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2017-03-25, 04:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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What are the current options for non-metal armor for druids?
Including any kooky items from organized play in AL.
I know of padded, leather, and hide in the bog standard mundane equipment section and dragon scale mail from the magic items in the DMG. Also wooden shields.
I seem to recall an example of a possible houserule of stone breastplate being mentioned in the DMG but not presented as part of the ruleset, too.
Edit: Not playing in AL, I just knew that there were some examples of non-metal armor from AL but couldn't remember any specifics.
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2017-03-25, 05:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are the current options for non-metal armor for druids?
As a sort of pseudo-example, there's glamoured studded leather from the DMG, which has the mechanical properties of +1 studded leather, but can look like any sort of armour you like, or like normal clothes.
I hope someone will recall some real options here, but I kinda doubt it. Druids tend to get rather short thrift when it comes to magical items.My D&D 5th ed. Druid Handbook
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2017-03-25, 05:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are the current options for non-metal armor for druids?
Ioun Stone (debately works with wild shape), cloak/ring of protection, or maybe dabble with rules like "Alien Technology" (things like Kevlar Vests). There's not a lot of item support for mundane methods; multiclassing is generally the way to go to raise your AC. If you're including multiclassing, you can use the Monk's class feature to raise your AC to 18-20 (technically Barbarian too, although you'd have to have rolled incredibly high stats) or you can poach Mage Armor/Shield/Bladesong from 1 level of Wizard (or just use a feat for these) as the most straightforward 1 level dips.
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2017-03-25, 05:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are the current options for non-metal armor for druids?
From mundane armor, Spiked Armor is medium and isn't made of metal completely, only the spikes are, if I'm not completely mistaken.
From DMG there is Dragon Scale mail (+1 Scale mail made of dragon scales, which is definitely not metal)
Any normally metal-made armor with a Minor Magical Property (DMG pg. 143) - 'Strange Material' could be anything non-metal. (Although, that's probably irrelevant for AL)Last edited by Arkhios; 2017-03-25 at 06:30 AM.
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2017-03-25, 06:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are the current options for non-metal armor for druids?
I have hombrewed animal armor. A druid or really anyone can make armor out of different animal parts.
You can use the natural AC of a creature who's CR is half your level, its not bad and we had it that it lasts twice the days of the creatures CR, so CR8 would be 16 days.
So you could use the scales of a young dragon CR8 AC18, heavy armor proficiency required if you were level 16... its something. Perhaps someone else can take this idea an run with it.
Lots of giant crabs were killed
From another thread, we also do weapons as well
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2017-03-25, 06:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are the current options for non-metal armor for druids?
Princes of the Apocalypse has stone full plate.
Demiliches. Why'd it have to be demiliches?
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2017-03-25, 08:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are the current options for non-metal armor for druids?
I don't know how AL works, but you can't get a set of leather studded with something other than metal? Bone spikes, shiny seashells, smiley stickers?
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2017-03-25, 09:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are the current options for non-metal armor for druids?
Yes, just what I was hoping for! I'll note that for my next update.
Druids can use studded leather (see quote below). Whether that's because the studs aren't made of metal, or because the studs aren't enough to consider the armour to be 'made of metal' I couldn't say.
Originally Posted by The SageLast edited by hymer; 2017-03-25 at 09:16 AM.
My D&D 5th ed. Druid Handbook
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2017-03-25, 09:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are the current options for non-metal armor for druids?
I just tell Druids "You can use any medium armor. If its made of metal, for you, its made of bone. Same with shields."
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2017-03-25, 09:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are the current options for non-metal armor for druids?
There is an AL adventure that has Halfplate of Poison Resistance made from fungus as a reward (quest for sporedrome?)
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2017-03-25, 10:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-03-25, 10:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-03-25, 10:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-03-25, 11:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are the current options for non-metal armor for druids?
I will avoid spoilers about where they drop but I understand all teh following are available in AL somewhere
Crystal breastplate +1
magical stone breatplate
Wooden scale male +1
White dragon scale +1
Red dragon scale +1
Half-plate of Poison Resistance
It's worth noting that dragon scale mail requires attunement but that you can wear it without attuning and it's still scale mail. The attunement powers ain't bad though so maybe you won't mind attuning. My land druid has the red scale which is really nice but I'm thinking of getting my hands on another set of armor that's not attunement and just wearing that when I expect to fight dragons or otherwise need fire resistance. I might want another item attuned.If you cast Dispel Magic on my Gust of Wind, does that mean you're disgusting?
In real estate, they say it's all about location, location, location. In D&D I say it's about action economy, action economy, action economy.
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2017-03-25, 11:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are the current options for non-metal armor for druids?
I've heard you the first time, but why? Wooden shields are no different stat-wise from metal shields.
