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2017-03-17, 09:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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And The Gold Medal Goes To... (Movement speed optimization question)
Hey playground, I've been thinking about an odd thought experiment. What is the highest achievable one round movement speed in 5e, disregarding teleportation effects like dimension door and teleport? Minor teleportation effects like the weaker Nomad discipline powers are fine, but the one mile teleport isn't what I have in mind.
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2017-03-17, 03:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: And The Gold Medal Goes To... (Movement speed optimization question)
Build:
Tabaxi Monk 13/Elk Barbarian 5/Fighter 2
Mobile feat
Base Speed: 30 ft.
Monk Unarmored Movement: +20 ft.
Barbarian Fast Movement: +10 ft.
Elk Totem: +15 ft.
Mobile: +10 ft.
Feline Agility: *2 speed
Dash*3 (action, Step of the Wind, Action Surge): +3*speed
Total: 680 ft.
You could go faster if you have people to help you out.
Allies:
Dream Druid 20
Transmutation Wizard 6
Base Speed: 30 ft.
Monk Unarmored Movement: +20 ft.
Barbarian Fast Movement: +10 ft.
Elk Totem: +15 ft.
Mobile: +10 ft.
Balm of the Summer Court (10 dice spent): +50 ft.
Transmuter's Stone: +10 ft.
Longstrider: +10 ft.
Haste: *2 speed
Feline Agility: *2 speed
Dash*4 (action, Haste action, Step of the Wind, Action Surge): +4*speed
Total: 3100 ft.
If you bring magic items/boons into the mix:
Base Speed: 30 ft.
Monk Unarmored Movement: +20 ft.
Barbarian Fast Movement: +10 ft.
Elk Totem: +15 ft.
Mobile: +10 ft.
Boon of Speed: +30 ft.
Balm of the Summer Court (10 dice spent): +50 ft.
Transmuter's Stone: +10 ft.
Longstrider: +10 ft.
Haste: *2 speed
Feline Agility: *2 speed
Boots of Speed: *2 speed
Dash*4 (action, Haste action, Step of the Wind, Action Surge): +4*speed
Total: 7400 ft.
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2017-03-18, 10:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: And The Gold Medal Goes To... (Movement speed optimization question)
There is more. I have a build in pc with magic itens doing 11,200ft. With new mystic this will increase
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2017-03-18, 06:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-03-18, 07:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: And The Gold Medal Goes To... (Movement speed optimization question)
Ah...I was doing this recently! Mach 4.12
Psion (Immortal, v3) 9/Barbarian (Elk) 5/Monk 2/Fighter 2/Wizard (Bladesinger) 2 Tabaxi Urchin
Allies: A Druid 17 & Wizard (Transmuter) 6/Psion (Avatar) 1
Base Speed: 345'
Items: Boots of Speed & Potion of Speed
Multipliers: 2*2*2*2 (Boots, Haste, Urchin, Tabaxi) = 16
What Happens:
BA: Activate Celerity
Use Movement
A: Dash
AS: Dash
Haste: Dash
Reaction: Move via Crown of Rage from Ally 2
Calcs: 345*16*5 = 27,600; 27,600/6/1116.5 (Speed of Sound) = ~4.12Extended Signature
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(Maybe 6.5 (X-15), or even 12.7 (1.33 saturn V's)! It's still debatable)
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2017-03-18, 08:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: And The Gold Medal Goes To... (Movement speed optimization question)
how you get the base speed of 345?
what I get:
lets upgrade:
tabaxi, urchin
Moon druid 2 = horse 60ft
Fighter 2 = action surge
barbarian elk 5 = +25ft
monk 2 = +10ft.
bladesinger 2 = +10ft.
mystic 6 = +10ft. (focus celerity)
Artificer 1 = +20ft
Mobile +10
longstride +10
boon of speed +30
major property artifact +10,
transmuter stone +10 (stolen from wizard).
boots of speed for horse = x2
potion of speed = haste
allies: druid circle of dreams lv 20, balm of the summer court for +100"
mystic with focus in Mantle of Fury +5
base 310'*16= 4960
movement + dash + action surge dash + haste dash + bonus action (monk) dash + reaction (Mindless Charge) = 29760
Mighty Leap (5pp) +100ft
Wind Step (5pp) +100ft fly movement
29960
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2017-03-18, 08:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: And The Gold Medal Goes To... (Movement speed optimization question)
1. Click the link
2. Where is mindless charge from?
3. Can't you only use one focus at a time? (I skimmed over the rules a bit)Extended Signature
Co-Creator of the Fastest Character in 5e at Mach 3.175 (SR-71)!
