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2011-01-14, 05:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge XVII
For me, this build was just a Triple Threat of Worthlessness. One, I couldn't justify taking two casting classes, just so I could ignore one of them. Two, I couldn't justify taking two caster classes, and have them both be worthless at level 20. I have to admit though, Vancian casting is not my favorite, nor is it my strongsuit. And three, if the point of the contest is to use a given Secret Ingredient, I want to use the whole thing, not part, so I couldn't bring myself to skip the second caster and only go half way.
Credit goes to whoever picked that class for the contest though. It's rough. Really stressed out my (admittedly sub-par) optimization-fu. I did have a lot of fun trying to find builds that worked, which is mostly the point.
As I said in a post above, good luck to the contestants who, unlike me, don't give up. I'm really looking forward to seeing all of the builds.
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2011-01-14, 06:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge XVII
Mine is, I think, decently strong, even with the horrid casting.
Remind me, web stuff is OK, right?
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2011-01-14, 06:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-01-14, 06:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge XVII
Last edited by Thurbane; 2011-01-14 at 06:34 PM.
My winning competition entries: Kinvig Arrumskor | The Great Pumpkinhead | Wynfrith d'Acker
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2011-01-14, 07:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge XVII
Submitted, with only -48 minutes to go... He hasn't posted them yet, so it's fine
I seriously underestimated how much effort that would take, I've made so many characters that I thought it would be easier than that. Cookies for everyone mad enough to want to do this on a regular basis, I think I'll sit out of the next one!DM: You exit the temple. Cleric, roll a knowledge(religion) check...
Cleric: *passes* "Ah yes, now I recognise it, it was a temple to the god of traps!"
Thief: *punches Cleric*
Iron Chef Contest Gallery:SpoilerIC XVII: Snow (Silver)
IC XX: Sir Karel (Bronze)
IC XXXII: 'Aundair' Yannedge-Owens (Gold)
IC XXXII: Sir Arminel Rayne (Bronze)
IC XXXIX: Hardy (Bronze)
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2011-01-14, 07:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge XVII
There's a certain base class that makes entry (and continued reqs) quite easy - be interesting to see how many builds used it...
My winning competition entries: Kinvig Arrumskor | The Great Pumpkinhead | Wynfrith d'Acker
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2011-01-14, 08:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge XVII
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2011-01-14, 08:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge XVII
Lord Raziere herd I like Blasphemy, so Urpriest Exalted as a Malefactor
Meet My Monstrous Guide to Monsters. Everything you absolutely need to know about Monsters and never thought you needed to ask.
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2011-01-14, 08:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge XVII
I most probably did to, though to be fair it offers more of a nice bonus than anything.
And I don't think I'm going to get my second one in.
Since I doubt anyone will crib off potential builds, may I suggest we post our potentials?
SpoilerDivine Bard 3/Warlock 4/Ardent Dilettante 9/Ghost Savage Progression 2/Ardent Dilettante +1. It would have worked because a least invocation counts as a 1st level Arcane spell for prerequisites; this is how Warlock can get in to Arcane Trickster. Discarded because it was weak as hell, and MAD.
Ranger 5/Unseelie Dark Hunter 5/Ardent Dilettante 10, using story to justify resurrection. Wisdom SAD, and a lot of speed. Only problem is that I couldn't get flavor to fit...
All my other builds ended up using something untenable, so...
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2011-01-14, 09:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge XVII
SpoilerActually, that build is illegal. Your caster level for invocations will work, but the invocations themselves don't count as an X-Level spell. A warlock could get into Mindbender, which requires Charm Person, since the invocation produces the necessary effect. They could get into Blood Magus, since their caster level for invocations can go above 5th. They can't get into Ardent Dilettante because they don't actually get 1st level spells.
Originally Posted by Complete Arcane p.72Last edited by Private-Prinny; 2011-01-14 at 09:40 PM.
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2011-01-14, 09:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge XVII
SpoilerAh, misread that. Good thing I didn't enter it.
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2011-01-14, 10:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge XVII
Must...resist...reading spoilers until my judging is finished... Looking forward to the builds!
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2011-01-14, 11:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge XVII
Since it's past midnight GMT, I suppose I can post this, but I'll Spoiler it for the benefit of those who are submitting late.
SpoilerThe reason I asked about spell-like abilities earlier in the thread was because I was hoping to cheese out the skills and arcane casting reqs in one go by using Factotum. But, since it says that Factotums are actually using spell-likes instead of spells. . .
On a side note, what would be the legality of meeting arcane reqs with Shadowcaster? The book actually says that mysteries are cast "As arcane spells", until the caster gets high enough level to make them spell-like.
