OOTS #1172 - The Discussion Thread

[The Giant]

New comic is up.

Also, the new OOTS book, Book 6: Utterly Dwarfed, just went on pre-sale. More details in my signature.

[AJ the Ronin]

I just fail my moral check and I don't know what's gonna happen.

[Cicciograna]

Oh no! I'm pretty sure that Team Thundershield has a trick up their sleeve, but this is dire.

[Emanick]

Well. That’s concerning.

[hroþila]

Bwahahaha, "oh wait, I can move".

Interestingly, this strip suggests that if Hel hadn't tried to tamper with the vote, she might well have got the result she wanted. I'm sure the irony won't escape Loki.

[Wlerin]

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1) It's a returning hammer.

2) If he hit it "just like yer Pa did", then the ceiling is about to collapse on them.

[Stabbey]

Yikes! Well, looks like book 6 is also gonna be the LAST book too!

I (and others) had thought of the "break the ceiling to let in the sunlight", but yeah, I figured that would be enough to stone whoever did it.

[The MunchKING]

Well I expected that about the Destruction of Public Property. Less so the vampire remembering he had three rounds to move OUT of the sunlight.

He really DOES have a Wisdom score worthy of casting Clerical spells.

[drazen]

I just fail my moral check and I don't know what's gonna happen.

Only possibilities I see:

One, ceiling collapses via returning hammer.

Two, Durkon's entire clan rushes in and every one of them destroys the ceiling with their combined efforts.

Three, Dvalin can see in through the crack in the ceiling (loophole) and invalidates the vote.

Four, Rich wants the ultimate downer ending and the world is destroyed.

What other possibility even exists?

[comicwatcher]

I can't help thinking that this might have been part of the plan, since the hammer is expected to return. Maybe the entire ceiling will be demolished at that point.

[Grey_Wolf_c]

Interestingly, this strip suggests that if Hel hadn't tried to tamper with the vote, she might well have got the result she wanted. I'm sure the irony won't escape Loki.

Yep. Ask these dwarves if they'd sacrifice for the greater good, and a non-insignificant portion of them will vote "of course" based on their cultural inertia. Even politicians.

Enough of them to be a majority? Impossible to say, of course. And it is not hard to imagine that Hel, too self-centered to really understanding dwarves, might have gone for what seem to be a surer bet.

But it does highlight that the usual votes are so insignificant that the domination didn't really concern them before now. It seems it would usually not matter that half the council was under vampire domination, if all they were doing was voting on flower arrangements for some festival or the like.

Grey Wolf

[Alias]

Well, on the upside being turned to stone drastically increases your changes of surviving a ceiling collapse.

[Myta]

There is no way that Durkon and his Ma are stupid enough to assume single hole in the ceiling would be enough to kill the vampires.
They both look like they know exactly what they are doing.

I am going for option a):
The returning hammer will collapse the ceiling, killing all vampires.

edit:
also "you know where tha hit it" clearly implies that he wants to achieve more then just a simple hole.

[Quebbster]

Looks like it's up to Sigdi to save the day.

[Teln]

That balding dwarf in the purple shirt in panel one--his hair is a bird. Just wanted to point that out.

[HandofShadows]

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1) It's a returning hammer.

2) If he hit it "just like yer Pa did", then the ceiling is about to collapse on them.

That is a very good idea. And it would be great.

[Ninja]

Well, on the upside being turned to stone drastically increases your changes of surviving a ceiling collapse.

Anyone who wants to survive the inevitable ceiling collapse should start breaking some laws.

[Relogos]

My bet is on returning hammer + collapsible ceiling OR Dispel magic from outside of the chamber as we have a nice sky window for it now. The barier prevents casting from inside of the barier if i understand the wording right.

[Garwain]

also "you know where tha hit it" clearly implies that he wants to achieve more then just a simple hole.

"Just like yer Pa did" also points in that direction. He was a sapper who found a weak spot to cause a collapse.

[Kantaki]

Well, that could've gone better...

[Zhorn]

Something big is gonna happen... Well... bigger, given the situation.
I'm excited

[hroþila]

My bet is on returning hammer + collapsible ceiling OR Dispel magic from outside of the chamber as we have a nice sky window for it now. The barier prevents casting from inside of the barier if i understand the wording right.

Casting from the outside or some other form of external intervention would be more likely, IMO. Even if it's for the MUCH Greater Good, I can't see Durkon purposefully killing everyone in that chamber.

[danielxcutter]

Yeah, I'm going with "the Elders probably aren't that stupid, but they never expected for their votes to matter for something remotely this important" too.

And hey, even if they thought it was hypothetical at first, some dwarves would rather sacrifice their own eternal rewards if the other option was oblivion for all - that's kinda admirable, the thought itself if not it's actual repercussions in this specific case.

...I sure hope whatever Durkon has in mind, it doesn't end up killing everyone in the room. I guess that most of them are wealthy enough for their families raise them, though.

[Malphegor]

I feel bad for Durkon, he's spent so much of the past few stories immobilsed, hahaha.

On the plus side, petrification is probably easy to fix at their levels. Stone salves, turn stone to flesh, remove curse.

[Rogar Demonblud]

Yep. Ask these dwarves if they'd sacrifice for the greater good, and a non-insignificant portion of them will vote "of course" based on their cultural inertia. Even politicians.

Grey Wolf

And yet when I suggested this very development some strips ago people screamed at me for being unrealistic. Seriously, folks, dwarves /= humans.

Also, I am only accepting apologies in the form of apfelkuchen.

[Myta]

"Just like yer Pa did" also points in that direction. He was a sapper who found a weak spot to cause a collapse.

wow, I completely forgot about that part of the story. This is by far the clearest pointer to a collapse.

[Svata]

Dammit, we'd just gotten that cleric repaired!

[knag]

Does V know Stone to Flesh?

[Crusher]

Durkon makes a fine statue.

[Rogar Demonblud]

I feel bad for Durkon, he's spent so much of the past few stories immobilised, hahaha.

On the plus side, petrification is probably easy to fix at their levels. Stone salves, turn stone to flesh, remove curse.

Or just finish the vote.