Who to Cast in a live action OotS?

[littlebum2002]

For Hayley I was thinking of that actress who was in the Bridget Jones movie, but I reckon she would be too old - and as has been discussed, you don't want her to be much older than Haylay (probably mid twenties).

I think Kate Upton is too skinny, she has got good tits, but is not chubby enough. But I think the Bridget Jones actress actually deliberately chubbed up for the role, so I suppose Kate Upton (or any of the other actresses suggested) could do it to play Hayley.

Whoever played the part would need to be able to confidently pull off Hayley's revealing tops and short shorts. despite not having a perfectly toned body.

Do you know who that is Littlebum? It was just a google image search, I didn't know it was an actress at all.

Agreed with everything.

I'll PM you her name. She's... an adult actress, i guess is a good way to put it. But i think she's EXACTLY how Haley looks

[Darth Paul]

I'll PM you her name. She's... an adult actress, i guess is a good way to put it. But i think she's EXACTLY how Haley looks

Just for pure research purposes, I'm curious about that name as well...

[Riftwolf]

I've got a thought on Haley: Thora Birch.
Now hear me out...
She's attractive and the right build, but you could buy her being an awkward teen with esteem and trust issues.
If anyone says she's too old, I'll point you to the fact the Rock and Samuel L Jackson have been suggested for Roy.

[2D8HP]

I've got a thought on Haley: Thora Birch....

....If anyone says she's too old.

She's only 35. Hollywood 35.

Admittedly I still think of her as the girl in Ghostworld, and I never saw her contribution to "Jeremy Iron's greatest performance" (the D&D movie).

But why not?

[Ruck]

Thora Birch's career was basically sunk by her overbearing maniac of a father. A real shame.

[Quebbster]

Just realized Kenneth Branagh could do an excellent job as Tarquin.
Also, add me to the list of people curious about that actress pictured earlier...

[Riftwolf]

Just for pure research purposes, I'm curious about that name as well...

Add me to the list too. I don't like the idea of not knowing something someone else does.

[littlebum2002]

Thora Birch's career was basically sunk by her overbearing maniac of a father. A real shame.

Correction: Thora Birch's career was basically sunk by her decision, as a grown adult, to have her overbearing maniac of a father as her manager. All she had to do was fire him.

Just realized Kenneth Branagh could do an excellent job as Tarquin.
Also, add me to the list of people curious about that actress pictured earlier...

Add me to the list too. I don't like the idea of not knowing something someone else does.

Great, so now I'm "that guy"

[Peelee]

Great, so now I'm "that guy"

It makes your handle more amusing, if that's any consolation.

[Quebbster]

Great, so now I'm "that guy"

I have been "that guy" on occasion too. Just not here. :p

[Ruck]

Correction: Thora Birch's career was basically sunk by her decision, as a grown adult, to have her overbearing maniac of a father as her manager. All she had to do was fire him.

That's pretty unfair. He had managed her career since she was a child and she was 19 or so when she had her last major role. Do you really think 19 year-olds are totally rational business decision makers who can easily ditch a parent without the slightest thought or internal conflict about it?

[Riftwolf]

Great, so now I'm "that guy"

If it makes you feel better, I used to be notorious in my wow guild for arguing with a guy for about two hours that Ron Jeremy wasn't the live action Mario from the Saturday morning show. Someone changed my guild bio to 'this guy really knows his p**n (think it was a King of the Hill reference)'
If you'd just told us outright, I wouldn't have cared.

Moving on!

Anyone had any thoughts for Sabine?

[Quebbster]

Anyone had any thoughts for Sabine?

Rosario Dawson?
Though we might have that age issue there...

[littlebum2002]

That's pretty unfair. He had managed her career since she was a child and she was 19 or so when she had her last major role. Do you really think 19 year-olds are totally rational business decision makers who can easily ditch a parent without the slightest thought or internal conflict about it?

Yeah, that's a good point.

If it makes you feel better, I used to be notorious in my wow guild for arguing with a guy for about two hours that Ron Jeremy wasn't the live action Mario from the Saturday morning show. Someone changed my guild bio to 'this guy really knows his p**n (think it was a King of the Hill reference)'
If you'd just told us outright, I wouldn't have cared.

Moving on!

I was just worried it might be against the forum rules.

[KorvinStarmast]

Anyone had any thoughts for Sabine?