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2011-01-14, 11:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge XVII
Lord Raziere herd I like Blasphemy, so Urpriest Exalted as a Malefactor
Meet My Monstrous Guide to Monsters. Everything you absolutely need to know about Monsters and never thought you needed to ask.
Trophy!
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2011-01-15, 12:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge XVII
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SpoilerBesides Shadowcasters, which I don't think qualify for this PrC by themselves, there's also the Savant and the Sha'ir, which are arcane+divine casters without multiclassing.
Whisper Gnome Savant 10/Ardent Dilettante 10 is a perfectly good build, in fact. It was my intended entry, but this is my 1st week of work & school and I couldn't decide on a real focus besides the usual factotum-style tricks with poison, iajutsu, and stealth, so I didn't work too hard on it.Handbooks: (Hosted on the new MixMax forums)
[3.5] The Poison Handbook
[3.5] (New) Master of Shrouds Handbook
[3.5 Base Class] Healer's Handbook
Trophies!Spoiler
Thanks to Strategos and Jumilk for the awesome Iron Chef trophies!
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2011-01-15, 12:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge XVII
While it's past the deadline, I would encourage everyone to refrain from potential build posting/discussion until the Big Reveal. The deadline has been pushed back before, you know...
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2011-01-15, 12:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge XVII
SpoilerActually, I just read that part of the book to double check. Relevant text:
Levels in shadowcaster do not qualify a character for prestige
classes with the following entry requirements:
• A caster level requirement where the type (arcane or divine)
is specified. Exception: Shadowcasters can qualify for the
mystic theurge prestige class (DMG 192). In order to do so,
they are allowed to substitute the ability to cast 2nd-level
mysteries for the ability to cast 2nd-level spells. They must
meet all other requirements for the prestige class normally.
In addition, if a shadowcaster takes cleric levels to meet
the divine spellcasting requirement, he must be devoted
to a god that grants access to one of the following domains:
Knowledge, Magic, Darkness*, or Illusion*.
*Domain described in Spell Compendium.
• Ability to cast spells of X level where the type (arcane or
divine) is specified.
• Ability to cast a specific spell, even if a mystery exists with
a similar effect
Immediately above that, it states that they DO qualify for classes that specify caster level, but no type. Similar to warlocks qualifying for some classes. Also, it specifically states that they DO qualify for Mystic Theurge, but nothing else that specifies arcane caster level.
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2011-01-15, 04:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge XVII
Sent! Bless you, Shinken, for unofficially extending the deadline!
I doubt that I'll place, but I'm looking forward to seeing how the judges deal with mine.In the Beginning Was the Word, and the Word Was Suck: A Guide to Truenamers
My compiled Iron Chef stuff!
~ Gay all day, queer all year ~
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2011-01-15, 04:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge XVII
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2011-01-15, 04:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge XVII
Well, mine has a few problems, some of which are glaringly obvious. I won't say more for fear of identifying myself, but I'm more in this to see the comments than to get the scores.
But hey, the door's open. Let's see what comes of this thing.In the Beginning Was the Word, and the Word Was Suck: A Guide to Truenamers
My compiled Iron Chef stuff!
~ Gay all day, queer all year ~
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2011-01-15, 09:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge XVII
I really hope this isn't like last time. I was hitting myself for making glaring mistakes.
However, I covered my bases this time. Wooh!
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2011-01-15, 09:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge XVII
I thought the cut off date was yesterday, anyone know when the builds are going up?
Originally Posted by Alabenson
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2011-01-15, 09:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge XVII
It was. TS has been MIA. The builds will probably show up when he does. Patience, grasshopper.
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2011-01-16, 03:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge XVII
*pokes thread for the shinken to remember his deadline was yesterday*
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2011-01-16, 04:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-01-16, 07:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge XVII
Hello, guys! Sorry for being so late. I had a very busy weekend, with relatives visiting and a 14 hour long D&D session (it was all shades of awesome).
Now, for the big reveal!
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2011-01-16, 07:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge XVII
Gotta see it all, gotta see it all!
Originally Posted by Aesc Duan DeeLast edited by true_shinken; 2011-01-16 at 07:56 PM.
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2011-01-16, 07:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge XVII
Now, back to PokemonPart two of Aesc's build.
Originally Posted by AescLast edited by true_shinken; 2011-01-16 at 07:58 PM.
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2011-01-16, 08:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge XVII
JB: Hm... It's just sliding on your knees.
KG: Is it? Or is it the single most powerful stage-move in any rocker's arsenal?
- Tenacious D in the Pick of Destiny
Originally Posted by SlideLast edited by true_shinken; 2011-01-16 at 08:01 PM.
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2011-01-16, 08:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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I can't help but picture him as this guy. I should be ashamed of myself.
Originally Posted by Snow