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2018-05-24, 01:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The LA-assignment Thread IV: Live Free or Hit Die Hard
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2018-05-25, 05:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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2018-05-25, 06:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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- In the Playground, duh.
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2018-05-25, 09:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The LA-assignment Thread IV: Live Free or Hit Die Hard
Cool elan Illithid Slayer by linkele.
Editor/co-writer of Magicae Est Potestas, a crossover between Artemis Fowl and Undertale. Ao3 FanFiction.net DeviantArt
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2018-05-25, 09:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The LA-assignment Thread IV: Live Free or Hit Die Hard
Necromancers specialize in making armies of creatures who can be driven off with one call to the local chapel. I think they tend to prefer style over substance.
The only template I'm aware of that grants constructs Constitution (incarnate construct) removes special abilities. Sadly.
Yeah, that does kinda turn incarnate golems into ogres with a funky backstory.
No, we're talking about the Savage Species one.
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2018-05-25, 02:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The LA-assignment Thread IV: Live Free or Hit Die Hard
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2018-05-25, 03:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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2018-05-25, 03:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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2018-05-25, 04:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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2018-05-26, 01:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The LA-assignment Thread IV: Live Free or Hit Die Hard
Creator of the LA-assignment thread.
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2018-05-26, 03:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The LA-assignment Thread IV: Live Free or Hit Die Hard
Princess Celestia's Homebrew Corner
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2018-05-26, 07:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The LA-assignment Thread IV: Live Free or Hit Die Hard
Changeling
My prayers for something without RHD have been answered!
Obviously, nobody is going to claim changelings deserve +1 LA, or are too weak for +0, so I won't go into detail about their abilities and traits. They got a decent chassis, a unique and versatile ability, the option to sneak their way into race-exclusive material, and one of the best prestige classes in the game is semi-exclusive to them, so there's plenty of reasons to play a changeling even when the more powerful +0 LA races are on the table.
I'll also use this post to remind people that MM3 isn't a setting-specific book, and changelings therefore aren't either. Use that knowledge wisely.
+0 LA, as stated before.Creator of the LA-assignment thread.
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2018-05-26, 07:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The LA-assignment Thread IV: Live Free or Hit Die Hard
I want you to PEACH me as hard as you can.
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2018-05-26, 08:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The LA-assignment Thread IV: Live Free or Hit Die Hard
Changeling: no RHD, typical speed and reach for size, +2 saves to a pair of minor statuses, Speak Language is always a class skill, at-will Disguise self as (Su), and another +6 to skills. Not Human/Strongheart Halfing/Whisper Gnome, but plenty respectable.
Verdict: fine at LA +0.
Takes a look ahead
Oh...goody.Last edited by ViperMagnum357; 2018-05-26 at 08:15 AM.
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2018-05-26, 11:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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2018-05-26, 11:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The LA-assignment Thread IV: Live Free or Hit Die Hard
I want you to PEACH me as hard as you can.
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2018-05-26, 10:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The LA-assignment Thread IV: Live Free or Hit Die Hard
Changelings have a special ability which makes them very powerful (though, with proper DM prep, not completely game-breaking) in the right circumstances, and which can be fun to use at other times. Not strong enough to deserve +1, but that just makes them all the more fun to use.
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2018-05-27, 12:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The LA-assignment Thread IV: Live Free or Hit Die Hard
Concur with +0 for Changelings.
Also, I'm pretty sure most DMs aren't even aware of, and would ditch if they were, the line restricting Able Learner and Chameleon to Eberron. There's no real reason for such a restriction (that I know of) in the first place.
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2018-05-30, 06:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The LA-assignment Thread IV: Live Free or Hit Die Hard
Charnel Hound
Huge size, 38 strength and Power Attack as a bonus feat all are pretty nifty, the hound's bite and claws deal respectable damage, DR 10/silver and magic is hard to overcome, Unholy Toughness is nice on something with 18 charisma, and Body Integration allows the hound to recover HP when it kills stuff. Rend and Frightful presence are hardly overpowered, but a slight net positive.
However, the same hound also has several severe flaws. It lacks thumbs, takes massive penalties to all important rolls in daylight, and is naturally mindless. Bodily Integration, while at first glance a reasonable source of in-combat healing, only works on humanoids, who aren't known for having lots of HD. Oh, and this abomination also has 21 undead RHD to deal with.
