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2020-11-03, 02:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1218 - The Discussion Thread
even if Serini was planning a shell game type deception, it makes more sense to put the deception behind all the monsters, if you clear 100 doors finding nothing eventually your gonna get lax searching especially if the monsters exhaust all your stamina and spell slots
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2020-11-03, 02:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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........huh.
That... brings a question to mind. Or a thought or possibility. Not sure exactly.
What if Kragoor's Tombs were like instanced dungeons in an MMORPG? You go into the door, and come into this, well, dungeon with a lot of monsters to kill and more loot to get... governed by a Random Number Generator. I'm not sure if Extradimensional Stone could do that, but that sounds to me like a "Magic magic magic. Magic? Magic magic!" situation...
...but anyway, in this case, there's also a GM behind the device, who can tell the RNG what to spit out if needed. A way for Serini to keep the Gate safe from interlopers like Team Evil, but also to bring people to it if needed without having to deal with a giant pack of monsters powerful enough to give a Lich as powerful as Xykon EXP, and a way to keep the gate safe from the monsters themselves.
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Re: OOTS #1218 - The Discussion Thread
Why is any "reconciliation" needed? We don't actually know a whole lot about Serini and how she operated. We can infer she was an earnest and good-natured person, since she stepped in to prevent Dorukan, Soon and Girard from killing each other. And that she wanted to honor Kraagor with the defences she built. That's about it. The only reason to assume subterfuge is involved seems to be her class.
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2020-11-03, 05:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1218 - The Discussion Thread
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2020-11-03, 06:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-11-03, 06:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Heh, I like this observation.
I didn't do a page count, but Rich has said he expects this to be the longest book, and the previous longest (Blood Runs in the Family) was 274 strips. 29 x 9 = 261, so I'm probably actually short a little.
And just to emphasize, she's a Rogue, not a Thief. Sure, terminology-wise D&D just made that class name change between editions, but character-wise a rogue would not necessarily be so concerned with thievery.
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2020-11-03, 07:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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In the traditional 3 act structure (which is not a requirement for a good story or applicable to every story but is at least a useful framework for this sort of analysis in order to get a grasp on things), the first (where we get set-up and the inciting incident
for the story) and third (where the big boss fight is expected, as well as any complications that might arise during it) acts tend to be shorter compared to the second act. And since this is the final book in a freakin' epic series, we can probably append a 4th "act" on there to handle the epilogue stuff, wrapping up loose ends, happy endings (or sad endings, only Elan is prophesized to get a happy one), that sort of thing.
So, rounding up to 300 strips, given the expectation that this book would be longer than the previous one (and because round numbers are easier to work with)? That'd be ~60 strips for Act 1, ~120 for Act 2, ~60 for Act 3, and ~60 for the stuff for extended wrap-up bits.
I'm being very loose and rough with the math, but the point is that we're still very much within the first act right now. We may still be within the Inciting Incident, where the status quo is upended as we barrel on towards the first major plot point.
Just a general point, we're still early on in this book. It might be the final book, but that doesn't mean that there's not plenty of major revelations yet to come...
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2020-11-03, 08:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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I believe the Prophet told the Order there were 9 sides, or something like that?
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2020-11-03, 08:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-11-03, 08:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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"Besides, you know the saying: Kill one, and you are a murderer. Kill millions, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Fishman
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2020-11-03, 09:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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I think, with regards to Serini, it's worth noting that Haley is able to tune into the way Girard thought not because she's a Rogue, but because she used to be like Girard insofar as she believed that deception is the best defense.
We don't know much about Serini. Yeah, maybe she took the Rogue class because she's sneaky like that. Or maybe she doesn't have a dishonest bone in her body and never put a single point in Bluff, Hide, or Move Silently, instead preferring to use the class features for exploration.
So maybe a shell game never occurred to her? Or it's exactly what she's doing? Without knowing more about Serini herself, we can't really say anything with any degree of certainty.
