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    SwashbucklerGuy

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    Default Re: What class would make for a grumpy old man.

    Quote Originally Posted by Desteplo View Post
    I think there has been a huge failing to realize the true answer... Bard
    -one spell and its perfect

    Viscous mockery
    -you are welcome

    But if you needed more, your ability to teach the youngins is produced by your bardic inspiration.. or in this case old man wisdom
    I like that a old storyteller. Inspiration is old man wisdom, cunning words is the grumpy sharp tongue.

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    Imp

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    Default Re: What class would make for a grumpy old man.

    Take the Historian feet and use it to tell stories about how things were back in your days and help people at the same time.

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    Flumph

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    Fighter.

    If you see a fighter with greying hair, you know not to mess with him. Anyone who has managed to live that long in such a deadly profession is either very smart or very dangerous.

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    SwashbucklerGuy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slipperychicken View Post
    Fighter.

    If you see a fighter with greying hair, you know not to mess with him. Anyone who has managed to live that long in such a deadly profession is either very smart or very dangerous.
    I was thinking of a wisdom and intelligence based Eldritch Knight. With Feat MI druid for sheleighle.

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    Default Re: What class would make for a grumpy old man.

    So, he needs Dex, Con, Int, and now Wis...

    Right. Well, you did say Grumpy, not Wise.

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    Default Re: What class would make for a grumpy old man.

    Grumpy? A dwarf, obviously, and he got Grumpier once Snow White married that Prince and ran off to happily ever after. "No who will make pies and take care of us, did any of you think about that when you were helping her find true love? I Didn't Think So!" *Grumps about*
    Quote Originally Posted by Arcangel4774 View Post
    I'm just imagining a nature cleric or druid. "Get off my lawn... The whole world's my lawn."
    Yeah. That's a good answer, and it gets my vote.

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    I know it's not 5e, but this is my suggestion: The curmudgeon class from the Land of Nod and Blood & Treasure.

    http://matt-landofnod.blogspot.com/2...eon-class.html

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    MonkGirl

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    A wild sorcerer... the guy never had any magic his whole life, but when senility hit...

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    DwarfFighterGuy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja_Prawn View Post
    Clearly the right answer is 'no class at all'. You're an NPC stat block.

    "I remember back when your race was your class, you damned whippersnappers!"
    OMG, that brought back White Box memories!

    Nice response.
    With one exception, I play AL games only nowdays.

    I am the eternal Iconoclast.

    Mountain Dwarfs Rock!

    Song of Gorm Gulthyn
    Blessed be the HAMMER my strength which teaches my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.

    Otto von Bismarck Quotes

    When you want to fool the world, tell the truth.

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    DwarfFighterGuy

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2D8HP View Post

    Since I can seldom resist the chance to bloviate about old D&D:

    From the
    1979 Dungeons Masters Guide:

    Race:
    Human;

    Young Adult: (14-20) Subtract 1 point of wisdom, add 1 point of constitution.

    Mature: (21-40) Add 1 point of Strength, add 1 point of wisdom.

    Middle Aged: (41-60) Subtract 1 point (or half exceptional rating) of strength and 1 point of constitution; add 1 point of intelligence and1 point of wisdom.

    Old: (61-90) Subtract 2 point of strength and 2 points of dexterity, and 1 point of constitution; add 1 point of wisdom.

    Venerable: (91-120) Subtract 1 point of strength, 1 point of dexterity, and 1 point of constitution; add 1 point of intelligence and 1 point of wisdom.....

    .....And that actually doesn't fit my lived experience (I'll be 49 next month).

    I was at my most intelligent (ability to learn, remember, and solve puzzles) as a teenager, and in my early 20's, but I was at my least wise (self-control).

    Wisdom increased dramatically after age 25, but intelligence started to drop as well.

    Dexterity increased until my early 30's, and then starting dropping.

    Constitution and Strength took a big hit after a job injury in my early 30's, and have held steady since.

    Intelligence started dropping faster in my 40's, and I need much more sleep to keep my wits.

    And I've seen peoples Wisdom drop dramatically after dementia hits them in their 70's.

    I've seen others retain incredibly high stats into their 80's until the death of a spouse or a traffic accident starts a steep decline.

    Peoples work and relationships look to make a dramatic difference in how fast you age.

    If you're a beloved tenured professor you'll age much slower than a mostly solitary "human forklift".

    No joke.
    Dude, you keep bringing back the memories (or is it flashbacks?) and making me feel old... dangnabbit.
    With one exception, I play AL games only nowdays.

    I am the eternal Iconoclast.

    Mountain Dwarfs Rock!

    Song of Gorm Gulthyn
    Blessed be the HAMMER my strength which teaches my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.

    Otto von Bismarck Quotes

    When you want to fool the world, tell the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZorroGames View Post
    OMG, that brought back White Box memories!

    Nice response.
    Quote Originally Posted by ZorroGames View Post
    Dude, you keep bringing back the memories (or is it flashbacks?) and making me feel old... dangnabbit.

    Super glad to have you aboard the Forum ZorroGames!

    FWIW, I (just barely played) D&D in the 1970's with a DM who used "white box" (and Greyhawk, and Blackmoor, etc.), but by the time I played the AD&D Monster Manual was already out and in use, so I didn't get to play OD&D "undiluted.

    My hats off to you.

    (also thanks again Ninja_Prawn)

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    Does the game you play feature a Dragon sitting on a pile of treasure, in a Dungeon?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja_Prawn View Post
    You're an NPC stat block."I remember when your race was your class you damned whippersnappers"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desteplo View Post
    I think there has been a huge failing to realize the true answer... Bard
    -one spell and its perfect

    Viscous mockery
    -you are welcome

    But if you needed more, your ability to teach the youngins is produced by your bardic inspiration.. or in this case old man wisdom
    Tomelocks can do it too (You could blast people all day, but this is more fun. And you can do it tied up). Though Lore's cutting words fit nicely. Pick up Inspiring Leader to insult people into temp hp.


    My vote: Undying Warlock. In time, those young whipper-snappers will start to include greybearded Dwarves and Dragons... Go Tome for the original rules (ritual) book, vicious mockery, and the ability for a scrawny old man to threaten everyone with his cane (shillelagh).

    Racewise, I prefer gnomes or halflings, as their grumpiness is more atypical, and they invoke the Miniature Senior Citizens trope.
    Why yes, Warlock is my solution for everything.

    Quote Originally Posted by obryn View Post
    Active Abilities are great because you - the player - are demonstrating your Dwarvenness or Elfishness. You're not passively a dwarf, you're actively dwarfing your way through obstacles.

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    I'd go with the UA Bard College of Whispers, just for the Venomous Words feature.

    Creating fear and paranoia for an hour just by talking to someone is the epitome of a cranky old man.
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