Also the Druids are described as having a tradition of sacred woods for shields, but it depends on the campaign setting.
Come to think of it, can a Druid use a wooden shield as focus, if it's of the right wood?
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2017-03-25, 11:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are the current options for non-metal armor for druids?
I say 'bone' or 'scaled' just so nobody pulls a "HA HA, YOU GOT HIT WITH A FIREBALL, YOUR SHIELD SHOULD BE CINDERS!" type of move. Because some people try that garbage.
I believe a Druid could use it as a focus, similar to how a Cleric can have their holy symbol emblazoned on their shield and use that as a focus.
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2017-03-25, 12:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are the current options for non-metal armor for druids?
Spiked armor in the SCAG can be made with metal or wood spikes per the wording in the book. Also lizard folks in Volos can make shields for free from any medium sized animal. So, those could be pretty common in some campaigns.
Also a Dragon scale
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2017-03-25, 12:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-03-25, 01:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are the current options for non-metal armor for druids?
There's a section on Alien Technology? Nifty.
Well, I'm not playing in AL, just listing it as a source that I knew had some oddball and/or exotic items. Minor Magical Property, that's basically something that could be a rider effect on another magic item, right? Like, say, Mariner's Armor?
As a mundane item with a price to buy or a magic one?
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2017-03-25, 01:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are the current options for non-metal armor for druids?
My D&D 5th ed. Druid Handbook
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2017-03-25, 02:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are the current options for non-metal armor for druids?
Originally Posted by ProsecutorGodot
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2017-03-25, 02:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-03-25, 02:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are the current options for non-metal armor for druids?
Nobody has mentioned chitin as a material, so there's also chitin.
Also, it's conceivable that some DMs might allow for particularly tough hides to grant higher ACs on armours made from them.
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2017-03-25, 02:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are the current options for non-metal armor for druids?
Yeeeeaaah, but realize that different materials have different properties which can become relevant in certain games. Metal doesn't burn, but wood floats, as a quick example. Also, metal can be Heat Metal'ed, which I sometimes view as one reason Druids don't like to wear it...
The sacred wood thing is interesting. I think I'll use that if you're cool with it?
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2017-03-25, 02:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are the current options for non-metal armor for druids?
Last edited by LudicSavant; 2017-03-25 at 02:52 PM.
Originally Posted by ProsecutorGodot
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2017-03-25, 02:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are the current options for non-metal armor for druids?
I suppose we'll have to see if we encounter any Drow, then. Granted, I'm not quite sure how stripperiffic armor for a lady elf is going to fit our Dragonborn Druid, but I'm sure life will, uh, find a way.
I don't think we've acquired any particularly tough hides, unfortunately.
Unless Hill Giant counts.
Ahh, nice! Thank you.
We even have a set of Mariner's Armor that the DM hasn't defined as what kind of armor it is yet, so that might take care of that.
If not, we can probably just buy some wood-spiked Spiked Armor next time we hit a place to do some shopping, which, given the surprising amount of travel time it's taking us in the flying tower that's acting as our transportation, we'll have to do soon anyway just to refill on food. :V
Ahh. Alas. The only evil cultists we encountered were some surprisingly polite evil wind cultists riding on giant vultures. Then again, they were trying to get a giant wizard to join them and he could have squashed them like bugs if they raised a stink, even without casting a spell or using his griffon-house cats on them.
None of us are particularly good at Deception(beyond our untrained Warlock with +4 Cha), so trying to pull one over on them by falsely joining them and pursuing quest leads from them or finagling an ambush to kill them and take their stuff or to kill and take the stuff of one or more evil wind cultist temples/hideouts probably wouldn't work.
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2017-03-25, 02:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-03-25, 02:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are the current options for non-metal armor for druids?
Yes, I can name some. Cumaru wood for example has a class A fire resistance rating. Here's an example of someone trying to burn down something with a class A rating: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q2EhZrPfF4.
Originally Posted by ProsecutorGodot
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2017-03-25, 03:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-03-25, 03:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are the current options for non-metal armor for druids?
Cumaru wood isn't the only kind of wood that is hard to burn. It was just one example of a durable type of wood (boasting an A rating in fire resistance and a 3540 rating on the Janka hardness scale, which is why we use it for hardwood flooring and the like). That said, I would assume that druids are knowledgeable enough about plants to pick out a kind of wood for their shields that doesn't completely suck. I mean I would expect them to use wooden shields at least as fire-resistant as historical peoples used, and those things didn't all just burst into cinders when they got struck by flaming arrows and pitch.
It addition to choosing a durable type of wood, you can offer the shield various treatments to make it fire retardant, as well as wrap it in leather, hide, or other materials.Last edited by LudicSavant; 2017-03-25 at 03:24 PM.
Originally Posted by ProsecutorGodot
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