(Though I'm inclined to agree with the above that, out of character, Rich is unlikely to give the same gimmick to two dungeons in a row.)
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2020-11-03, 10:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Maybe she's secretly a Belkar style super-murderer and went into Rogue for that sweet Sneak Attack DPT.
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That would be cool, and there was that reference to Aunt Judy way back when.
But I don't think that a Belkar back story is something Rich wanted to do, and I also don't think that someone depicted as kind and caring (Serini) would leave their newborn and wander off forever, unless she gave him up for adoption at birth or something? And then she changed her name?
Not seeing it all fit together like that.Last edited by KorvinStarmast; 2020-11-03 at 10:30 AM.
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2020-11-03, 11:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-11-03, 11:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1218 - The Discussion Thread
How about: The floor plans of all of the dungeons spell out an encrypted message, and you have to get the entire message to successfully decrypt it? That would be a nice use of both the brute-force and rogue skill sets. It would require that there be wards set up to prevent someone from bypassing the monsters, zipping in and out without fighting.
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2020-11-03, 11:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-11-03, 11:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Maybe Oona was right all along and and monster hollow isn’t Kraagors tomb.
Maybe Monster hollow is just a petting a zoo Serini created in her spare time because she likes animals.
Maybe Kraagors tomb is somewhere else.Last edited by Dion; 2020-11-03 at 11:51 AM.
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2020-11-03, 12:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1218 - The Discussion Thread
Doesn't explain why she wrote down the coordinates in her diary under the heading Five Gates That Keep The Gods From Blowing Up The World. Also doesn't explain why the paladins know this is the location of the Fifth Gate, as passed down to them by Soon, the guy who was there.
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2020-11-03, 12:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1218 - The Discussion Thread
I’m not saying it’s not nearby.
But in the crayon drawing, the gate is outside.
I mean, I know the crayon drawings aren’t exact representations. But it has never made sense to my why they’re trying to find a gate that’s supposed to be above ground in an underground location called monster hollow?
My guess is that before the end of the book Oona says “I told you this wasn’t Kraagor’s tomb. You didn’t listen.”
Heck, for all I know maybe Oona’s job as a beast master is to take the biggest meanest monsters from monster hollow and set them in front of the tomb to guard it. And she hasn’t told Redcloak and Xykon because they never bothered to ask.Last edited by Dion; 2020-11-03 at 12:55 PM.
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Re: OOTS #1218 - The Discussion Thread
Girard's Gate was also outside. And so was Dorukan's. Yet when the Order got to them, both were very much underground. The Scribblers did significant landscaîng, as is obvious by the extradimensional stone.
What she said was that she doesn't know Kraagor, though.Forum Wisdom
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For another data point, Blood Runs in the Family has the most panels of any book, at 3,579. Utterly Dwarfed is second with 3,252. So far, we have 373 panels in Book 7, so a little over 10% of Blood Runs in the Family. Those counts for the completed books do include the bonus content, chapter title pages, “previously on” recaps, etc., so there is a little bit of fudging of the numbers. Who knows what this actually means, though?
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It was one of the patron-choice Kickstarter stories, and I'm assuming it will get a printed version at some point.
For the gate, one thing to consider is that Serini's not set the gate's defences up as a rogue, she's set them up as she thought Kraagor would have done them, so somewhere between a rogue and a barbarian.
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2020-11-03, 03:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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I have Uncivil Servant, if that is what you are referring to. It does not offer him a back story, but it does illustrate his bloody handed nature before he arrived at OoTPCs
and before his general "stab it as a default" in DCF.Spoiler: Otootpcs spoiler?in a jail cell
For the gate, one thing to consider is that Serini's not set the gate's defences up as a rogue, she's set them up as she thought Kraagor would have done them, so somewhere between a rogue and a barbarian.Last edited by KorvinStarmast; 2020-11-03 at 03:46 PM.
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