Beyoncé, but I am not sure anyone making the OoTS live show could afford her. She's a mega star.

[Emanick]

Rosario Dawson?
Though we might have that age issue there...

Yeah, she's nowhere near 2,000.

[Peelee]

Someone changed my guild bio to 'this guy really knows his p**n (think it was a King of the Hill reference)'

That was a great episide. And one of the few where Dale's high-level paranoia is proven to be somewhat justified.

[dps]

Add me to the list too. I don't like the idea of not knowing something someone else does.

To be honest, I'll admit watching enough, uhm, adult entertainment that I feel like I should know who she is, but I don't. PM me with her name, too.

[Riftwolf]

Beyoncé, but I am not sure anyone making the OoTS live show could afford her. She's a mega star.

Hmm I don't agree with there being one degree of separation between a Hypothetical webcomic adaptation and the Austin Powers movies.

[Ruck]

Hmm I don't agree with there being one degree of separation between a Hypothetical webcomic adaptation and the Austin Powers movies.

*frowns, throws away paper with "IDEA: Mike Myers as both Roy AND Xykon" written on it*

[Fincher]

Elan's looks aren't mentioned so much that I'd assume there to be some huge gulf between him and Haley; I've always interpreted her as being pretty at least. And while Hollywood is proportionally more attractive than the world in general, it's not like this hypothetical show is supposed to exist outside of Hollywood.

Add to that that you want to make sure you get someone who can act the role, and that I wouldn't be concerned about matching the comic exactly, and I think someone like Jane Levy would be more than adequate.

[Darth Paul]

*frowns, throws away paper with "IDEA: Mike Myers as both Roy AND Xykon" written on it*

The kid from the Halloween movies? I don't really see him as either one, to be honest...

[2D8HP]

Elan's looks aren't mentioned so much that I'd assume there to be some huge gulf between him and Haley; I've always interpreted her as being pretty at least. And while Hollywood.

Haley is a little trickier in that she perceives herself as overweight, and since the character isn't as oblivious as Elan, you have to cast for that.

Note: Most American women think that American men want skinnier women than they actually do.

Most American men think that American women want bulkier men than they actually do.

Anyway Elan is easier to cast, just pick one of the four Chris's:

[Grey Watcher]

Haley is a little trickier in that she perceives herself as overweight, and since the character isn't as oblivious as Elan, you have to cast for that.

Really? I don't doubt you, but I could use some citations because I've apparently overlooked that whole facet of her character.

[2D8HP]

Really? I don't doubt you, but I could use some citations because I've apparently overlooked that whole facet of her character.

Doubt away!

A short search to see if my feeble memory was true only really delivered:

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0319.html

And that's just the "self loathing" aspect of her personality.

Mostly she just refers to others as "skinny":

http://oots.wikia.com/wiki/959

I should probably search more but I just now discovered "creative" OotS fan-fiction that "merits further research".

[Peelee]

Mostly she just refers to others as "skinny":

http://oots.wikia.com/wiki/959

Imean, in context, it's not "just referring to others as 'skinny.'"

Bandana gives her some clothes. Haley thinks they were Bandana's. Haley is surprised they fit, because Bandana is so skinny. Bandana explains they belonged to her ex, who was curvy like Haley.

That certainly gives some implications about Haley's body style.

[Grey Watcher]

Imean, in context, it's not "just referring to others as 'skinny.'"

Bandana gives her some clothes. Haley thinks they were Bandana's. Haley is surprised they fit, because Bandana is so skinny. Bandana explains they belonged to her ex, who was curvy like Haley.

That certainly gives some implications about Haley's body style.

I guess I interpreted it as more to do with things like bone structure and other more immutable things that affect a given person's size and shape. Celia's "bony fairy butt" to me suggested she's got a build like Twiggy, where her whole frame is just really narrow and slender. (As my grandfather would've joked, "She'd have to step twice to cast a shadow.") Bandana I imagined as being more solid, but still fairly square; if you traced her silhoutte on some paper, the line between her armpit and her hip would be pretty close to straight (no pun intended). Haley, on the other hand, I pictured as having something closer to an "hourglass figure" (albeit less extreme than that phrase calls to mind for me).

Of course, that's my subjective inference from those snippets of dialogue; your mileage may vary, as always. Which also gives leeway to the fictional casting directors for this fictional movie/tv show/web series as well.

Anyway, yeah, that's my two cp on that particular tangent.

