII - Geekeor Swarm

Edit:

Now I thought of:

Class and Level Geekery XVII - All We Need to Close the Rifts

I second Geekeor Swarm.

[D.One]

I second Geekeor Swarm.

Is it possible to put Xykon's smilie on the Thread title?

[Squire Doodad]

I second Geekeor Swarm.

Geekeor Swarm sounds good.

[Jasdoif]

Is it possible to put Xykon's smilie on the Thread title?

I rather doubt it, since it doesn't show up in post titles.

[Lvl 2 Expert]

I'm sure this has been answered dozens of times, because it's pretty old material, but I'm wondering about Belkar's wisdom.

Wis 8-9 (ability score penalty, and can use a third-level scroll when buffed).

The cure serious wounds scroll was probably written by a cleric, making it a third level scroll, but on the ranger list cure serious wounds is level 4. So wouldn't that mean Belkar has managed to lose wisdom since the early comics?

[Ephemera]

I'm sure this has been answered dozens of times, because it's pretty old material, but I'm wondering about Belkar's wisdom.

The cure serious wounds scroll was probably written by a cleric, making it a third level scroll, but on the ranger list cure serious wounds is level 4. So wouldn't that mean Belkar has managed to lose wisdom since the early comics?

IIRC the issue is that it’s kind of nonsensical for scrolls to use the users level instead of the writer’s (what if it’s someone using UMD, how do we know what level to use?). There’s no truly satisfying answer in the absence of an explicit WotC ruling about this, so I think we decided to just assume that the scroll carries a level based on its creator, mostly because assuming it’s level 4 yields a result of a wisdom for Belkar that contradicts other evidence.

[Lvl 2 Expert]

Okay so it's one of those small gaps in the mechanics everyone has to houserule. Makes sense, thanks.

[Ephemera]

Yah. It was the subject of considerable debate though, and it’s entirely possible that I’m mis-representing the gist of it (although not on purpose...).

[D.One]

I rather doubt it, since it doesn't show up in post titles.

Oh, so sad... The impact¹ would be greater with "Geekeor Swarm"



_{1 - Pun, as most of the time, intended}

[Lvl 2 Expert]

Yah. It was the subject of considerable debate though, and it’s entirely possible that I’m mis-representing the gist of it (although not on purpose...).

I actually managed to stumble across the answer when looking up the rules for another situation in the comic:

"Likewise, some divine spells are different in level for clerics and druids than they are for paladins and rangers. Such spells appear at the level appropriate to a cleric or druid (considered the default because paladins and rangers typically don’t involve themselves in scribing scrolls)." Source: SRD

For the purpose of scrolls, every spell on the cleric list is a cleric spell, and the same goes for wizards. Only exclusive ranger spells would go by their ranger list spell level. So 8-9 wis it is.

[D.One]

It's a little detail, and one that we probably already believed to be true, but now we have stated confirmation that Hylgia's "armor" is plate armor.

If we agree to speculate a little more, we could use the visual similarities (aka visual clues) of both her and Durkon's armor to assume his armor is plate armor too. In this last comic, they look pretty much the same kind of armor.

[Peelee]

It's a little detail, and one that we probably already believed to be true, but now we have stated confirmation that Hylgia's "armor" is plate armor.

If we agree to speculate a little more, we could use the visual similarities (aka visual clues) of both her and Durkon's armor to assume his armor is plate armor too. In this last comic, they look pretty much the same kind of armor.

I don't know, that's pretty thin.

[D.One]

I don't know, that's pretty thin.

I meant the armor he uses nowadays

[Quizatzhaderac]

I didn't notice it at first either, but Roy destroyed his original armor. #1009 last panel.

[Peelee]

I meant the armor he uses nowadays

Huh, I thought I'd posted this already but apparently I messed it up somehow.

The armor he currently uses looks identical to the armor he used to use, so I'd say it's bog-standard plate armor, just like his old stuff. Which would also explain how he got it so quickly, that'd be easy to replace.

[Syncrogti]

Did we already decide that Kudzu has CHA +eleventy billion? I think he has some sort of enchantment spell cast on me too so i think he is a preemie spell caster.

[Reboot]

The armor he currently uses looks identical to the armor he used to use,...

Not quite - it has the "skirt plates" (I forget the proper name) Roy gained in the last art upgrade, but Durkula/Durkon didn't get until his new set. There's some smaller changes too, but that's the biggie.

[Peelee]

Not quite - it has the "skirt plates" (I forget the proper name) Roy gained in the last art upgrade, but Durkula/Durkon didn't get until his new set. There's some smaller changes too, but that's the biggie.

Well color me wrong! What are the other differences, I can't tell offhand and I'm intrigued.

[hroþila]

Not quite - it has the "skirt plates" (I forget the proper name)

Tassets? I think it's tassets

[Schroeswald]

Well color me wrong! What are the other differences, I can't tell offhand and I'm intrigued.

Off the top of my head he didn’t have gloves and now does.

[Jasdoif]

Tassets? I think it's tassets

Faulds, I think?