To emphasize how bad the last bit is: it means the charnel hound has +10 base attack bonus at ECL 21. Even if it managed to wield a weapon somehow, it'd get only two strikes with it per round. Its fortitude save is a measly +7 at a level where save DCs regularly reach in the high twenties.
It should be clear that the charnel hound simply isn't competitive at epic levels, and therefore deserves -0 LA.Creator of the LA-assignment thread.
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2018-05-30, 08:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The LA-assignment Thread IV: Live Free or Hit Die Hard
In the Beginning Was the Word, and the Word Was Suck: A Guide to Truenamers
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2018-05-30, 10:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The LA-assignment Thread IV: Live Free or Hit Die Hard
LA -0. Not really worth fixing, honestly-too many inherent problems even if you reduced the RHD.
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2018-05-30, 10:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The LA-assignment Thread IV: Live Free or Hit Die Hard
I suppose one could argue that the Charnel Hound actually has plenty of thumbs... it's just that no reasonable DM would ever let you use them...
But yeah, 21 HD? Pass.
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2018-05-30, 04:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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2018-05-30, 06:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The LA-assignment Thread IV: Live Free or Hit Die Hard
Concur. -0.
No point trying to make it playable.
Could maybe use it as a mount or other minion, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be all that hard to find something better.
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2018-05-30, 07:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The LA-assignment Thread IV: Live Free or Hit Die Hard
Might actually be playable if you dumped enough of the RHD to bring them roughly inline with the saves/BAB. And found a way to give it an Int score. Even then, your play options are kind of limited with no hands, light sensitivity, and the usual stigmas attached to being a freakish undead monstrosity.
At least the charnel hound has a few good heads on its shoulders.Last edited by Random Sanity; 2018-05-30 at 07:48 PM.
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2018-05-30, 07:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The LA-assignment Thread IV: Live Free or Hit Die Hard
I want you to PEACH me as hard as you can.
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2018-05-31, 02:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The LA-assignment Thread IV: Live Free or Hit Die Hard
Chelicera
The chelicera (named after those mouth-limbs spiders have), is a medium-sized, 12 RHD vermin, which is just really disappointing overall.
Apart from the details given above (which are bad enough already), chelicera have a mere 14 strength, lack limbs, are naturally mindless, and have the bare minimum of special abilities.
Even at its supposed speciality (grappling) the chelicera performs poorly. Sure, it grapples with its dexterity modifier, and it's got a +4 racial bonus to boot, but ultimately even something like an ogre monk is a better grappler than this thing. Blood Drain is neat, but 1d4 constitution drain matters little on something unlikely to survive the round.
Mimicry is a flavorful ability and definitely unexpected on a mindless spider, but not significantly more powerful than a Wand of Ghost Sound.
Final verdict: -0 LA. What a surprise.Last edited by Inevitability; 2018-06-01 at 01:15 AM.
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2018-05-31, 02:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The LA-assignment Thread IV: Live Free or Hit Die Hard
Point of order: the Chelicera deals Constitution Drain, not damage, making it more dangerous than at first blush. Also, did they ever FAQ the disease rider on the bite attack? There is mention in the description of the critter preferring nasty areas with poor sanitation, but not crunch on any diseases carried.
Overall, a quick LA -0. Good skill bonuses and a natural climb speed do little to shore up that much Vermin RHD. Net +18 abilities plus mindless do not look that great at ECL 12 minimum. A grapple bonus does little to help a medium sized creature without exceptional reach. Weak natural attack routine and no hands or manipulators = bleh. On the upshot, complete, natural immunity to Sonic is rare and useful, at-will Con drain is not to be underestimated, and hey, free Weapon Finesse. Not enough to salvage it, but at least kinda weird.
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2018-05-31, 03:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The LA-assignment Thread IV: Live Free or Hit Die Hard
Yeaaaah, I don't see anything that would make me want to play this over any half-competent 12th level character. -0. Hard pass.
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2018-05-31, 04:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The LA-assignment Thread IV: Live Free or Hit Die Hard
Yeah, -0, no contest, and nothing interesting enough to make it worth trying to figure out a path to less suckage.
Very much something to throw at players, not to play.
Not even good for minionmancy fodder.