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2021-01-27, 03:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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For one so normally detail-oriented I'm a little surprised. Relatively speaking the sun only appears to rise. Though "The viewing arc we define as "sky" continues to rotate on a daily basis repeatedly revealing and obscuring the sun" doesn't have quite the same ring to it.
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2021-01-27, 03:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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As per special relativity, there is no privileged frame of reference, and in a frame of reference tied to the Earth's rotation, the sun does rise on a semi-regular basis.
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2021-01-27, 03:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-01-27, 03:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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"The universe was divided into two parts, separated by a five centimetre shell of monomolecular steel. On the inner side was the interior of the luxury yacht One Jump Ahead, superbly outfitted for one passenger [...]
On the other side was the rest of the universe, composed almost entirely of nothing with a trace of hydrogen."
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2021-01-27, 04:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-01-27, 04:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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This might be of interest.
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You know, it just dawned on me that I have spent most of today alone with the friend who intoduced me to Discworld way back when and thz subject never even came up.Last edited by Fyraltari; 2021-01-27 at 04:22 PM.
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2021-01-27, 04:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-01-27, 10:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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I know the theory that others of MiTD's kind will show up in Serini's dungeon is an old one. But something about the latest strip makes it feel more likely to me. Roy says that the trick portal is meant to keep something in, and that's a setup for a dramatic reveal if I've ever heard one. Would make sense for the reveal to do double duty, and it would be interesting if O'Chul was captured to be fed to a creature of MiTD's type, only for their friendship to save him.
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2021-01-28, 07:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-01-28, 08:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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We know it is present behind at least another door. Given that they opened two doors at random and both had traps, the parsimonious assumption is that it is behind every door, unless shown otherwise. There might be one or two exceptions, special doors without traps, but I find it unlikely given the evidence so far.
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2021-01-28, 08:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-01-30, 12:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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So, another bit of info that someone perhaps has pointed out. But perhaps not.
At one point, Belkar was tracking MITD. He was confused about the tracks. Granted, he sucks at tracking but he knew that what he was looking at were "weird". He was good enough to know it wasn't Roy, but had no idea what made them. So...he leaves tracks in 474.
Fast forward years into the future, and in 1039 he does not appear to leave any tracks in the snow - at least, no WEIRD tracks in the snow.
That would suggest to me that either he is flying/levitating or is using the psionic disciple of Body Equilibrium. It basically makes it so that you don't break the surface of things that can't normally bear your weight - they suggest water, but also things like lava. Snow would probably also qualify. Anyway, I am sure someone mentioned it before but in case not I thought I would bring it up.
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2021-01-30, 01:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-01-30, 03:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-01-30, 05:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Have we discussed the possibility of the umbrella being necessary before?
Imagine if the Monster were a Prismasaurus, for instance. Being in darkness would stop the Monster emanating Prismatic rays. Okay, that's an extreme example. But then there was the circus scene where there were extreme reactions to seeing the Monster.
We know that the Monster Hunters, Xykon, Redcloak and Oona all know what the Monster is, but they are all high level, whereas the people in the circus are most likely very low level. Likewise - importantly - so are the bulk of the goblins in Gobbotopia. And Redcloak couldn't have the Monster adversely affecting them, could he? So what if the Monster had an aura that people of high level were likely to resist? Or to which to become resilient?
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2021-01-30, 06:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Clearly I am not the expert here as evidenced by recent posts, but MitD got the umbrella in #147
If it were stopping something, it would have to make sense for the earlier issues where he did not have it.
That said, there used to be a lot of effects (particularly in 1st ed.) that would only affect people below a certain level. For example, dragons had a fear/paralyze aura that only affected creatures of 1HD or less, and as they aged it got more powerful but was never able to affect anyone with more than 6HD.
But, it is almost certainly not a normal dragon since pretty much everyone will know what they look like.
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2021-01-31, 05:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Okay, if we assume that the umbrella is actually necessary, does that help us pin down the Monster? It would clearly negate the Prismasaurus' light-based defences, for instance. (Note that while a Phrenic Prismasaurus would be a good fit, the Monster cannot actually be a Prismasaurus because they are immune to mind-affecting attacks.) Contrariwise it would not negate the Uvuudaum's confusion aura, since that does not depend upon sight.
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2021-02-01, 08:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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This is one of those things where my perspective is basically-- if you find a species for which the umbrella would be necessary, and it generally fits the other requirements for MITD, then yes, that would be a point in its favor. I don't know that that applies to any of the FBS monsters, or that there's some FBS monster we haven't discovered where the umbrella is a point in its favor, though. Until then, I'm content to assume what we saw is what we get-- namely, Xykon keeping the MITD in the dark because he doesn't want to reveal him until the crucial moment (and, of course, from the Doylist perspective, that's the exact reason Rich keeps him in the dark, too).
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2021-02-02, 12:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-02-26, 05:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Well, for me there is a huge chance that the Monster In The Darkness is the Snarl's offspring. Some years ago I would say he's the Tarrasque, but since he teleported O-Chul away I changed my mind.
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2021-02-26, 06:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-02-26, 08:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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I think the monster in the dark is us, the readers of the comic.