(Maybe 6.5 (X-15), or even 12.7 (1.33 saturn V's)! It's still debatable)
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2017-03-18, 08:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: And The Gold Medal Goes To... (Movement speed optimization question)
Since it hasnt been mentioned yet in this thread, it's possible to break the speed of light. You need to be a Vengeance Paladin with the Tunnel Fighter fighting style from the Underdark UA (or Polymorphed into a Marilith). Then you need something to provoke a LOT of opportunity attacks, because with Vengeance Paladin each OA lets you move. The preferred method for doing so in the original thread was something like 150 million pigeons, properly arranged along your intended path, all taking the Ready action to move (and thus provoke an OA) once you threaten them.
See here: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...e-fastest-mileLast edited by Xetheral; 2017-03-18 at 08:41 PM.
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2017-03-18, 08:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: And The Gold Medal Goes To... (Movement speed optimization question)
Mindless charge from your ally
One of focus is from your ally, celerity is self.
How can you be a quickling and keep ypur old features? Shapechange is self and true polymorph remove your old features.
OoV feature say "when you use your reaction", tunnel fighter don't use reaction, so this isn't perfectly correct, but with some interpretation...Last edited by joaber; 2017-03-18 at 08:51 PM.
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2017-03-18, 09:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: And The Gold Medal Goes To... (Movement speed optimization question)
1. Scroll of Shapechange
2. I was referring to Mighty Leap and Wind Step
3. My base speed is now 450 adding in the Dream Duid, dropping Monk levels 1 Artificer, and my ally using Mantle of Fury instead. Brings me up to Mach 5.5Last edited by Pichu; 2017-03-19 at 11:14 AM.
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2017-03-19, 11:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: And The Gold Medal Goes To... (Movement speed optimization question)
According to my calculations (definitely not KSP), you would be burned up at those speeds. Which is why you have a psionic friend give you immunity to fire damage.
Edit: Sorry for double post!Last edited by Pichu; 2017-03-19 at 11:16 AM.
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2017-03-19, 01:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-03-19, 06:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: And The Gold Medal Goes To... (Movement speed optimization question)
1. Mighty Leap and Wind Step are from different subclassses
2. Okay, I'll add a level of druid to become a Psion 9/Barbarian 5/Fighter 2/Wizard 2/Artificer 1/Druid 1
3. The Barbarian 'Rage' description says "If you are able to cast spells, you can't cast them or concentrate on them while raging." It only specifies spells. (I'm probably just dumb/blind, so sorry!)Extended Signature
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(Maybe 6.5 (X-15), or even 12.7 (1.33 saturn V's)! It's still debatable)
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2017-03-19, 06:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-03-19, 08:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: And The Gold Medal Goes To... (Movement speed optimization question)
Extended Signature
Co-Creator of the Fastest Character in 5e at Mach 3.175 (SR-71)!
(Maybe 6.5 (X-15), or even 12.7 (1.33 saturn V's)! It's still debatable)
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2017-03-19, 08:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: And The Gold Medal Goes To... (Movement speed optimization question)
Last edited by joaber; 2017-03-19 at 08:19 PM.
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2017-03-20, 10:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: And The Gold Medal Goes To... (Movement speed optimization question)
Well factoring this all in, I can get my base speed up to 455 (Quickling, Celerity (7pp), 2 Artifacts w/ 2 Majors each, Fast Movement, Artificer Potion, Longstrider, a Dream Druid 20 ally, Transmuters' Stone, An Ally with Crown of Fury, An Ally with Mantle of Command, Mobile feat, Boon of Speed, and Bladesinging) As a Mystic 9/Barbarian 5/Fighter 2/Wizard (Bladesinger) 2/Artificer (Alchemist) 1/Druid 1 (to cast Shapechange via Scroll). 455* 16 (Tabaxi, Haste, Boots of Speed, Urchin)=7280. 7280*5.5 (Movement, Action: Dash, Action Surge: Dash, Haste: Dash, Reaction: Crown of Fury, Mantle of Command)=40040. 40040+280 (Mighty Leap (7pp) and Wind Step (7pp))=40320. 40320/6699 (1116.5*6)= ~Mach 6.01!
Last edited by Pichu; 2017-03-20 at 10:36 AM.
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Co-Creator of the Fastest Character in 5e at Mach 3.175 (SR-71)!
(Maybe 6.5 (X-15), or even 12.7 (1.33 saturn V's)! It's still debatable)
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2017-03-20, 12:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: And The Gold Medal Goes To... (Movement speed optimization question)
i got something a little different:
tabaxi, urchin
druid 1 = scroll of shapechange = quickling 120ft
Fighter 2 = action surge
Barbarian 5 = +10ft
monk 2 = +10ft.
bladesinger 2 = +10ft.
mystic 3 = +10ft. (focus celerity)
artificer 5 = +20ft (attunement to 4 itens)
Mobile +10
longstride +10
boon of speed +30
4x artifacts with 2x major property artifact each = +80ft
transmuter stone +10 (stolen from wizard).
boots of speed for horse = x2
potion of speed = haste
allies: druid circle of dreams lv 20, balm of the summer court for +100"
mystic with focus in Mantle of Fury +5
another mystic focus in mantle of command
base 425'*16= 6800
movement + dash + action surge dash + haste dash + bonus action (monk) dash + reaction (Mindless Charge) + 1/2 mantle of coomand = 44200
Mighty Leap (2pp) +60ft (x2 monk unarmored movement) = 120ft
Wind Step (2pp) +60ft fly movement
44380
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2017-03-20, 02:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: And The Gold Medal Goes To... (Movement speed optimization question)
This is fun :3
Also, Boots of Speed require Attunement, making you have a base speed of 405'. Sorry :/
Also, Boon of Speed allows you to dash as a BA.
