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2021-11-18, 10:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-11-18, 11:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1248 - The Discussion Thread
Interesting that V decided to have Passwall from a scroll when before they memorized it (#857)
Though I suppose it's possible they didn't have time to write a scroll of it up until now
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2021-11-18, 11:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-11-18, 11:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-11-18, 11:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1248 - The Discussion Thread
Probably because he keeps needing it for some bizarre reason. Since he keeps needing it, using it on a scroll would cost him tons of XP, so he keeps preparing it, because despite its counterintuitiveness and rather niche usage, apparently he says it keeps coming up.
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I don’t think V was expecting combat that day, so they prepared a bunch of utility spells.
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2021-11-18, 12:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1248 - The Discussion Thread
But they weren't planning to go to the gate that day, just to get some information from Tarquin.
And, in any case, the actual Bigby's Hand line of spells are combat spells. We don't actually know what spell V is casting for Cat Retrieving hand, that's just what he calls it when using it to retrieve a cat.
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2021-11-18, 03:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-11-18, 03:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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The thing is the Azurites don't use a single color; they use a single hue. The use light blue, dark blue, black, white, glossy blue, off-white with a bluish tint. They sky's the limit, as long as it's blue.
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2021-11-18, 03:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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It's a touch range spell, so you'd have to be in melee range to make it work. Also it only goes 5 feet +5 more per 3 levels you have above 9th, so the most you can get below epic is 20 feet. It won't be enough to hurt anyone with fall damage, let alone kill them, but you could trap a single melee combatant small enough to fit into an 8 foot opening out of range and pelt them with spells which might have some niche usage in combat. Outside of a cramped dungeon, you'd probably be better off just flying out of range of all of the melee only combatants though, and inside of one using passwall to bypass, well, walls is likely to be much more useful than banishing one single enemy to the next floor.
Scribing a scroll of passwall would cost 562 gold and 5 silver, 45 exp, and take two days. For a level 17+ wizard those are negligible costs.Last edited by RatElemental; 2021-11-18 at 04:00 PM.
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2021-11-18, 04:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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So, you'd fall too? That's too bad. It'd be some desperate move then.
Also it only goes 5 feet +5 more per 3 levels you have above 9th, so the most you can get below epic is 20 feet. It won't be enough to hurt anyone with fall damage, let alone kill them,Forum Wisdom
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2021-11-18, 04:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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This is especially true for spells that don/t really depend on caster level to be effective. Even at minimum CL, Passwall lasts a whopping 9 hours and makes a 10ft. deep hole, which will get your party around most doors built into stone.
Also, the material component is one of the "jokey" ones
That depends on what other buffs you might have running when the floor goes awayLast edited by Psyren; 2021-11-18 at 04:15 PM.
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2021-11-18, 06:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1248 - The Discussion Thread
Drop them through the floor with passwall, dismiss the spell. Let them find their own way back
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2021-11-18, 10:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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"FOUL!"
"He's fallen out of the airship!"
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2021-11-19, 12:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Wow. That strip is 17 years old. Gah.
Yeah, I spent a stunning amount of time playing Angband and Rogue variants. They were fun, but definitely not everyone's cup of tea and crushingly unforgiving. I have a screenshot of a character I was playing in... Hengband, I want to say (edit - I went and looked it up, it was Entroband), where I was going after the Chemist, a special, extra boss after the Serpent of Chaos. My character is almost totally out of healing potions, has like 8% health and is literally surrounded by powerful monsters. I titled it "I SURRENDER!" and then I suicided the character the next turn because there was no chance of survival or beating the Chemist and it'd have taken another game of playing to build the resources back up. Yet I remember it fondly.
Into the Breach, Slay the Spire and FTL were fantastic games (and FTL being so freaking hard only adds to its charm. I've only even gotten to the final sector a few times), and I also really enjoyed Hades. The production values and voice acting on that were way better than I expected. I've heard that Necrodancer is fun but I've never tried it.Last edited by Crusher; 2021-11-19 at 01:05 AM.
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2021-11-19, 02:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1248 - The Discussion Thread
You don't necessarily have to. You melee-spell-attack the enemy and open the Passwall aperture underneath and behind the foe, then let gravity do its thing while your character remains standing on the rim. Or otherwise give the target the "this is Sparta" treatment to tip them over the edge.
Doing it on the Mechane would also leave a hole in the hull and/or deck which would last until the spell was dismissed. But in terms of general falling distance and consequent damage, yes.I prepared Explosive Runes before writing this signature.
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2021-11-19, 05:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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I have a similar memory of FTL, actually. I got to the flagship with only a hacking system, teleporter, fire bomb and a pike beam (the weakest one) and still managed to squeak a win out with clever use of those tools. Having a zoltan shield bypass helped, though.
Crypt of the Necrodancer is definitely on the light side though, unless you do all zone runs (or try to play as Aria, Bolt, Coda or Tempo). Fantastic fun either way and I highly recommend, however. The sound track alone is worth price of admission.
I've dabbled in NetHack and Slash'EM as well, think the farthest I ever got in either was a gnome archaeologist past the mall in the latter.Last edited by RatElemental; 2021-11-19 at 05:12 AM.
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I played Nethack when I was maybe 15. I played on the difficulty where whenever you die, you can choose to be restored to full health.
Even despite that, I still failed maybe two dozen runs. Running out of resources, getting surrounded by enemies I can't hurt, or getting stuck by equipping a two-handed cursed weapon with no way out. The farthest run I ever got, I fought a vampire that drained levels until I went from 18 to 1. Haven't played since.
Props to anyone who can reach the end even with cheats, let alone when you can actually die. Anyone who does challenge runs or doesn't use the wiki would have to be insane.I like heated water, not heated arguments.
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2021-11-19, 08:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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I’m surprised there aren’t magic traps that can do similar things already. Not custom magic traps, I mean in official material. Or at least something from the magazines.
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2021-11-19, 09:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1248 - The Discussion Thread
Now I am thinking if that wall is the only wall between the dungeon and the place where the paladins are...
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2021-11-19, 09:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1248 - The Discussion Thread
Death Road to Canada is probably one of my favorite rougelike games, but I agree Crypt of the NecroDancer is great too.
Oh yeah, I should probably say something about the update too. Great update. I'm glad that Passwall scroll V mentioned offhandedly is coming into play.Shh! I'm hiding.
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2021-11-19, 11:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1248 - The Discussion Thread
Yes, but he told us explicitly it keeps coming up, regardless of whether we see it on screen, which explains his motivation for preparing it.
Yes, but I was talking about Cat-Retrieving Hand, which he has prepared rather than scrolled because he says the usage keeps coming up. So if he keeps needing it, that's why he actually prepares this spell rather than using it as a scroll, whereas Passwall is a bit more of a niche usage case.
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2021-11-19, 11:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1248 - The Discussion Thread
Didn’t V use it twice? Once for Mr. Scruffy and once for Little Whiskers?
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