(And no, I can't think of any actual on topic suggestions I haven't already made. )

[Fincher]

Imean, in context, it's not "just referring to others as 'skinny.'"

Bandana gives her some clothes. Haley thinks they were Bandana's. Haley is surprised they fit, because Bandana is so skinny. Bandana explains they belonged to her ex, who was curvy like Haley.

That certainly gives some implications about Haley's body style.

It's hard to say, because while curvy is often used to refer to weight, they're not really the same thing. Jennifer Love Hewitt was curvy in I Know What You Did Last Summer without being remotely heavy, although it would still affect her ability to share clothes with some of the other women in Hollywood. The question then is which way Bandana meant it, where you've got to account for Haley's own self-image and the male characters ogling her and the part where they misunderstand talk about her gemstones.

Haley is a little trickier in that she perceives herself as overweight, and since the character isn't as oblivious as Elan, you have to cast for that.

You have to cast for that if you're determined to have her look exactly as described, but then only so much of any given work survives Hollywood adaptation. I don't think an occasional comment put into a lengthy webcomic with stick figures is where they'd change their ways. Carrie's been adapted three times, and none of them are overweight, and she's supposed to be unattractive.

On the TV show Parks and Recreation, there's a running joke that they have one of the most overweight towns in the country. Then you look at the characters, and there's only two in the main cast who could be called overweight, and it's not like they're morbidly obese. The guest characters are rarely anything but thin, and even the extras and bit parts that show up in the public forums indicate a population that's much less heavy than most real world American towns.

My point is that even if they went there, unless they're consistent in how they portray other women in the OotS world, then it's not going to give the impression that Haley is some average girl who's jealous of the more skinny women. Insteady, she'd be heavier than most despite being someone who fights people/monsters for a living. It would define her more than it's really meant to.

For my part, I'd be unfazed even if they cast someone rail thin, because I accept a degree of change in adaptations, and Haley's body type isn't a fundamental aspect of the comic. This didn't even start coming up until we were pretty well into the comic, and by that part I already had something of a mental image of the character that was more moderately updated by comments about her body. Most fanart seems to present her as skinny, actually, whether that's because it preceded these details or because people developed an idea of her appearance based on how she was presented early on and stuck with it.

So if you take Jane Levy from Suburgatory and give her her hair from Monster Trucks, that to me is pretty much uncanny. Even if you did Jane Levy from Monster Trucks straight out, I'd consider that a win, overall.

[2D8HP]

I guess I interpreted it as more to do with things like bone structure and other more immutable things that affect a given person's....

No worries!

It's just that if you cast an actress like Karen Gillan (who would otherwise be fine) as Haley, when she calls Bandana "skinny", or Celia "bony", those actresses would then need to be disturbingly thin.

But, as much as I like to see someone like Christina Rene Hendricks, Haley should also be believably athletic, so that's a difficult fit.

Now even though I earlier suggested one of the "four Chris's" (Evans, Hemsworth, O'Donnell, or Pine) as Elan, I actually imagine him as thinner than that, but I don't know actors that would fit the bill. I just saw '71 and Jack O'Connell was great in it, but I don't know if he can do comedy well enough to do Elan.

Vaarsuvius should be thin, and besides Tilda Swinton, I can imagine Alan Cumming or Tom Hiddleston in the role.

Durkon and Roy should be big.

Durkon should be tan, and there's a bunch of actors that fit the bill, but any that can also do the accent escape me.

Roy needs to be dark skinned, demonstrate intelligence, and strength, which is why I suggested Idris Elba, but as others point out, he's old for the part, with other actors that I otherwise think would fit being even older, so I just don't know a good substitute yet (the other actors suggested seem too light, or I just don't know their work).

[Darth Paul]

In our fictional film, there's plenty of casting wiggle room, even on such things as skin tone. After all, certain segments of the audience flipped out when Idris Elba was cast as Heimdall. I'm not suggesting a wholesale race lift for the cast, but trying to nail a particular look based on the way a character is drawn might distract from an otherwise perfect choice. (Not that one comes to mind at the moment...)

As far as Haley, "curvy" is an almost infinitely subjective description. I just pictured her as someone with a healthy BMI, like most of the women I know and work with; generally fit, a nice build, but someone who can sit down and enjoy a waffle brunch without worrying that it's going to add 1/2 pound on the scales the next day.