Artificer (Alchemist) 5/Barbarian 5/Ranger (Underdark Scout) 3/Fighter 2/Wizard (Bladesinger) 2/Druid 1/Mystic 1
Allies: Dream Druid 20, Wizard (Transmuter) 6, Mystic buddies for Mantle of Fury and Mantle of Command
120 (Quickling) + 100 (Balm of the Summer Court [Druid Ally]) + 5 (Focus: Mantle of Fury [Mystic Ally]) + 30 (Boon of Speed) + 10 (Mobile) + 10 (Longstrider [Wizard Ally]) + 60 (3xArtifacts via Superior Attunement) +10 (Bladesinger) + 20 (Alchemist Potion) + 10 (Transmuter's Stone) + 10 (Unarmored Movement) + 10 () + 10 (Rogue Ally) + 10 (Fast Movement) + 10 (Focus Celerity) = 425'
Tabaxi, Urchin, Haste, Boots of Speed = *16
Wind Step & Mighty Leap for +80
(425*16*6.5+80)/6699 = Mach 6.61 / 44,280 ft of movementExtended Signature
Co-Creator of the Fastest Character in 5e at Mach 3.175 (SR-71)!
(Maybe 6.5 (X-15), or even 12.7 (1.33 saturn V's)! It's still debatable)
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2017-03-20, 06:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: And The Gold Medal Goes To... (Movement speed optimization question)
forgot about boots of speed
ranger underdark scout and Ambush Master doesn't work with urchin, because one is only in combat, other can't be used in combat. :(
I think i prefer monk 2, his bonus action dash double the jump of Mighty Leap, not a great add, but is something.
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2017-03-20, 06:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: And The Gold Medal Goes To... (Movement speed optimization question)
Ah. Sad how this thread is just us, huh?
I'll drop Ranger 3 & Ambush Master [via Ally] for 2 levels in monk, giving me a net of -10. Also, I can jump (no pun intended) up to Mystic 3. Revising the calcs bring me up to: (415*104+180)/6699 or Mach 6.47 / 43240
Edit: forgot to double Mighty LeapLast edited by Pichu; 2017-03-20 at 06:34 PM.
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Co-Creator of the Fastest Character in 5e at Mach 3.175 (SR-71)!
(Maybe 6.5 (X-15), or even 12.7 (1.33 saturn V's)! It's still debatable)
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2017-03-20, 06:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: And The Gold Medal Goes To... (Movement speed optimization question)
How about if the contest is limited to the PHB and only 1 of the 3 books between Elemental Evil, Sword Coast, and Volo's? No other sources allowed like UA
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2017-03-21, 09:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: And The Gold Medal Goes To... (Movement speed optimization question)
Last edited by Pichu; 2017-03-21 at 10:05 AM.
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Co-Creator of the Fastest Character in 5e at Mach 3.175 (SR-71)!
(Maybe 6.5 (X-15), or even 12.7 (1.33 saturn V's)! It's still debatable)
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2017-03-21, 03:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: And The Gold Medal Goes To... (Movement speed optimization question)
Because some of us treat this as a hobby in between wife, kids, and work. Free time is at a premium. I run a books only game so my group is all on a even playing ground, and can contribute to the group without sitting there watching 1 person be OP as the 9 hells. Where's the fun in that?
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2017-03-21, 03:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: And The Gold Medal Goes To... (Movement speed optimization question)
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Co-Creator of the Fastest Character in 5e at Mach 3.175 (SR-71)!
(Maybe 6.5 (X-15), or even 12.7 (1.33 saturn V's)! It's still debatable)
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2017-03-21, 03:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-03-21, 04:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: And The Gold Medal Goes To... (Movement speed optimization question)
Well, honestly, both a Core Only and a UA Enhanced half of the experiment could be interesting, I don't see why we couldn't theorycraft on both tracks.
Also this speed is ridiculous and I love it.
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2017-03-21, 04:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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*Small Bow* Thank you :3
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2017-03-21, 05:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Extended Signature
Co-Creator of the Fastest Character in 5e at Mach 3.175 (SR-71)!
(Maybe 6.5 (X-15), or even 12.7 (1.33 saturn V's)! It's still debatable)