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2019-11-08, 08:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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On Hylgia Plane Shifting out
Hylgia mentioned a couple times that she's ready to Plane Shift away at the first sign of danger, therefore avoiding death if the gods decide to unmake the universe.
However, this creates some complications.
If this is possible, since this is not the first time the gods create a dnd-like world (loki complains about this one being *another* fantasy tropes world), it should mean that every new "cycle" some high level characters manage to survive destruction, and presumably enter the next one.
We saw how many words there are: Where are all these high level characters that could heavily swing the plot in either direction?Originally Posted by actual quote from this forum
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2019-11-08, 08:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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5 gold says that Inevitables hunt down stragglers that escaped. Because why not?
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2019-11-08, 08:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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My question is how much "rumbling" will she actually get, versus "all the threads of reality just got pulled, all of you sitting in hard vacuum now"?
Will she have enough advanced warning TO Plane Shift out of there?"Besides, you know the saying: Kill one, and you are a murderer. Kill millions, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Fishman
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2019-11-08, 08:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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My personal headcanon is that once the world is unmade, all creatures/individuals quickly start to lose their physical forms as the quiddities that composed them are likewise becoming "unraveled" or "separated." Thor mentions mortals are made with quiddities from each color...presumably during the "unraveling" of the Snarl's prison, the combined colors that make up mortals are also separated and returned to their respective pantheons.
It's probably not a perfect theory (I haven't tried too hard to poke holes in it), but to me it explains why plane-shifted mortals don't survive from world to world. Which is a shame, because I'd really love a Laser-Snail cameo!
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2019-11-08, 09:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Dead, they're all dead because it takes quite a while to wait for the Snarl to calm down, and even the people who could have made it through that are all dead after 2000+ years on this world.
Oh and even if they aren't they're busy not knowing what's going on, or being selfish and hiding, or being evil lazy bastards and hiding, or being forced to be stuck somewhere, or doing other important things (coincidentally that's what all but at most 15 of the high-level characters in the word are doing).Arrrgh, here be me extended sig!
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2019-11-08, 10:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-11-08, 11:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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I don't recall anything said about an interim period. Why would there be one? Wouldn't the gods make a new world ASAP to contain the Snarl?
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2019-11-08, 11:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
Number of times Roland St. Jude has sworn revenge upon me: 2
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2019-11-09, 12:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Okay, fair enough, but who says the interim period is long enough to age someone to death?
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2019-11-09, 02:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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I think it's mostly just an assumption. However, it's an assumption based on the fact that the interim period is long enough to potentially kill any gods who don't have enough energy stored up. It's probably a safe bet to figure that any period of time long enough to totally drain a god is probably longer than any humanoid's natural lifespan.
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2019-11-09, 04:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-11-09, 05:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Plane Shifting to avoid the end of the world requires knowledge of the coming end of the world. Since the Gods keep the existence of the Snarl a secret, it would really rare for anyone to be in the know except for the high priests present when the vote is cast (assuming the Snarl doesn't escape first) which would mean that only those high priests who had Plane Shift prepared would be able to escape and their resêctive patrons would probably forbid them to mess with their next creation.
And really would they want to? The new world would be so very different from theirs they'd be considered some eldritch monster by evryone on it.Forum Wisdom
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2019-11-09, 05:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re:Interim period
Planes where time goes much slower exist, right? As do immortal creaturesOriginally Posted by actual quote from this forum
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2019-11-09, 05:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Perhaps it explains why there exists planes such as the ranch dressing one? I.e. leftovers from previous worlds (who do not remember what happened since now they're outsiders and have had their memories wiped)?
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2019-11-09, 09:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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"They die of old age" is an easy way out, but what if a whole family (or multiple) planeshifts? They build their own demi-plane, have kids, marry, have more kids, have grandkids, and so on.
And planeshifting doesn't require you to know the world ends. Those families of mages might have plane-shifted away to avoid constant nagging neighbors that disturb their study. Or a million other reasons.
But yes, maybe some of the eldritch horrors are in fact remnants from previous worlds (who either don't remember it because they're just descendants) or have gone mad in the meantime. Or fully remember it, but can't make any use fo that knowledge, because the new world works on totally different principles. Or maybe once the new reality is made, they die because the new laws of reality don't support them.
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2019-11-09, 09:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by Peelee; 2019-11-09 at 09:30 AM.
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2019-11-09, 09:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Hm...You know, I wonder if this explains why Heretera, Ganonron, and Jepheton came from: No one knows them other then the fiends because they aren't FROM this world. They're from some other D&D themed world. Funnily enough, if so, that kinda proves Xykon wrong: it's possible they died to the gods destroying the world, which means they weren't "chumps without the cajones to stay in the game". No way to solve that.
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2019-11-09, 09:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by Peelee; 2019-11-09 at 09:59 AM.
Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
Number of times Roland St. Jude has sworn revenge upon me: 2
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2019-11-09, 10:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-11-09, 10:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Arrrgh, here be me extended sig!
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2019-11-09, 10:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by Schroeswald; 2019-11-09 at 10:49 AM.
Arrrgh, here be me extended sig!
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2019-11-09, 11:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
Number of times Roland St. Jude has sworn revenge upon me: 2
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2019-11-09, 11:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Blah blah, I suck at memory and whatever, I bet he could count all the books he’s read on one hand, in this comic.
He learned to read by having an intelligence of 3+ and not being a barbarian.
EDIT: Wait no, he read another book, ignore my link and just say one hand.Last edited by Schroeswald; 2019-11-09 at 11:14 AM.
Arrrgh, here be me extended sig!
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2019-11-09, 02:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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So, this is going to sound a little strange, but, assuming the world and all mortals are made up of the strands of reality provided by the multiple pantheons, would the mortals simply seize to exist? If the Gods are "collecting" the strands of reality, if they just decided to "pull" them back, wouldn't the physical bodies of all mortals vanish, with their souls then moving to the after life?
I'm just shooting in the dark over here
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Arrrgh, here be me extended sig!
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2019-11-09, 02:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Arrrgh, here be me extended sig!